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Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions
NY Times ^ | 4/5/05 | Eduardo Porter

Posted on 04/04/2005 9:27:22 PM PDT by Crackingham

Since illegally crossing the Mexican border into the United States six years ago, Ángel Martínez has done backbreaking work, harvesting asparagus, pruning grapevines and picking the ripe fruit. More recently, he has also washed trucks, often working as much as 70 hours a week, earning $8.50 to $12.75 an hour.

Not surprisingly, Mr. Martínez, 28, has not given much thought to Social Security's long-term financial problems. But Mr. Martínez - who comes from the state of Oaxaca in southern Mexico and hiked for two days through the desert to enter the United States near Tecate, some 20 miles east of Tijuana - contributes more than most Americans to the solvency of the nation's public retirement system.

Last year, Mr. Martínez paid about $2,000 toward Social Security and $450 for Medicare through payroll taxes withheld from his wages. Yet unlike most Americans, who will receive some form of a public pension in retirement and will be eligible for Medicare as soon as they turn 65, Mr. Martínez is not entitled to benefits.

He belongs to a big club. As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.

While it has been evident for years that illegal immigrants pay a variety of taxes, the extent of their contributions to Social Security is striking: the money added up to about 10 percent of last year's surplus - the difference between what the system currently receives in payroll taxes and what it doles out in pension benefits. Moreover, the money paid by illegal workers and their employers is factored into all the Social Security Administration's projections.

Illegal immigration, Marcelo Suárez-Orozco, co-director of immigration studies at New York University, noted sardonically, could provide "the fastest way to shore up the long-term finances of Social Security."

It is impossible to know exactly how many illegal immigrant workers pay taxes. But according to specialists, most of them do. Since 1986, when the Immigration Reform and Control Act set penalties for employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, most such workers have been forced to buy fake ID's to get a job.

Currently available for about $150 on street corners in just about any immigrant neighborhood in California, a typical fake ID package includes a green card and a Social Security card. It provides cover for employers, who, if asked, can plausibly assert that they believe all their workers are legal. It also means that workers must be paid by the book - with payroll tax deductions.

IRCA, as the immigration act is known, did little to deter employers from hiring illegal immigrants or to discourage them from working. But for Social Security's finances, it was a great piece of legislation.

Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it would figure out whom they belonged to.

The file has been mushrooming ever since: $189 billion worth of wages ended up recorded in the suspense file over the 1990's, two and a half times the amount of the 1980's.

In the current decade, the file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year, generating $6 billion to $7 billion in Social Security tax revenue and about $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes.

In 2002 alone, the last year with figures released by the Social Security Administration, nine million W-2's with incorrect Social Security numbers landed in the suspense file, accounting for $56 billion in earnings, or about 1.5 percent of total reported wages.

Social Security officials do not know what fraction of the suspense file corresponds to the earnings of illegal immigrants. But they suspect that the portion is significant.

"Our assumption is that about three-quarters of other-than-legal immigrants pay payroll taxes," said Stephen C. Goss, Social Security's chief actuary, using the agency's term for illegal immigration.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 04/04/2005 9:27:23 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

So, what is your take on this article?


2 posted on 04/04/2005 9:29:52 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: Crackingham

How does this balance out with education, health care and public assistance though?


3 posted on 04/04/2005 9:30:02 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Crackingham

Great system we got going here, ain't it?


4 posted on 04/04/2005 9:31:45 PM PDT by jocon307 (We can try to understand the New York Times effect on man)
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To: Crackingham

In Los Angeles, the money they contribute to Social Security is more than spent in free medical care, free education for their children, and the destruction of the environment. They have clogged our freeways, crowded our hospitals, schools, and prisons. They have been a blight on our culture and way of life.


5 posted on 04/04/2005 9:31:53 PM PDT by Nachum ( "Let everyone get a move on and take some hilltops! Whatever we take, will be ours- Ariel Sharon)
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To: Crackingham
Billions????? the numbers are popcorn rubbish! the COST per dirtball is like $320,000
6 posted on 04/04/2005 9:33:38 PM PDT by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: Crackingham
Pure BS. The vast majority of illegals don't pay into Social Security. The government services the receive, medical and education for their dependents, far outweigh anything they pay in.

In California, illegals cost the state at least 6 billion dollars a year.
7 posted on 04/04/2005 9:33:51 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Free Republic, rooms available due to unexpected cancellations.)
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To: Crackingham

Why is there no mention of the almost daily $20,000 medical-helicopter flights every time one of these idiots trys to outrun lawenforcement?


8 posted on 04/04/2005 9:35:29 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
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To: Crackingham

Completely wrong, false! IF they pay any S.S. taxes, the $ go into the US Treasury. As do all "revenue$".


9 posted on 04/04/2005 9:37:14 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Crackingham
Since its illegal to hire them, many are paid "under the table." That means, no social security, income tax withholding, etc.

Do you know what that means, boys and girls?

I knew you did.

10 posted on 04/04/2005 9:38:42 PM PDT by Coyoteman
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To: socal_parrot

not to mention the vast sums of money taken OUT of our economy and sent SOUTH .....why don't we ever hear about that ?


11 posted on 04/04/2005 9:38:51 PM PDT by kingattax
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To: socal_parrot
The government services the receive, medical and education for their dependents, far outweigh anything they pay in.

Please provide figures please.

Also, currently the federal govt. on a cash accounting basis is providing 1000 dollars per person more in services than taxes collected (300 billion deficit for 300 million people)

12 posted on 04/04/2005 9:38:55 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Crackingham
Illegal immigration, Marcelo Suárez-Orozco, co-director of immigration studies at New York University, noted sardonically, could provide "the fastest way to shore up the long-term finances of Social Security."

I think the same thing could be accomplished using legal immigration, if it were deemed necessary.

13 posted on 04/04/2005 9:42:01 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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Last year, Mr. Martínez paid about $2,000 toward Social Security and $450 for Medicare through payroll taxes withheld from his wages.

So how did the SSA get that? They got it when his employer sent W-2 earnings data to Washington. HINT: Washington knows who hires (as W-2 employees) ILLEGAL aliens.

And, YES Mr. Martínez will get credit for his SS contributions -- if he becomes legal and gets a valid SSN. His contributions are in the Earnings Suspense File. It is not unusual for the SSA to transfer the earning data to a valid SSN once an ILLEGAL becomes legal. Imagine the work load when the millions become "guest workers."

Left out of the NYT's employee's article is the fact that SSA sends out app. 130,000 employer "no match" letters to employers who submit earnings data on ten or more employees. HINT: Washington knows who hires (as W-2 employees) ILLEGAL aliens.

Hint: we don't need another shiny new law for government and business to ignore.

14 posted on 04/04/2005 9:42:18 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: teenyelliott

Here's a quick thought without reading the entire article and just off the cuff. If those jobs were filled by legal workers then the worker would earn the same or more (market dictates) and would therefore pay the same or more into SS than illegals. I got no problem with illegals paying into SS and being unable to receive benefits. Such are the drawbacks to living as a law breaker. Legal immigrants have no o such worries. Now I beetter finish reading the article. Hope I don't turn out looking too foolish.


15 posted on 04/04/2005 9:43:15 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: teenyelliott
I'm sure that these alleged billions are more than offset by all the off the book money that never pays any form of tax.
16 posted on 04/04/2005 9:44:13 PM PDT by CaptainK
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I'm sure that these alleged billions are more than offset by all the off the book money that never pays any form of tax.

And then gets sent right back to Mexico.

17 posted on 04/04/2005 9:46:25 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Crackingham
Every illegal I know is paid in cash; No taxes taken out.

They don't want to become citizens because then their earnings will be taxed just like us.

18 posted on 04/04/2005 9:47:33 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: Crackingham
Where is the mention of the $1000 per month for each "anchor Baby" they receive??
19 posted on 04/04/2005 9:48:02 PM PDT by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: staytrue

There is no way you are going to seriously argue that illegals don't cost the taxpayers money.


I was wrong about the 6 billion dollar figure by the way. It's more like 10.5 billion.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm


20 posted on 04/04/2005 9:48:31 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Free Republic, rooms available due to unexpected cancellations.)
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