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Republicans show political hypocrisy with Schiavo intervention
LP News ^ | 04/06/2005 | LP

Posted on 04/08/2005 5:00:59 PM PDT by libertarianben

Playing to the demands of their Christian-right base, Republicans chose to abandon even the slightest notion that they support states' rights in the case of Terri Schiavo.

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Couldn't say it better.
1 posted on 04/08/2005 5:01:00 PM PDT by libertarianben
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To: libertarianben
Yeah, and the Libertarian Party is no friend to Christians.

The LP has a lot in common with the Democrats in that way. That says a lot.


2 posted on 04/08/2005 5:04:04 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: libertarianben

The US Constitution guarantees certain rights. Among them are the right to life, liberty and the pursuit....

When indididual states are perceived to be violating those rights...the federal government has the right to investigate, legislate, and intervene to certain extents.


3 posted on 04/08/2005 5:04:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: rdb3

Bravo!


4 posted on 04/08/2005 5:05:07 PM PDT by CAluvdubya ("Deep in everybody's soul is the great desire to live in freedom"...George W. Bush 3-11-05)
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To: rdb3
"Republicans didn't support states rights!" It's the argument of a precosious 8th grader.
5 posted on 04/08/2005 5:06:51 PM PDT by zook
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To: libertarianben
Except of course that this wasn't a States Rights issue, it was an issue of Federal Civil Rights being violated.

If, for example, Montana ever decided to unilaterally declare martial law and suspend the Constitution (or just the parts that it didn't like), that would be a federal case, too. The Republicans wouldn't sit back and say, "Yo, that's cool."

TS

6 posted on 04/08/2005 5:07:21 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I teach Environmental Science in high school. Scary, isn't it?)
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To: rdb3

LP News is much like LP Gas... Inflammatory, foul-smelling, and of no use to most of America unless tanked.


7 posted on 04/08/2005 5:09:13 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: libertarianben
If the libertarians will condone judicial tyranny and the horrific murder of an innocent woman, with no due process or authentic opprtunity for appeals, then they are not fit to be taken seriously by anyone, on any issue.

Buh Bye.

8 posted on 04/08/2005 5:09:28 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: libertarianben

Saw your screen name. Read your homepage. Both tell me all I need to know.

BTW, what's a parnet?


9 posted on 04/08/2005 5:10:13 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Fee, Fie, Foe, FReep!)
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To: libertarianben

This cuts it for me. Even though I think of myself as having a libertarial bent, I can't support this juvenile "analysis".


10 posted on 04/08/2005 5:11:01 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: libertarianben

"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

The State of Florida failed to protect Terri's life and the GOP stepped in because it was the RIGHT thing to do. The Federal Court then failed to follow the instructions of Congress to review the facts of the case. What they did was rule on process and even that was flawed as the dissenting opinions clearly state.

The Congress screwed up because they did nothing to force the Court to review the facts as the Court was properly empowered and instructed to do.

If Congress' order was un-Constitutional the Federal Court could've vacated the order as such and made no ruling at all. Instead they accepted the jurisdictional grant and then failed to execute the order they were given jurisdiction to execute.

Finally, when individual rights are violated then state's rights are irrelevant. Every time.


11 posted on 04/08/2005 5:11:31 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: libertarianben
Republicans such as Tom Delay, entrenched with his own ethics issues,...

If you guys want to develop any credibility you need to differentiate yourselves from the Democrats.

12 posted on 04/08/2005 5:12:14 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: libertarianben
Regardless of your or anyone else's opinion - - - - I have just one question:

Was it RIGHT to starve a living Human Being to death?

The answer is NO! and no rational being can say anything different. All retoric aside - - - It was not proper to starve a human being to death. Cease and desist, any other opinion is wrong.

13 posted on 04/08/2005 5:13:49 PM PDT by Freeper (I was culture in the 60's and now with Clinton "running things" I am suddenly Counter-Culture.)
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To: libertarianben
IT is called the US Constitution, an American citizens rights and the rule of law.

That is what the Republicans were protecting.

14 posted on 04/08/2005 5:13:57 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: libertarianben

Republicans support every state's right that is consonant with human rights in general, and the Bill of Rights in particular. It's not only disingenuous; it's positively monstrous to suggest that there is any such thing as a "state's right" to murder, or for that matter, to enslave, its citizens. Given the choice between mindless sophistry and the Rights of Man, commend me to the latter every time.


15 posted on 04/08/2005 5:14:31 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Theresawithanh

"BTW, what's a parnet?"

I believe it is early Aramaic (or was it Swahili?) for:

A confused liberal who mistakes oneself for a conservative.


16 posted on 04/08/2005 5:14:42 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
If the libertarians will condone judicial tyranny and the horrific murder of an innocent woman, with no due process or authentic opprtunity for appeals, then they are not fit to be taken seriously by anyone, on any issue.

Not only that, but I highly suspect that the libertarians are the authors of the current cult of Death, to the extent they've argued that individuals have a property right vested in themselves.

17 posted on 04/08/2005 5:17:31 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: libertarianben

States have the right to kill innocent citizens? Cool! Let the killings begin! And if we can kill them, can't we also enslave them? States rights are awesome!


18 posted on 04/08/2005 5:18:54 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: rdb3; rbmillerjr



Opposing Federal intervention on the Shiavo case in is like opposing Federal intervention during Segregation.


19 posted on 04/08/2005 5:20:21 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second)
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To: zook
""Republicans didn't support states rights!" It's the argument of a precosious 8th grader."

pretty much what they're learning in public schools...

20 posted on 04/08/2005 5:21:00 PM PDT by sageb1
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