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Couldn't say it better.
1 posted on 04/08/2005 5:01:00 PM PDT by libertarianben
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To: libertarianben
Yeah, and the Libertarian Party is no friend to Christians.

The LP has a lot in common with the Democrats in that way. That says a lot.


2 posted on 04/08/2005 5:04:04 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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The US Constitution guarantees certain rights. Among them are the right to life, liberty and the pursuit....

When indididual states are perceived to be violating those rights...the federal government has the right to investigate, legislate, and intervene to certain extents.


3 posted on 04/08/2005 5:04:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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Except of course that this wasn't a States Rights issue, it was an issue of Federal Civil Rights being violated.

If, for example, Montana ever decided to unilaterally declare martial law and suspend the Constitution (or just the parts that it didn't like), that would be a federal case, too. The Republicans wouldn't sit back and say, "Yo, that's cool."

TS

6 posted on 04/08/2005 5:07:21 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I teach Environmental Science in high school. Scary, isn't it?)
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If the libertarians will condone judicial tyranny and the horrific murder of an innocent woman, with no due process or authentic opprtunity for appeals, then they are not fit to be taken seriously by anyone, on any issue.

Buh Bye.

8 posted on 04/08/2005 5:09:28 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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Saw your screen name. Read your homepage. Both tell me all I need to know.

BTW, what's a parnet?


9 posted on 04/08/2005 5:10:13 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Fee, Fie, Foe, FReep!)
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To: libertarianben

This cuts it for me. Even though I think of myself as having a libertarial bent, I can't support this juvenile "analysis".


10 posted on 04/08/2005 5:11:01 PM PDT by John Valentine
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"Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"

The State of Florida failed to protect Terri's life and the GOP stepped in because it was the RIGHT thing to do. The Federal Court then failed to follow the instructions of Congress to review the facts of the case. What they did was rule on process and even that was flawed as the dissenting opinions clearly state.

The Congress screwed up because they did nothing to force the Court to review the facts as the Court was properly empowered and instructed to do.

If Congress' order was un-Constitutional the Federal Court could've vacated the order as such and made no ruling at all. Instead they accepted the jurisdictional grant and then failed to execute the order they were given jurisdiction to execute.

Finally, when individual rights are violated then state's rights are irrelevant. Every time.


11 posted on 04/08/2005 5:11:31 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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Republicans such as Tom Delay, entrenched with his own ethics issues,...

If you guys want to develop any credibility you need to differentiate yourselves from the Democrats.

12 posted on 04/08/2005 5:12:14 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Regardless of your or anyone else's opinion - - - - I have just one question:

Was it RIGHT to starve a living Human Being to death?

The answer is NO! and no rational being can say anything different. All retoric aside - - - It was not proper to starve a human being to death. Cease and desist, any other opinion is wrong.

13 posted on 04/08/2005 5:13:49 PM PDT by Freeper (I was culture in the 60's and now with Clinton "running things" I am suddenly Counter-Culture.)
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IT is called the US Constitution, an American citizens rights and the rule of law.

That is what the Republicans were protecting.

14 posted on 04/08/2005 5:13:57 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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Republicans support every state's right that is consonant with human rights in general, and the Bill of Rights in particular. It's not only disingenuous; it's positively monstrous to suggest that there is any such thing as a "state's right" to murder, or for that matter, to enslave, its citizens. Given the choice between mindless sophistry and the Rights of Man, commend me to the latter every time.


15 posted on 04/08/2005 5:14:31 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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States have the right to kill innocent citizens? Cool! Let the killings begin! And if we can kill them, can't we also enslave them? States rights are awesome!


18 posted on 04/08/2005 5:18:54 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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And we shouldn't have sent the FBI to Mississippi in the Sixties? Killing of civil rights workers was just a states rights issue?


22 posted on 04/08/2005 5:22:58 PM PDT by d2e
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There are a lot of arguments on both sides of this issue, but there is nothing wrong in the Congress & President wanting to have an independent review of the facts in the case, especially when a life was at stake.

It seems to me that a "life issue" trumps states' rights.

An accusations of hypocricy, especially in this case, is lame.


27 posted on 04/08/2005 6:07:33 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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The Schiavo case was about life and death which knows no boundaries. Standing for life is more important than any of the 50 States right to determine who lives or dies.


30 posted on 04/08/2005 6:13:20 PM PDT by sugarbabe
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LP News...about as exciting and factually sound as Dan Rather.


34 posted on 04/08/2005 6:24:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Some Libertarians will show themselves as frauds over this issue.

Without Life, there is no liberty.


35 posted on 04/08/2005 6:43:53 PM PDT by k2blader (If suicide is immoral, then helping it happen, regardless of motivation, is also immoral.)
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To: libertarianben

There's a reason Libertarians get zero votes.


36 posted on 04/08/2005 6:56:18 PM PDT by MikeHu
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Ben,

LIFE IS NOT A STATE govt's OR A FEDERAL govt's ISSUE - IT'S A LIFE ISSUE.

What is it about LIFE that you do not get ..??

And .. if you want hypocrisy - check out the woman (Juliet Yackel - A&E 11pm PT) who worked round the clock to save the LIFE of a CONVICTED KILLER - while she never said a word or lifted a finger to save the life of an innocent disabled woman. You people make me sick.


39 posted on 04/08/2005 7:12:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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"Couldn't say it better."

You think THAT article speaks truth?

LOL!

Yo "LIBERALtarianben" why not just change your party to that of a Demoncrat. You have more in common with them then you care to admit. They too love murdering babies and now the disabled that are NOT terminal.
40 posted on 04/08/2005 7:15:50 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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