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Where were Schiavo's loved ones as eating disorder led to downfall? [Parents killed her]
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | April 6, 2005 | BY S. JENNIFER HUNTER

Posted on 04/06/2005 5:03:58 AM PDT by johnny7

I spent much of last Thursday trying to sort out my feelings about the death of Terri Schiavo. Had I been her mother I would have done my utmost to preserve my daughter's life, just as Mary Schindler did. I would have fought the doctors and the courts and Terri's husband, Michael. I would have railed and screamed and prayed. To watch your precious daughter die by starvation is far more painful than accepting your own mortality: this is a child you have nurtured and played with and shepherded through the turbulence of teenhood and dressed in a wedding gown.

Had I been her husband, Michael, I would have found it equally painful to watch my beautiful wife descend into a form of torpor and to remain in this state for 15 years. Michael has been vilified for starting a relationship with another woman and having children with her. But for the first years of Terri's hospitalization he did his utmost to seek special therapies for her; he bought her comfortable, stylish clothing so she would look her best; he enrolled in nursing school so he could understand the complexities of her medical care. I can't judge him for entering another relationship. He was a young man; he wanted children. Why he didn't divorce Terri, I don't know. Clearly he still felt responsible for her.

The reasons for Terri's death, however, go beyond the removal of a feeding tube and family and court battles. They go beyond medical ethics and religion. Terri suffered from an eating disorder that led to dangerously low potassium levels that led to cardiac arrest. Her brain was not fed with enough oxygen and this led to severe damage to her cerebral cortex, the seat of reason and emotion. She lapsed into a vegetative state. Her brain could make her heart beat but it couldn't make her sensible to her surroundings. Terri had been an overweight teenager, at one point weighing 250 pounds. Didn't her loving parents worry when they saw their daughter shrink to 110 pounds? Didn't her husband notice she ate very little and purged after meals? Did her family or her friends question her extreme eating habits?

It is likely Terri was complimented by how terrific she looked and this would have encouraged her to continue to deprive her body of food. It is true the bloated features in her high school class picture had been transformed; the bulimia had allowed her to become a delicate beauty. She resembled the young Elizabeth Taylor. Her weight loss was validated, at a horrible cost. Terri Schiavo's case, like that of singer Karen Carpenter who died of anorexia, is an excruciating reminder to parents to be vigilant about their children's eating habits -- even if those children are young adults and tell us to mind our own business. We need to persist in helping them. According to the National Eating Disorders Association, "anorexia and bulimia affect nearly 10 million women and 1 million men (primarily teens and young adults)." That is a huge number of our children.

If Terri's parents or her husband or her family doctor had stopped for a moment and wondered about her swanlike transformation, maybe she never would have suffered that cardiac arrest and lapsed into catatonia. But our society admires thinness -- the Rubenesque Marilyn Monroe likely would be considered too plump these days -- and so some of our children, in the quest to look attractive, may starve themselves. Even to their death. That is what Terri Schiavo's story has communicated so clearly.


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“It is likely Terri was complimented by how terrific she looked and this would have encouraged her to continue to deprive her body of food.”

Hey... isn't the author doing a little 'channeling' here? Whoa... this hack should hold out for more money. Ain't often you get a psychic-reporter on the staff!

I guess Anorexia, obesity in childhood killed Terri... at least, that's what they're telling themselves now.

1 posted on 04/06/2005 5:03:59 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7
MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S lies and contradictory testimony in easy to read format


"Even a convicted murderer gets their last meal (and a drink of water) on the same day they die."


2 posted on 04/06/2005 5:06:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER! - "If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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To: johnny7

Interesting that the "loved one" who should have noticed any eating disorder at that stage of Terri's life was her husband, Mikey!


3 posted on 04/06/2005 5:07:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: johnny7
110 lbs? Depending on her body type that may not have been too skinny. Where is the Karen Carpenter type too-skinny photo? This story is a crock and involves the oft-repeated liberal talking points on Terri.
4 posted on 04/06/2005 5:11:12 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances. Human nature is dependably stagnant.)
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To: johnny7



WOW. Making up stories seems to be the norm these days. Everything in there was pure speculation on the part of the author.


5 posted on 04/06/2005 5:12:29 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: johnny7

“*****It is likely***** Terri was complimented by"

Sounds like she was guessing one and two referring to what was LIKELY said before she entered the hospital.

Where does the channeling come in?

"I guess Anorexia, obesity in childhood killed Terri... at least, that's what they're telling themselves now."

It killed Carpenter. Doctors have offered their opinion that she may have been bulimic. Is that not plausible?



6 posted on 04/06/2005 5:12:33 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: johnny7
It is true the bloated features in her high school class picture

I wonder if one of these pictures is on the net somewhere. I have a hard time believing this girl ever weighed 250 pounds. I wonder where the writer got that info --- from Michael?

7 posted on 04/06/2005 5:13:03 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: beyond the sea

Truth bother you? She was boliemic, and cause her own demise as well. Sorry to tarnish the innocent angel image.


8 posted on 04/06/2005 5:16:24 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Even Michael Schiavo has stated that his wife did not have an eating disorder.


9 posted on 04/06/2005 5:21:41 AM PDT by AQGeiger (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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To: Nathan Zachary

The Coven of the Immaculate St. Michael the Pure have spoken.


10 posted on 04/06/2005 5:21:49 AM PDT by Skooz (Host organism for the State parasite)
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To: johnny7

People who are so blatantly ignorant of the facts shouldn't be allowed to write news articles.


11 posted on 04/06/2005 5:22:19 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Failure of the United States government to secure our borders is a BREACH of CONTRACT!!!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Truth bother you?

Truth doesn't bother me, bub.

I had never seen this 250 pound figure before. I saw 200 pounds written in various articles, I wondered where this extra 50 pounds came from.

By the way, you may want to keep your ignorant questions to yourself.

12 posted on 04/06/2005 5:23:16 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Advanced Directive -- don't step on my blue suede shoes.)
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To: beyond the sea

Oh, it will be up to 275 before summer, I am sure.


13 posted on 04/06/2005 5:24:56 AM PDT by Skooz (Host organism for the State parasite)
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To: beyond the sea
Terri had been an overweight teenager, at one point weighing 250 pounds.

Every report I have seen put her weight in high school at perhaps 150. I have never seen this 250 before and, given the level of the rest of the article, I am thinking she is just making it up.

14 posted on 04/06/2005 5:27:11 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: Nathan Zachary
There is NO proof that Terri suffered from bulemia. And the MSM keep using the "fact" that she did as the foundation of a variety of rationales to prove she was not murdered. . . that she was responsible for her own death.

I'm not sure why people can't see through this favorite trick of those who must promote moral relativism and new age sophistry.

15 posted on 04/06/2005 5:27:19 AM PDT by MSSC6644
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To: Skooz
Again with the cheap labor. No self-respecting pimp would expect his girls to work for nothing.

And the MSM will portray her as a gigantic woman who battered poor little Michael (rather than vice versa).

16 posted on 04/06/2005 5:27:37 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Nathan Zachary
and caused her own demise as well.

Whoa! I didn't read that in the papers! Terri yanked out own feeding tube! Which paper was it in?

17 posted on 04/06/2005 5:28:08 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: johnny7

Yo, Jennifer - Your article is a thesis built on a steaming pile of crap. First, her HUSBAND, with whom she was living at the time of her "collapse", was her "close relative" that should have noticed any signs of an eating disorder. Second, you need to demonstrate that it is feasible, plausible, and probable that she was anorexic before blaming her "collapse" on that disorder. Third, you don't even catch a whiff of the irony in your assertion that Terri was starved to death because she was anorexic.

Pathetic.


18 posted on 04/06/2005 5:28:17 AM PDT by MortMan (CON is the opposite of PRO. Is Congress therefore the opposite of progress?)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Michael Schiavo, 1/2000 Direct Testimony: states bulemia was never proved see p 27. (large file)

Michael Schiavo, 1999 Pretrial Deposition: testifies Terri was not strugglying with weight and had healthy appetite see p 15. (large file)

Michael's hired physician, Bambakidis, testified Terri never had heart attack

19 posted on 04/06/2005 5:28:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (You say Barabbas I say Jesus, let's call the whole thing off. (too late now))
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To: johnny7
From the article: It is true the bloated features in her high school class picture had been transformed;

Ms. Hunter is offending people right and left, big and small, old and young as she attempts to spin.

Bottom line: Terri's parents did not kill her.

20 posted on 04/06/2005 5:28:30 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: peyton randolph

Yeah, they will eventually transform her into some sort of 300+ pound behemoth bridezilla who terrorized poor, pure Michael before she fell victim to her own nefarious methods of torment and was eventually consumed by them.

MSM myth is reality for an alarming number of people in this country (even here on FR).


21 posted on 04/06/2005 5:30:13 AM PDT by Skooz (Host organism for the State parasite)
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To: johnny7
If you want to really see these idiots squirm just throw any AIDS victim at them and tell them they deserve to die from the decisions that they made prior.
The left can try and blame this on Terri all they want, but use their same argument against them with their sacred cow AIDS and watch them get all twitchy.
22 posted on 04/06/2005 5:30:31 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for not reading the whole article since 1999)
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To: Nathan Zachary

No, bub, but the truth must bother you. Some of us who've been following the case for years, not days, know the truth. The truth is, this article is pure rubbish.


23 posted on 04/06/2005 5:31:26 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Nathan Zachary
"She was boliemic"

She was attacked -- apparently by Michael whom you support in every single thread.


24 posted on 04/06/2005 5:32:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER! - "If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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To: Nathan Zachary
Truth bother you? She was boliemic, and cause her own demise as well. Sorry to tarnish the innocent angel image.

Truth bother me? Not at all. Let me know if/when you see anything resembling the truth around here. Even her ol' hubby - whose word I imagine you find to be Gospel - testified under oath on more than one occasion - that Terri did not have an eating disorder.

25 posted on 04/06/2005 5:33:11 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: syriacus
George Greer.
Soon starring in the movie
They Starve "Bulimics," Don't They?
Give me your tired, your poor,
your huddled masses
yearning to be starved.
26 posted on 04/06/2005 5:33:32 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: Nathan Zachary
She was boliemic

Proof please

Although I expect crickets from the trolls on this one.

27 posted on 04/06/2005 5:35:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: syriacus
Felos and Greer murdered Terri systematically for the money they received.

How many others have been murdered? How many are being murdered today?

"judge"-Murderer Greer never took the Oath of Office

28 posted on 04/06/2005 5:35:50 AM PDT by Diogenesis (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER! - "If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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To: mtbopfuyn
Some of us who've been following the case for years, not days, know the truth

And more people are learning the truth with each passing day.

29 posted on 04/06/2005 5:36:35 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: johnny7
Oh boy the "Wppptfvbn"- wild turkey opus freepers are not going to like this "wild eyed" speculation and rumor mongering. I expect to see them en force in a few posts demanding this thread be removed. (sarcasm)

There is no proof that Terri had an eating disorder. Why do we not see any photos of a heavy Terri anywhere?

You can bet your patute Michael would have gotten them out in public if he could have.

30 posted on 04/06/2005 5:37:05 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: johnny7

While we are discussing the Schiavo case, yet again. We need to talk about the scumbag, Randall Terry, who ghoulishly exploited the Schindlers to further his own agenda. Randall Terry has a long criminal record in connection with his violent groups, even spending 5 months in Federal prison.

We should also talk about the way that miserable piece of fecal matter, Louis Sheldon (of the TVC) exploited the Schiavo case to further his own fund-raising. Sheldon appears to be running the TVC for the purpos of enriching Louis Sheldon and family, not for a purpose of promoting stronger families.


31 posted on 04/06/2005 5:44:05 AM PDT by punster
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To: MamaTexan; biblewonk
People who are so blatantly ignorant of the facts shouldn't be allowed to write news articles.

  1. The Sun-Times is a tabloid.
  2. What do you expect from a writer who wants to be called "Jennifer"?
  3. Amendment I guarantees the ignorant the right to reveal themselves to the rest of us. I like that a lot.

32 posted on 04/06/2005 5:45:57 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Sorry to tarnish the innocent angel image.

Speaking of Angels.

It was irresponsible of former Sheriff Everett Rice to hire Michael Schiavo as a male nurse for his jail, without even meeting Michael.

Male nurses have been about 6 times more likely to be killers than female nurses.

Male nurses are disproportionately represented among caretakers who harm patients....  the 146,000 male registered nurses represent 5 to 7 percent of all nurses yet are responsible for more than one-third who have killed patients in the U.S. since 1975. 

33 posted on 04/06/2005 5:48:40 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: Abathar
If you want to really see these idiots squirm just throw any AIDS victim at them and tell them they deserve to die from the decisions that they made prior.

Good argument.

34 posted on 04/06/2005 5:50:02 AM PDT by syriacus (Weird George Felos repeatedly flicked his tongue out his gaping mouth when lying to the press 3/31)
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To: newgeezer
What do you expect from a writer who wants to be called "Jennifer"?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA(!)

35 posted on 04/06/2005 5:50:26 AM PDT by biblewonk (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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To: johnny7

If Terri was bulimic, I find it odd that Michael had no idea. My husband's ex-wife was bulimic. He was only 25 when he figured it out and made her go for treatment.


36 posted on 04/06/2005 5:51:11 AM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife (Welcome to the Hotel Free Republic-You can check out any time you like but you can never leave)
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To: Nathan Zachary
A world-renowned forensic pathologist with over 40 years experience as a medical examiner is challenging the official version of early events in the Terri-Schindler Schiavo case, ...

Dr. Michael Baden, co-director of the Investigative Unit of New York State Police in Albany and former chief medical examiner for New York City, ruled out potassium imbalance and a heart attack as factors in Terri's mysterious collapse 13 years ago – which left her severely incapacitated and unable to speak – and pointed to head trauma and bone injuries as a more likely cause.

Baden explained to host Greta van Susteren it was unlikely for a woman of Terri's age at the time to have a potassium imbalance, unless she had certain types of diseases, which she didn't have.


37 posted on 04/06/2005 5:53:49 AM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: johnny7
>> Terri suffered from an eating disorder that led to dangerously low potassium levels that led to cardiac arrest.

How about that, a new disease! What should we call it? How about, "Not-Strangulation Eating Disorder Collapse in the Middle of the Night Cutting off Oxygen to the Brain and Breaking Most of your Bones Because You Spent $80 on a Haircut and your Husband Was Furious Syndrome."

I'm going to start a foundation to help investigate the causes of this dreadful new syndrome that cuts down so many healthy young women in their sleep.

38 posted on 04/06/2005 5:55:46 AM PDT by T'wit (Highlights of Euthanasia Movement: Bergen-Belsen, Lubianka, Treblinka, Gulag Archipelago, Auschwitz.)
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To: syriacus

The 'truth' is something to be obscurred by the MSM... because if known... it would call for their hanging.


39 posted on 04/06/2005 5:55:57 AM PDT by johnny7 (Ever wonder what's the 'crust' in 'Ol Crusty'?)
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To: beyond the sea

I have seen the pictures of her on television and yes she was very overweight. She looked like she was 200 pounds. And I would say this writer has a very valid point. The physical transformation was startling - without a doubt people told her she looked great. Having had an eating disorder myself, I know how addictive and motivating compliments about one's thin appearance can be.


40 posted on 04/06/2005 5:57:12 AM PDT by somerville
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To: Monterrosa-24; johnny7
I don't think 110 pounds for a 5'4" or shorter woman is too little. Does anyone know her height?

I also agree that if she was purging herself that it was the husband who was living intimately close to her and not the parents.

This is another hit piece justification of murdering the woman by the MSM.

41 posted on 04/06/2005 5:57:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

I've interviewed many people who had loved ones who were bulimic. It often takes years and years for them to catch on to the bulimic behavior.


42 posted on 04/06/2005 5:59:07 AM PDT by somerville
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To: johnny7
Blame that victim! Make her responsible for her own murder. She asked for it! Her parents too! /s
43 posted on 04/06/2005 6:00:15 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: johnny7

This will be good for a 200 post pissing contest.


44 posted on 04/06/2005 6:02:18 AM PDT by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
>> She was boliemic,

Rubbish. Even Michael Schiavo denied that she was bulimic. Now what's your theory? And please account for her broken ribs, broken ankles, broken knees, a broken back, a broken femur and major head trauma.

45 posted on 04/06/2005 6:03:41 AM PDT by T'wit (Highlights of Euthanasia Movement: Bergen-Belsen, Lubianka, Treblinka, Gulag Archipelago, Auschwitz.)
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To: MortMan

Most relatives of bulimics don't catch on to the bulimic behavior for years. Bulimics can be pretty crafty about hiding their disorder. I do believe she had some kind of eating disorder.

I do find it ironic that she was starved to death, however.


46 posted on 04/06/2005 6:04:29 AM PDT by somerville
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To: T'wit

I saw Michael on television saying she was bulimic.


47 posted on 04/06/2005 6:04:56 AM PDT by somerville
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To: newgeezer
Amendment I guarantees the ignorant the right to reveal themselves to the rest of us. I like that a lot.

LOL!

I like it too, but I still sometime wish they were required to have 'STUPID' tattooed on their foreheads...

At least the we would be able to see them coming! :)

48 posted on 04/06/2005 6:06:27 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Failure of the United States government to secure our borders is a BREACH of CONTRACT!!!)
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To: somerville
Interviewing seems somewhat hearsay when its about other people.

FReepers look to the pictures and data, themselves.


" 9. Between September 1939 and April 1945 the defendants Karl Brandt, Blome, Brack, and Hoven unlawfully, willfully, and knowingly committed war crimes, as defined by Article II of Control Council Law No. 10, in that they were principals in, accessories to, ordered, abetted, took a consenting part in, and were connected with plans and enterprises involving the execution of the so-called "euthanasia" program of the German Reich in the course of which the defendants herein murdered hundreds of thousands of human beings, including nationals of German-occupied countries. This program involved the systematic and secret execution of the aged, insane, incurably ill, of deformed children, and other persons, by gas, lethal injections, and diverse other means in nursing homes, hospitals, and asylums. Such persons were regarded as "useless eaters" and a burden to the German war machine. The relatives of these victims were informed that they died from natural causes, such as heart failure. German doctors involved in the "euthanasia" program were also sent to Eastern occupied countries to assist in the mass extermination of Jews."

[ Count 2, section 9, of the indictment in "the Doctor's Trial" at the Nuremberg war crimes trial;
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
]


HEALTHFUL DRINKS WITH WARM MEALS EATEN SINCE THE ORDER-TO-MURDER-AN-INVALID BY JUDGE GREER
BEFORE HIS GREER'S and THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM'S Latest VICTIM WAS MURDERED

Scumbag Torturer and Murderer-At-Will, The Imperial Pinellas County Judgenfuhrer Greer ..... 60
............................................................................................ Terri Shiavo 0
............................................................................................ Lee Malvo 55
...................................................................................... Scott Peterson 54

49 posted on 04/06/2005 6:06:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER! - "If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us")
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To: SouthernFreebird

I think we owe this author a few emails , phone calls, etc, to set her straight!! This is just a bunch of bull!!!!!!


50 posted on 04/06/2005 6:07:07 AM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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