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Alarm over radicalisation of Dutch youth ("more dangerous than islamic terrorism")
Expatica ^ | 4 April 2005 | Expatica

Posted on 04/04/2005 12:46:11 PM PDT by Eurotwit

AMSTERDAM — Police have sparked alarm about the speed with which youths are becoming radicalised in the Netherlands, with the Utrecht intelligence service RID claiming it potentially poses a threat more dangerous than Islamic terrorism.

City opts for zero toleration on racism

Police and municipal councils have started investigating 'Lonsdale youths', typified by native Dutch teeangers who wear the Lonsdale clothing brand.

These hardcore youths are responsible for more racist incidents, street disturbances and violence than previously estimated, newspaper NRC reported on Saturday.

The Leiden University and Anne Frank Foundation recorded 106 violent anti-Muslim incidents in the month after the November 2004 murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh by a suspected Islamic militant.

Lonsdale youths were involved in about 25 percent of these cases and new incidents have occurred recently.

An Islamic primary school in Uden was set on fire earlier this month, the second arson attack against the school since Van Gogh's death. A 17-year-old boy has been arrested for the attack.

Researcher J. van Donselaar is still compiling the nation-wide incidents involving Lonsdale youths from recent months, but asserts that the figures show a multiplication on previous statistics.

Donselaar said the number of incidents is worse than initially thought and that the prevalence of such attacks is increasing. There are very few regions in the Netherlands not affected.

Police and youth researchers assert that Lonsdale youths are becoming more of a danger given the fact that society is experiencing a generic shift to the right, propelling the youths to action more quickly.

A police chief in Venlo claims these youths represent a powder keg. But authorities have also raised concerns about immigrant youths seeking out racist Dutch youths. Violent clashes have been reported in Veenendaal and Geldrop recently.

[Copyright Expatica News 2005]


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eurabia; gangs; holland; jihadineurope; netherlands

1 posted on 04/04/2005 12:46:11 PM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: knighthawk

ping


2 posted on 04/04/2005 12:46:36 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

Wow! Maybe the Muslims should take this as their cue to leave!


3 posted on 04/04/2005 12:48:15 PM PDT by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Eurotwit

"Police and municipal councils have started investigating 'Lonsdale youths', typified by native Dutch teeangers who wear the Lonsdale clothing brand."

Sounds like profiling to me.


4 posted on 04/04/2005 12:48:20 PM PDT by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: Eurotwit

Message to the Mooslimbs, you idoits couldn't let your stealth takeover goover well, you had to act like Mooslimbs.


5 posted on 04/04/2005 12:48:29 PM PDT by John Will
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To: Eurotwit
These hardcore youths are responsible for more racist incidents, street disturbances and violence than previously estimated, newspaper NRC reported on Saturday.

Perhaps their daily does of hashish can be upped? That would have a calming effect.

6 posted on 04/04/2005 12:48:56 PM PDT by infocats
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To: Eurotwit
When the government fails to live up to its part of the social contract the governed will take up that slack. How that slack is taken up depends on the situation. The muslims and the Dutch government brought this upon themselves.
7 posted on 04/04/2005 12:50:14 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Eurotwit

The Dutch leaders blindly let in the Islamo-throat cutters for years so as to be multi-cultural, then the populace takes steps to halt the destruction of their culture, and the leaders are alarmed! How's that for leadership?


8 posted on 04/04/2005 12:51:18 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Eurotwit

The Leiden University and Anne Frank Foundation recorded 106 violent anti-Muslim incidents in the month after the November 2004 murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh by a suspected Islamic militant.




The reason for the anti-Muslim incidents doesn't seem to be a mystery to me------the above paragraph says it all.


9 posted on 04/04/2005 12:53:18 PM PDT by Mears ("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
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To: Eurotwit

Wow, defending yourself and fighting back is more dangerous than baring your neck to a pack of rabid dogs. Who would've thought that that would be the Euroweenie assessment of things?


10 posted on 04/04/2005 12:53:31 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Eurotwit
The Leiden University and Anne Frank Foundation recorded 106 violent anti-Muslim incidents in the month after the November 2004 murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh by a suspected Islamic militant.

Oh good grief.

"The lesson of the Holocaust," ladies and gentlemen! "Be nice to moslems!"

11 posted on 04/04/2005 12:56:01 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vayivra' 'Eloqim 'et Ha'Adam betzalmo, betzelem 'Eloqim bara' 'oto; zakhar uneqevah bara' 'otam.)
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To: Eurotwit

1993, the lone punk in our class was a little girl from Belgium. Thought she knew everything, did nothing but mope and criticize everything and everyone. She dressed like a Seattle grunge-bum, in our otherwise preppy little town.

Now imagine a nation full of these dolts. God I hope she moved back to europe...


12 posted on 04/04/2005 12:56:09 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Eurotwit
Lonsdale youths were involved in about 25 percent of these cases

Who was responsible for the other 75%?

13 posted on 04/04/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Eurotwit; sure_fine

"...racist incidents, street disturbances and violence..."

Sure, that's a whole lot worse than suicide car bombs, beheadings, airliners into buildings full of innocents etc etc etc. Wake-up Dutchies!


14 posted on 04/04/2005 1:00:01 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Eurotwit
The brainless Left has absolutely no clue that this scary lurch to the Far Right on the part of Dutch youth is a direct results of the Left's idiotic immigration policies. This is a self-created monster.
15 posted on 04/04/2005 1:13:19 PM PDT by TimeLord (A whale fetus is a whale; a human fetus is a blob.)
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To: Eurotwit

By working to liberalize and embue with Fabian socilism, successive generations since the end of the second world war, the social engineers have created the perfect conditions for the youth to adopt the 21st century version of Nazism.


16 posted on 04/04/2005 1:23:54 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Eurotwit

I'm not sure I understand why this is a problem?


18 posted on 04/04/2005 1:34:44 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Eurotwit

How many of those 'radical right' have set up a bomb?


21 posted on 04/04/2005 2:01:25 PM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

do you mean they interrupted their celebrating of multiculturalism to whine like that?


22 posted on 04/04/2005 2:02:06 PM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Eurotwit
authorities have also raised concerns about immigrant youths seeking out racist Dutch youths

Let me guess ... racist Dutch youth are the only ones in the whole weenie country who have the guts to confront the Islamic cancer. I have read that many Dutch citizens have chosen to flee their own country rather than insist that the Muslims either assimilate or leave.

23 posted on 04/04/2005 2:08:58 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Eurotwit

Nigel Powers: "There are only two things I can't stand in this world: People who are intolerant of other peoples' cultures, and the dutch."
24 posted on 04/04/2005 2:20:44 PM PDT by Thoro (Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
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To: Alouette; knighthawk; GOP_1900AD
The visible "Lonsdale" opponents of the islami-fascists may indeed be neo-nazis and/or skin-heads.

And it sounds like the Anne Frank House may be justifying their status as keeper of the Holocaust house by also counting muslims as "victims"... Are they the ADL of the Netherlands?

And pardon my naivete, but aren't there any politically conservative free-market people in europe who are not neo-nazis (nazism being partially socialist while ostensibly anti-communist...)

It doesn't even seem to be a "simple problem" of the only fighters against communists and islami-fascists being neo-nazis, especially since the American nazis have publicly thrown their support behind the jihadists...

25 posted on 04/04/2005 2:34:03 PM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Eurotwit
I wonder how many anti-Dutch crimes are committed? I'm assuming that those roving rape gangs are actually raping.
From what I can tell the Netherlands doesn't even collect the data for that statistic. Not smart.
26 posted on 04/04/2005 3:46:36 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma
Well..(collecting data on gang rapes)doing so would be anti-multiculturism.
27 posted on 04/04/2005 4:25:50 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Eurotwit
I keep seeing references to "Lonsdale clothing," but I haven't the slightest idea what it is. Can anyone explain?
28 posted on 04/04/2005 5:26:52 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Eurotwit
I keep seeing references to "Lonsdale clothing," but I haven't the slightest idea what it is. Can anyone explain?
29 posted on 04/04/2005 5:29:04 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Malesherbes
Lonsdale is a sporting equipment store based in London. The only part of website that is not under construction is their Japanese website. From what I can tell the only clothing they sell are t-shirts and sport shorts that say "Lonsdale London". I guess it's sorta like wearing Nike clothing here.
30 posted on 04/04/2005 6:11:22 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Malesherbes; lizma

from the blog linked in my previous post:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/02/wlons02.xml

British firm Lonsdale tries to lose Nazi image
By Kate Connolly
(Filed: 02/10/2004)

The British clothing firm Lonsdale is to sponsor gay pride festivals as part of a German campaign to reclaim its logo from neo-Nazis.

Its hooded tops are popular among skinheads because the Lonsdale brand name which is spread across the front includes the letters "NSDA", the first four initials of the German for Hitler's Nazi Party, the NSDAP.


31 posted on 04/04/2005 8:31:55 PM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda
The British clothing firm Lonsdale is to sponsor gay pride festivals

Euw! Why don't they just take "NSDA" off the shirts? Why is it on there in the first place?

G. Gordon Liddy claims a chunk of the SS top guys were gay. Maybe this is an endorsement. Euw, Euw, Euw!

32 posted on 04/04/2005 9:33:16 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma

"Why don't they just take "NSDA" off the shirts? Why is it on there in the first place?"

It's in the letters of what the designers probably thought was a "hip" tradename:

loNSDAle....

otherwise it would be

"lole"


33 posted on 04/04/2005 9:50:03 PM PDT by Yehuda (America: Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: evilthatmendo
sounds like the Dutch version of the Minutemen gathering at our borders.

You give Europeans too much credit. Why engage in rational self defense when you can create a National Front party that will settle a lot of old scores for you.

34 posted on 04/04/2005 10:02:53 PM PDT by Stentor
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