Separated at birth?
Posted on 04/09/2005 1:35:15 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Last night, while watching Hannity & Colmes, I resisted the temptation of throwing something at the television set. I’ve heard, consistently, from many conservatives who know him, that Alan is “really a nice guy”. Maybe so. But, his comments continue to be consistently absurd, mindless, immature, idiotic, perplexing and too many other adjectives defining ‘ludicrous’ to list here. One of his Wednesday comments, however, took the proverbial cake.
Engaged in a conversation with Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, regarding Jane Fonda and her new book, the inevitable subject of Fonda’s Viet Nam war atrocities came up in the discussion. Please bear in mind that North not only had first-hand experience in Viet Nam but, knows this war backward, forward, inside and out. North brought up Fonda’s many treasonous actions, during the war and her comments and actions against the US were myriad. One of these that North brought up still has the ability to elicit the strongest of emotions from our Viet Nam veterans. On one of her trips to Viet Nam, where she sided with the enemy Viet Cong against the US and our troops, US prisoners believed they might have some hope…if they could just get messages to Fonda.
Having no idea that Fonda had become a communist-plant, our fathers, sons and husbands managed (at great cost personal to them and the risk of sacrificing their lives if they were caught) to get handwritten messages to Fonda. In their messages, our soldiers begged her to get their information back to the states. They were valiantly trying to get the true story of their imprisonment and torture back to the American people. However, instead of taking the messages home with her, Fonda turned them over to our prisoners’ Viet Cong captors. This resulted in even more severe torture and even death for our troops. Hanoi Jane had accomplished her job well.
Now comes the “kicker”. In response to North’s comments, Colmes (in his inimitable condescending fashion) had the impudence to say: “If we can forgive George Bush for his youthful indiscretions, maybe we can forgive Jane Fonda.” What??? Colmes is comparing Fonda’s treason and her directly causing the torture and death of American citizens to President Bush’s former “youthful indiscretions” with alcohol? Good grief! Does Alan even bother to take his mind with him, when he leaves his home each day? This reflects yet more liberal insanity and a gross lack of mental acumen. At its very best, this comment reflects a badly failing intellect. It is, also, one of the best examples of the way liberals think and, most likely, the reason why they fight against the death penalty for mass murderers yet saw no problem with Terri Schiavo’s forced euthanasia and support the abortion of babies. Most liberals are lunatics who do not appear to possess the ability for rational thought. Colmes’ comment is but another glaring example of their malady. This is, also, another illustration of why they must no longer be elected…to anything. Irrationality and stupidity are not prime qualifications for public office.
Sher Zieve is a Conservative political commentator who firmly believes that if Leftists ran the country (left to their own devices), it would be the end of the United States as a sovereign nation. Email her at: sher_zieve@yahoo.com
I dislike Fonda, but this story is apparently untrue.
I always figured Colmes had something on someone to get where he is. He doesn't even seem self assured or confident.
Very strange.
Alan Colmes is a MORON. I've read his books. I've read essays by him. I've seen him in person at events. I've seen him on tv and heard him on radio. I've spoken with him personally.
I can say first-hand that he DOES NOT LISTEN to people when they speak. He simply hears keywords and reacts to them. My six year-old does a better job at political analysis than Alan Colmes.
He is one of the reasons I don't even watch network television any longer. It's strictly documentaries for me, educational programming. Just the bias in so much of it keeps me irked enough as it is.
Sir, you make a GROSS assumption here......hence your question is unnecessary and unanswerable..........
this'll tick you off.
Why Fox won't get some intelligent hosts (Oliver North would be a great replacement for Hannity, and a tree branch would fill in nicely for Colmes) is beyond me!
moroning = moronic
It never fails to amaze me how Alan can find "the other side" to take in any story, no matter how universally horrible it might be---
When Jessica Lundsford's murderer was found, I know he had a "liberal take" on it and I just turned off the channel. I am sorry that I can't remember what exactly he said, but it was pure Alan.
Okay, so we are to believe snopes that the story really didn't happen? Who are we to believe---do we think that Ollie would perpetuate a lie, if he knew it was one?
Sadly, what Holmes voiced is shared by many Americans. They simply do not have any idea as what Hanoi Jane, big John Kerry, and other anti-war protesters got away with. And many people do not realize that the young Bush, a fighter jet pilot just followed what was expected by the Airforce, and of course mimicked by the Air National Guard.....that is fast driving, chasing women, and boozing it up. It was an embedded part of their daily routine. He simply went along with what was the acceptable and often desired behavior.
Of course some worm like Holmes cannot visualize how fighter pilots behaved. He probably is afraid to jump of the second step in his house, he could bust a knee or something.
I think your summary is pretty good, I've listened to his radio show and certainly if it's a political subject he seems to just purely react to buzz words.
Last night he was interviewing the minutemen guys in Arizona and showed no real comprehension of the world outside NY City and used the actions of a couple of hangers-on to tar and feather the whole group.
A token dimwit to round out the agenda.
only a psychotic rhesus monkey can't see that this is the leftists ONLY REASON for metabolizing.
Separated at birth?
I think they make a great team. Hannity constantly cranks out and markets new books and Colmes is right there to color them in....
The network needed a liberal, one who would allow himsefl to be ridden rough-shod by Sean Hannity.
Combs fit the bill -- liberal, no conviction, no backbone, thinks it's all a big joke, barely does his homework.
Your basic pimp.
Personally, I'll take an irrational inane liberal like Colmes anyday over a polished careful one like Clinton. Colmes just makes the liberal talking points all the more transparent to the average viewer.
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and, doggonit, people like me!"
Colmes is NOT a "nice guy"; he's a lowlife liberal, hate-America socialist. Hannity's nuts when he says he's a "nice guy". He's a Klintoon, Gore and a Kerry lover = loser. I change the channel when he's on TV. Hannity's just a GOP parrot. Fox TV will soon be on my 'do not watch list'.
Snopes is not always 100% right. One of our local L.A. talk show hosts (Al Rantel on KABC 790) mentioned the story concerning the notes handed by some of our POWs to Fonda, and how she turned them over to her communist hosts. The show was last Thursday. Within less than 5 minutes, Al Rantel had a caller who confirmed that the story is indeed true. The caller should know. He was one of the men lined up as Madame Fonda made her official "review" of the American men being held and tortured by the N. Vietnamese.
The next caller was a N.Vietnamese man, whose family managed to escape from there and come to America after the war. This caller also verified the story. He said that his father was connected with the N.Vietnamese military and that it was a well known fact that Fonda had taken the American POWs' written pleas for help, and given them to the enemy.
BTW you can debunk her anti war statements nor her picture on that zsu-23 anti aircraft weapon.
Much as you can't debunk the picture of the Viet namnese general killing a terrorist legally with his ,38.
live with it.
Combs fit the bill -- liberal, no conviction, no backbone, thinks it's all a big joke, barely does his homework.
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But this makes for a VERY dull show. A good liberal against Hannity would make very interesting television.Hannity needs someone he can get his teeth into and Colmes isn't that person!
Personally, I think much of "Hannity and Colmes" is staged, and that Alan Colmes' "reactions" are scripted. However, it is telling that he is called on to mouth exactly the words one would expect from an unrepentant liberal: the duplicity, the hypocrisy, the eye blind to its own faults, and worst of all, the complete lack of common sense. The absurd comparison of Bush's toga party days and Jane Fonda's treason is just one such example, whether she actually turned over any crib notes to the VC or not.
Personally I dont care if that particular story is true or not, She wnet to Hanoi , she had her picture taken at an anti-aircraft battery and stated she wished she had a chance to shoot at Americans, I only hope I can putlive her and get to her gravesite, where I intend to empty my bladder on her headstone.
"Why Fox won't get some intelligent hosts (Oliver North would be a great replacement for Hannity, and a tree branch would fill in nicely for Colmes) is beyond me!"
A bonzai would look better on the set.
"this'll tick you off."
Yes it does, along with the "Move On" FReepers
Uphold the US Constituion!
Too bad the "Move On" FReepers just don't understand
the real threat that the likes of Hanoi Kerry pose to our country.
I just don't understand their reasoning in saying
"drop it", "your wasting your time", "give it up" etc.
Some even howl when I remind them the job is NOT done.
Kerry E-Mail Concerning Judicial Nominees
April 1, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375683/posts
Veterans Group Calls on Congress
to Impeach George W. Bush and Richard Cheney
April 3, 2005
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376873/posts
Well I have news for them.
I've been posting threads
on the Viet Nam anti war "crowd"
almost from day one on FR.
Wicked Witch of the West: Hanoi Jane Exposed in New Book
Hanoijane.net ^ | HENRY MARK HOLZER and ERIKA HOLZER,PhilDragoo
Posted on 10/30/2001 10:05:08 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/560260/posts
So why do they think I'll stop now?
Don't be like the Silent Majority in the 60's and 70's
Demand Kerry be ousted from the US Senate!
There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate
He is there illegally!
WAKEUP AMERICA!
For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.
Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen
Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html
And the FBI has proof of his treason.
Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files
May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.
(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)
http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html
a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS
Contact the GOP controlled US Senate!
Distribute these url's!
Links to Anti Kerry sites
212 LINKS
News reports,
Viper's Vietnam Veterans Page
http://members.aol.com/ga1449ga/links/links.html
EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!
MUST SEE WEBSITE!!!!
http://www.kerrystreason.com/index.html
Full details on these url's!
http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html
There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.
http://stophanoikerry.150m.com
Did you see this...?
(The 'Kerry's Promise Counter')
http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=6628
Polipundit even tells you how to install it on your own page!
This is the website of NAM POW, probably the best source of definitive info about Vn POW's, since you must be one to be a member. Scroll down the home page, and you will find the e-mail addresses of the current officers of NAM POW, including Paul Galanti.
http://www.nampows.org/
Here is a newsgroup discussion of this "notes" thing that contains some responses from POW's.....
http://www.samsloan.com/janespam.htm
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disclaimer--I am not defending hanoi jane....I enjoy the fact that she is denigrated every day of her miserable life for the actions she so willingly took against the USA and us.
I say good riddance to both.
Any relation to artist Henrietta Dunn Mears?
I'm still trying to figure out what a woman is doing writing a feature column in Men's News Daily.
Kinda like going down to the YMCA and seeing the workout room flooded with fat women.
At least this woman has a redeeming side (her point of view) which is more than I can say for those larda$$e$ at the YMCA, that appear to have no redeeming angles whatsoever.
If Colmes was faking his nasty, hateful attitude toward Oliver North, he has missed his calling, he's a born actor.
I found him offensive before, but after tuning in for a few minutes and watching that particular Colmes performance, I will never allow that offensive t*rd on my tv screen again.
I quit watching the show because of him.
And .. I don't believe another liberal would help - they all think like Alan does. They get their talking points and they cannot venture out into the real world.
Hubby served time in VietNam...he talks about the
treasonous acts of JFonda at times...she should have been
charged...gone to trial...convicted and faced punishment.
He talks of the incident with POW notes given back to their
captors...
Wish some of the POWs' would file a lawsuit for damages---any good lawyers out there...help them.
As to AColmes...don't watch show that often....but when
he smiles...he reminds me of the Joker from the ol' Batman
series....typical liberal rant he espouses.
I know! I know! NO!
Very funny image! You're right. He does look like the old Joker in Batman! Good point, Mrs. Tn!
Char :)
bump!
Relax ladies and gentlemen...Colmes IS an idiot and it's obvious for all to see -- that is the beauty part of him being on the show...he is the best the libs have to offer..so consequently anyone can see how shallow, juvenile, irrational and downright stupid the liberals have become. When Hannity goes on and on about keeping the current Democrat spokespeople in place and how when they open their mouths it just helps the Republican cause (Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Dean and others - you know he's adding (without saying it of course) Alan Colmes to the group...When they talk the stupidity shines brightly for all to see and it just helps the conservative cause.
So do as I do, laugh at him - he's very difficult to take seriously anyway as he just spouts the party line - and not with intelligent, cogent arguements.
The trouble is that he takes himself seriously. . . . thinks he's the brightest bulb on the TV set. No one would sit there 5 nights a week before millions of viewers, as he does, if he had a realistic concept of himself.
......and I agree with Stan_25 that Nancy Skinner and Bob Beckel should be handed their termination pink slips. There is also one other liberal female who has been on Fox cable lately. She should join the "marching out the door" group. Ditto Katrina vanden Heuvel (Editor of The Nation). I need a brown paper bag whenever she's on.
she is dead to me.
THEN, North is duped or is speading agitprop.? .
So its not just for the money, and a job in the limelight.?.
Colmes head is so far up his rear end he hasn't had a breath of fresh air since the Dr. spanked him ...
Oh, I don't doubt for an instant that the disdain was real. But Colmes had to know for days that Ollie would be a guest, so he had plenty of time to prepare his umbrage. Heck, I wouldn't doubt that he and Hannity get together and rehearse their "exchanges," if not down to the detail, at least at the conceptual level.
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