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Hillary Meter: Makeover is Working, Only 43% Believe Clinton is Liberal
National Ledger ^ | April 7, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 04/07/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by yoe

Scott Rasmussen has announced that he will begin to track Hillary Clinton's extreme makeover as she attempts to soften her liberal image and move towards the political center. If his latest "Hillary Meter" poll is any indication, Clinton is having success.

The latest numbers according to Rasmussen Reports:

--Currently, 43% of Americans view the former First Lady as politically liberal. That's down from 51% at the end of January.

--At the same time, the number who view Mrs. Clinton as politically moderate has increased from 27% to 34%.

--32% say that if she is the Democratic nominee, they will definitely vote FOR Hillary Clinton.

---37% say that if she is the Democratic nominee, they will definitely vote AGAINST her.

-- 26%) say it depends upon who she runs against.

Rasmussen notes that she still has only a 44% approval rating with 40% disapproval, and more women would vote against her, than for her.

Hillary is re-inventing herself as an anti-abortion, gun loving, military hawk with each passing day. Oh--and expect the God references to flow from Hillary as often as she can work them in. The extreme makeover is in full swing.

This is a brilliant idea by the veteran pollster Scott Rasmussen.


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To: Sam the Sham
A cultural conservative/economic populist could sweep to power easily in 2008

And hillary(or any other democrat, for that matter) is not that person, no matter how much you and the MSM wish it so.

Sheesh you guys and gals in hillary's basement are desparate.

161 posted on 04/08/2005 12:52:45 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Sam the Sham; All

Do you really think that Hillary gives a damn about the border issue? Are you sure she will push the Marriage ammendment? Are you sure that she will slap tariffs on China even though her husband administration was brought and paid for by China? Do you want a Candian Style Healthcare System, more gun control laws, higher taxes, and god knows what else cause she "talks" about the border issue? If so you have no brains...


162 posted on 04/08/2005 12:55:15 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: jveritas

Good post, I have a feeling the people who would turn on hillary would be women.

The other thing is I'm not so sure the Democratic party even wants her to run.. They have other people they can run, like some decent govenors. And they've got Kerry talking of running again..

Then John Edwards.. who I believe will sooner or later become President.. He is very smooth and sharp. Also much more moderate, not so much of an idealist.


163 posted on 04/08/2005 1:04:05 PM PDT by ran15
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To: KevinDavis; Dane; jveritas

Don't be ridiculous.

jveritas' question was about what a GOP candidate was to do, not what I expected any Democrat to do. No Democrat would ever support any sodomite marriage amendment. And there is strong bipartisan support for tariffs on China working its way through the Senate, even as we speak. We have a coalition of Christians appalled at Chinese religious persecution, displaced workers, hawks genuinely concerned about our industrial decline, etc.

And as for national health care, as the baby boom ages it is coming. Period.

Gun control ? The national Democratic party has dumped that completely as an issue.

And borders. Don't you think the American people will choose someone who says the right things over someone who actively wants to do the wrong things ? And there are alot of Dane-style open border types who essentially want to flood the American labor market with third world labor to drive the living standards of non-college educated Americans down to Mexican levels. Don't you think the American people have it figured out that "compassion" is not the least part of their agenda ? Don't you think Americans will choose someone who at least says they want to help over someone who actively wants to hurt them ?


164 posted on 04/08/2005 1:08:31 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (Free trade, open borders globalists will guarantee Hillary's victory)
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To: Sam the Sham

" I think Hillary is smart enough to recognize the shifting consensus away from free trade at all costs globalism."

From her rhetoric she definately has picked up on that. But the powers behind the throne in the Democratic party are as pro-globalist if not more as the Republican party backers.

Having said that she can run on a moderately anti-globalist platform.. and tarriffs for blue collar workers.. then be a globalist when she is elected. No rule about that.


165 posted on 04/08/2005 1:10:11 PM PDT by ran15
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To: Sam the Sham; All
Wrong they have not dropped gun control. In fact they are pushing for the AWB. I'll be damned if we have a national health care baby boom or no baby boom.

I prefer a candidate who walks the walks rather than just "talk" about the issue..

Are you sure you are a conservative???
166 posted on 04/08/2005 1:12:03 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: ran15; All

Talk is cheap.. Also her husband "promised" a middle tax cut and it never happend!


167 posted on 04/08/2005 1:13:11 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: ran15
But the powers behind the throne in the Democratic party are as pro-globalist if not more as the Republican party backers.

Look at the NAFTA vote. The entire Democratic base was against it. It only passed Congress with all Republicans and some New Democrats.

Free trade split both parties along class lines. But now the difference is that white collar professionals have learned that they are every bit as economically vulnerable as auto workers were. Any job that is done in front of a computer terminal can be shipped overseas.

168 posted on 04/08/2005 1:14:49 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (Free trade, open borders globalists will guarantee Hillary's victory)
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To: Sam the Sham

Breaking news: Hillary was not running for President in 1992 and 1996.


169 posted on 04/08/2005 1:15:14 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: Sam the Sham; All

Basically we got to have more regulations on business then??? We got to outlaw progress so people can work forever at a factory?


170 posted on 04/08/2005 1:17:03 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

Exactly if the Republicans were as amoral as the dems, they would just run a candidate who says they are against too much Mexican immigration. Then do nothing on it when elected.


171 posted on 04/08/2005 1:20:04 PM PDT by ran15
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To: KevinDavis; jveritas; kabar; Dane

The baby boom is a reality. And it means national health care as they age, whether you like it or not.

And who in the GOP walks, rather than "talks" about borders ? A lot of people walk, but in the direction of open borders, amnesty, and guest worker programs. Do you see the corporate GOP allowing a nominee who supports real border security or do you see someone Dane-style who talks about "compassionate" guest worker programs that will "only take jobs Americans don't want" ? If that is what the GOP throws up in 2008 and I suspect that it will be, American workers will throw their lot behind anyone who promises to help them against someone who actively wants to reduce them to the Mexican standard of living.


172 posted on 04/08/2005 1:22:09 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (Free trade, open borders globalists will guarantee Hillary's victory)
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To: ran15; All

Thank you for making my point.. It goes both ways for me..


173 posted on 04/08/2005 1:22:32 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Sam the Sham; All

Sorry I don't want to pay for a bunch of old hippies!!!


174 posted on 04/08/2005 1:23:38 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

You're not making sense.


175 posted on 04/08/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by Sam the Sham (Free trade, open borders globalists will guarantee Hillary's victory)
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To: yoe

It doesn't matter. This is Apr., 2005. The polls are meaningless, because NOBODY except for the MSM has even thought about the next election, which is almost 4 years away. This is just an obsession by the media to write about something THEY consider exciting, but nobody else cares, one way or other.

Even if I thought Her Heinous was not a liberal now, it doesn't mean scratch when I seriously consider her as my next president, sometime in 2008. Of course, I couldn't seriously consider her for anything other than a well deserved jail term.


176 posted on 04/08/2005 1:29:52 PM PDT by Zivasmate
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To: Sam the Sham
American workers will throw their lot behind anyone who promises to help them against someone who actively wants to reduce them to the Mexican standard of living.

You obsession with the illegal immigration issue is making you create your own delusional world.

177 posted on 04/08/2005 1:37:00 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: KevinDavis; Sam the Sham; jveritas
Talk is cheap.. Also her husband "promised" a middle tax cut and it never happend

And hillary's "husband" also said he would be tough on China in 92, and then sold them military secrets for campaign contributions.

sammy must think we all must have short memories, like the jack asses he shills for.

178 posted on 04/08/2005 1:38:36 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: jveritas; All

It has gone beyond obsession for some people here. I have a feeling some these people are really trolls trying to divide us..


179 posted on 04/08/2005 1:39:26 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Dane; All

Thank you for reminding me about that..


180 posted on 04/08/2005 1:40:20 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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