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An anti-immigrant group was asked to leave a Washington Township diner
Windsor-Hights Herald ^ | 04/08/2005 | Marisa Maldonado

Posted on 04/09/2005 4:48:36 PM PDT by Afronaut

Edited on 04/09/2005 5:00:43 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

   HIGHTSTOWN — A group known for fighting against illegal immigrants was asked to leave a Washington Township diner while a Hispanic civil rights conference took place in the borough on Sunday, Washington police said.

   The New Jersey Division of Civil Rights and the Mercer County Hispanic Association sponsored a civil rights conference for Hispanics on Sunday at St. Anthony of Padua Church. The meeting came in the wake of a series of raids for illegal immigrants in the area by the federal Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

   Hightstown Mayor Robert Patten said he found out about the meeting of the United Patriots of America through a friend in Freehold on Sunday. He then notified the Hightstown Police Department because he saw it as his duty to inform them about any potential problems, he said.

   "I didn't really know anything at all (about the Patriots), other than they were doing some protest about immigration," the mayor said.
   Chief James Eufemia said he had received information from the Freehold Police Department that the group was planning to meet at a neighboring diner. He then notified the Washington police.

   "We had no other information," he said. Chief Eufemia was unavailable for further comment.
   Ron Bass, president of the United Patriots of America, said his group initially wanted to meet in Freehold to discuss projects related to guarding the border between the United States and Mexico as well as the formation of a New Jersey immigration group. But the owner of the hall in Freehold asked them not to meet there when picketers threatened to protest the event.

   The group then rescheduled for the USA Country Diner on Route 130 in Washington Township, but Mr. Bass speculated that the protesters found out about the event through the Internet.

   "When we arranged the space with the gentleman, I had told them there could be some problems," Mr. Bass said. "I didn't want the man to be surprised."

   He said he does not remember if he told the man the purpose of his group — the organization's Web site describes its purpose as fighting to preserve American values and the Constitution through fighting illegal immigration.
   At 3:07 p.m. four Washington police officers arrived at the scene to find picketers holding signs such as "Immigrants are allowed here," said Detective Vince Estelle of the Washington police. The police asked both the picketers and the United Patriots, who were described by Detective Estelle as a group that does not want to allow immigrants into the country, to leave, he said.

   Both groups complied.

   Mr. Bass said the only sign he saw said, "Human Beings are not Illegal."

   "Human beings can't be illegal, but they can do illegal things and break the law," he said.

   Mr. Bass said there were "two handfuls" of Patriots attempting to gather. Police could not say how many protestors were assembled outside the diner.

   The Minuteman project, which puts members on patrol throughout the border between the United States and Mexico to report undocumented migrants and smugglers, has seen some recent controversy. According to published reports, three Minutemen now are under investigation for reportedly restraining a 26-year-old Mexican man on the border.

   The Minutemen, however, said all they did was wave over the man and offer him food and water.
   Although Mr. Bass said he sympathized with diner's decision to ask the group to leave, he said there was no reason to do so.

   "I guess it would matter if we said we were the American Communist Party," he said. "They may not be comfortable with communists, but I don't know why anyone would be uncomfortable with patriots."

   The general manager of the USA Country Diner, who did not give his name, said the whole event was a "misunderstanding."

   "If people want to have their meetings, they don't have their meeting there," he said Wednesday at the USA Diner Restaurant in East Windsor. He then walked away and refused to comment further.
   Torry Watkins, a resident of Hightstown, said he was concerned that borough officials had violated the United Patriots' civil rights by becoming involved.

   "Even vigilantes have First Amendment rights," said Torry Watkins, a Hightstown resident, at Monday's Borough Council meeting.

   But Mr. Watkins relented in his argument after Mayor Patten assured him that that had not been the case.

   "I appreciate your confidence in me that I will fight for everybody's rights," he said.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: aliens; diner; hispanic; illegalimmigration; immigrantrights; immigration; immigrationlist; newjersey; nj; washingtontownship
Nothing makes Sense any more.
1 posted on 04/09/2005 4:48:37 PM PDT by Afronaut
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2 posted on 04/09/2005 4:50:36 PM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: Afronaut

"Hightstown Mayor Robert Patten"

Just for reference, can somebody post this Mayor's full Oath of Office here?

Always good to refer to an official's legal job description before passing judgment....


3 posted on 04/09/2005 4:53:33 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Afronaut
The nerve of The United Patriots of America. Do they think they live in a free country or something?

Back of the bus, you.

4 posted on 04/09/2005 4:54:01 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Afronaut

Please include original titles.
Thanks.


5 posted on 04/09/2005 4:56:05 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Afronaut

bump


6 posted on 04/09/2005 4:56:11 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Afronaut
Illegal aliens have NOTHING to do with Mexican Americans and Latinos. These groups don't give a d@mn about the Hispanic community, just forwarding the socialist/Demonseptic cause of using race politics to Balkanize and weaken America and allowing terrorists and drug dealers in to "punish the red staters."

A true Hispanic Advocacy group would oppose the aliens because aliens make Hispanics look bad and they take away jobs from latinos. Any Hispanic or Immigrant Advocacy group that doesn't take up the cause of illegal immigration are nothing more than the race pimp arm of the DNC, they don't care at all for the well being of foreigners and Hispanics in America.
7 posted on 04/09/2005 4:57:42 PM PDT by Killborn (Liberals. The greatest threat to mankind, morality, civilization, cute puppies and fuzzy bunnies.)
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To: Afronaut

I guess the assault on our culture by these border criminals is OK but to say something in the behalf of those born By Americans is not..This has got to change!


8 posted on 04/09/2005 5:00:28 PM PDT by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: Afronaut

From the article: "...who were described by Detective Estelle as a group that does not want to allow immigrants into the country, to leave, he said."

Uh, ILLEGAL immigrants. Whatever.


9 posted on 04/09/2005 5:00:29 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Terrorism has less to do with economic poverty than with political poverty." - Jane Novak)
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To: Afronaut
[the rest...]

Chief James Eufemia said he had received information from the Freehold Police Department that the group was planning to meet at a neighboring diner. He then notified the Washington police.
   "We had no other information," he said. Chief Eufemia was unavailable for further comment.
   Ron Bass, president of the United Patriots of America, said his group initially wanted to meet in Freehold to discuss projects related to guarding the border between the United States and Mexico as well as the formation of a New Jersey immigration group. But the owner of the hall in Freehold asked them not to meet there when picketers threatened to protest the event.
   The group then rescheduled for the USA Country Diner on Route 130 in Washington Township, but Mr. Bass speculated that the protesters found out about the event through the Internet.
   "When we arranged the space with the gentleman, I had told them there could be some problems," Mr. Bass said. "I didn't want the man to be surprised."
   He said he does not remember if he told the man the purpose of his group — the organization's Web site describes its purpose as fighting to preserve American values and the Constitution through fighting illegal immigration.
   At 3:07 p.m. four Washington police officers arrived at the scene to find picketers holding signs such as "Immigrants are allowed here," said Detective Vince Estelle of the Washington police. The police asked both the picketers and the United Patriots, who were described by Detective Estelle as a group that does not want to allow immigrants into the country, to leave, he said.
   Both groups complied.
   Mr. Bass said the only sign he saw said, "Human Beings are not Illegal."
   "Human beings can't be illegal, but they can do illegal things and break the law," he said.
   Mr. Bass said there were "two handfuls" of Patriots attempting to gather. Police could not say how many protestors were assembled outside the diner.
   The Minuteman project, which puts members on patrol throughout the border between the United States and Mexico to report undocumented migrants and smugglers, has seen some recent controversy. According to published reports, three Minutemen now are under investigation for reportedly restraining a 26-year-old Mexican man on the border.
   The Minutemen, however, said all they did was wave over the man and offer him food and water.
   Although Mr. Bass said he sympathized with diner's decision to ask the group to leave, he said there was no reason to do so.
   "I guess it would matter if we said we were the American Communist Party," he said. "They may not be comfortable with communists, but I don't know why anyone would be uncomfortable with patriots."
   The general manager of the USA Country Diner, who did not give his name, said the whole event was a "misunderstanding."
   "If people want to have their meetings, they don't have their meeting there," he said Wednesday at the USA Diner Restaurant in East Windsor. He then walked away and refused to comment further.
   Torry Watkins, a resident of Hightstown, said he was concerned that borough officials had violated the United Patriots' civil rights by becoming involved.
   "Even vigilantes have First Amendment rights," said Torry Watkins, a Hightstown resident, at Monday's Borough Council meeting.
   But Mr. Watkins relented in his argument after Mayor Patten assured him that that had not been the case.
   "I appreciate your confidence in me that I will fight for everybody's rights," he said.

10 posted on 04/09/2005 5:02:43 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: Afronaut
Are they going to start making people fill out questionnaires before they go into diners in NJ?

"Sorry, folks, you can't eat here right now. According to this form you filled out, you are pro-life and there's already a pro-choice couple eating here. We don't want no trouble, you understand. Come back soon."

11 posted on 04/09/2005 5:05:09 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Afronaut
USA Diner Restaurant (Formally Mediterranean Diner) (0 reviews)         609.443.8222
Diner
431 US Highway 130 (Dutch Neck Road)   
12 posted on 04/09/2005 5:09:09 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: Afronaut
"The New Jersey Division of Civil Rights and the Mercer County Hispanic Association sponsored a civil rights conference for Hispanics on Sunday at St. Anthony of Padua Church. The meeting came in the wake of a series of raids for illegal immigrants in the area by the federal Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement."

Sound like state government & NGO colluding against ICE.
13 posted on 04/09/2005 5:11:39 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: torchthemummy
The Minuteman project, which puts members on patrol throughout the border between the United States and Mexico to report undocumented migrants and smugglers, has seen some recent controversy.

That statement alone nullified any credibility the alleged author ever had!

Throughout the border? NO it is only 23 miles of the border.

undocumented migrants? They ceased being migrants, when they left their country of origin then became Illegal immigrants when they illegally crossed the border into our country.

15 posted on 04/09/2005 5:23:46 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Afronaut

Wasn't there a line somewhere about the right to peaceably assemble? Maybe I'm imagining things.


16 posted on 04/09/2005 5:25:47 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
From the article: "They may not be comfortable with communists . . ."

Oh?

17 posted on 04/09/2005 5:34:22 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Texas Eagle

We are told you are not tolerant...
Now get the **** OUT!

--Travis--


18 posted on 04/09/2005 5:44:43 PM PDT by TravisABQ
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To: Afronaut
Nothing like a little biased reporting.

Headline: An anti-immigrant group was asked to leave a Washington Township diner

First paragraph: A group known for fighting against illegal immigrants was asked to leave a Washington Township diner...

19 posted on 04/09/2005 5:51:38 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Admin Moderator

Any other changes? This is not what I posted.


20 posted on 04/09/2005 6:19:25 PM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: Afronaut

More Americans losing their rights to illegal aliens. Take note.


21 posted on 04/09/2005 6:21:32 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Afronaut
"The Minuteman project, which puts members on patrol throughout the border between the United States and Mexico to report undocumented migrants and smugglers, has seen some recent controversy. According to published reports, three Minutemen now are under investigation for reportedly restraining a 26-year-old Mexican man on the border."

I read the story about the 26yo the other day in the press and from what I remember the minutemen involved were cleared as far as the "restraining" charge was concerned. From what I remember they gave food and water to the man...

Nothing like stirring up feelings with mis-information! This journalist needs to learn better research skills!
22 posted on 04/09/2005 6:22:01 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Afronaut

When the moderator says "include original title", that doesn't mean that YOU should make up your own original title. It means that your thread title should include the same title which was used by the source which published the story. That's so when the story is searched by somebody else who is thinking of posting it, they will see that it has already been posted. This reduces duplicate posts.

Regards,
LH


23 posted on 04/09/2005 6:33:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks, But I knew that. I posted the original Title, in the Title field. And added a comment over the article in the Body. I also did not post the full article, the MOD did. Guess they were just helping.


24 posted on 04/09/2005 6:46:02 PM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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To: Afronaut
Banks' mortgage plan opens door to homeownership for illegal immigrants

25 posted on 04/09/2005 6:49:52 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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To: The Grammar Police
You said, The police didn't ask the group to leave, the owner of the diner did.

The article says, At 3:07 p.m. four Washington police officers arrived at the scene to find picketers holding signs such as "Immigrants are allowed here," said Detective Vince Estelle of the Washington police. The police asked both the picketers and the United Patriots, who were described by Detective Estelle as a group that does not want to allow immigrants into the country, to leave, he said.

It doesn't matter if the police asked both groups to leave on their own, or if the diner owner asked the police to tell them all to leave. The Hispanic protestors succeeded in their efforts to roust the United Patriots meeting out of the area.

26 posted on 04/09/2005 6:52:19 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Afronaut

Where's the ACLU on this one? If it was the United Communists of America, the ACLU would be screaming and whining about their right to assemble!


27 posted on 04/09/2005 6:53:22 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Peace on earth! After major whup-a$$)
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To: Afronaut

I just love the way they muddy the waters by equating "anti-illegal" with "anti-immigration."


28 posted on 04/09/2005 7:06:51 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: sweetliberty
Let them know : Marisa Maldonado

mmaldonado@pacpub.com

mmoffa@pacpub.com

29 posted on 04/09/2005 7:18:59 PM PDT by Afronaut (Press two for English.)
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