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Republicans Plan To End Cherished Political Tradition Of The Filibuster
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 4-10-2005 | Philip Sherwell

Posted on 04/09/2005 9:12:17 PM PDT by blam

Republicans plan to end cherished political tradition of the filibuster

By Philip Sherwell in Washington
(Filed: 10/04/2005)

Republican Senate leaders are planning to curb the cherished American political tradition of the filibuster in an effort to prevent the minority Democrats from using the tactic to block the appointment of conservative judges.

The furore over the case of Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged Florida woman who died last month after state and federal courts refused appeals from her parents for her feeding tube to be reinstalled, has given fresh momentum to the campaign by powerful Republicans to challenge the judiciary.

The showdown over the filibuster - a two-centuries-old Senate rule that in effect allows just 41 of the 100 members to obstruct legislation and nominations by talking for as long as they can - is developing into the biggest political clash of President George W. Bush's second term.

Democrats have condemned what has widely been described as the "nuclear option" of rewriting the rules on filibustering and are threatening to retaliate by bringing Senate business to a standstill through a series of other delaying procedures.

Used alongside other tactics such as inviting questions while holding the floor, the filibuster has long been a potent weapon of obstruction in US legislative battles. The right of senators to unlimited debating time dates to the second Congress in 1791. The name filibuster originally referred to the French term for buccaneers in the Caribbean.

The longest filibuster was staged by Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, who held forth for 24 hours and 18 minutes in an unsuccessful attempt to block the 1957 Civil Rights Act, only surrendering the floor after his doctor warned him that he risked imminent kidney failure.

Under the rules filibusters must remain standing, cannot lean on the podium or take toilet breaks. Prior to his record-breaking filibuster, Mr Thurmond dehydrated himself in a sauna to delay the call of nature. Filibusters can also choose to "tag-team", speaking as long as possible before yielding the floor to a colleague.

There is no need for a filibustering speech to bear any relevance to the issue the Senate is supposed to be discussing. In the 1930s Senator Huey Long of Louisiana famously used to extol the virtues of fried oysters and recite Shakespeare while opposing legislation that he claimed favoured the rich over the poor.

Among Americans, perhaps the best-known filibuster was the fictional 23-hour speech in Mr Smith Goes to Washington in which the young Senator Jefferson Smith, played by James Stewart, takes on his corrupt and powerful peers.

The filibuster now looms as a potential weapon in the confrontation between conservatives and liberals over President Bush's judicial nominations, which are seen as the key political battleground in what both sides refer to as America's "culture wars".

The immediate conflict is over nominations to federal appeals courts - 10 of the 52 names that Mr Bush put forward during his first term were blocked by filibusters or the threat of one.

The President has resubmitted seven of the rejected 10 to Congress in a signal that he is not willing to compromise on his choices. Democrats claim that the nominees are radical conservatives determined to impose their social agenda on issues such as abortion and gay marriage. Supporters of the nominees say they are well-qualified justices who oppose the sort of so-called judicial "activism" that allowed the courts to establish abortion rights in the first place.

The stakes, however, are expected to escalate because up to three of the nine Supreme Court justices are expected to be replaced during Mr Bush's second four-year term. The separation of powers between the executive, legislature and judiciary gives senior judges considerable clout, meaning that appointments are often hotly contested.

The rules governing the use of the filibuster are complex. Republicans control 55 of the 100 Senate seats, enough for the straight majority required to approve Mr Bush's judicial nominees if they are able to reach a vote.

A filibustering operation can prevent the vote going ahead, however, unless a separate majority of 60 out of the 100 senators votes that the filibuster should not be allowed.

Unable to muster the required figure of 60, Republicans now want to scrap the filibuster option by amending the Senate rules. Plans to do so have been drawn up by Senator Bill Frist, the Republican majority leader expected to run for his party's presidential nomination in 2008.

Conservative and liberal pressure groups have brought their money and power to the opposing sides. On the right, delivering a new tranche of conservative judges is seen as payback to conservative lobbyists for their success in turning out voters for Mr Bush and Republican senators last November.

The poisonous mood in Washington deepened last week when Tom DeLay, the Republican leader in the House of Representatives, the lower chamber, accused federal courts of "running amok" in a speech to a conference entitled Confronting the Judicial War on Faith. Mr DeLay, who has led the condemnation of the courts over the Terri Schiavo case, added: "Judicial independence does not equal judicial supremacy."

The pro-Democrat grouping, People for the American Way, has countered with a series of prime-time television commercials defending the role of the filibuster as an important part of the system of checks and balances that America's founders created to rein in the power of the majority party.

After the Republican attacks on the courts over the Schiavo case, the Democrat minority says it is defending the judiciary against political interference and intimidation. "If they don't get what they want, they attack whoever is around," said Senator Harry Reid, the leader of the Democrat minority. "Now they're after the courts. I think it goes back to this arrogance of power."

The rancour over nominations on Capitol Hill goes beyond new justices. Democrats plan to mount a strong challenge tomorrow when confirmation hearings begin for John Bolton, the hawkish number three at the State Department whom Mr Bush wants to be the next ambassador at the United Nations.


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To: Lancey Howard
Rehnquist is likely to be replaced and maybe O'Conner

The third would be Ginsberg, who, IIRC has health problems.

And I have a funny feeling that the scumbags will not leave the Court until there's a scumbag President to appoint their replacements.

They might try, but ill health or a natural death can force the issue.

21 posted on 04/09/2005 9:39:23 PM PDT by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: lawdude

It's a "cherished tradition" that Sheets himself helped to change. It used to be 67 votes.


22 posted on 04/09/2005 9:41:43 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You are a wise man." -- Torie; "You rock!" -- TonyRo76)
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To: Amaury

We've never tried to block judicial appointments with only 41 votes before. Lots of Bill Clinton's judicial appointments were approved. I don't know why we would care very much if the filibuster was taken away for those. It's not doing us any good being there.


23 posted on 04/09/2005 9:43:05 PM PDT by mhx
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To: blam


24 posted on 04/09/2005 9:46:58 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Viking2002
Liberals raped the filibuster like a Scottish farmer at the hindquarters of a Highland sheep.

You forgot the part about doing it at the edge of a cliff.

25 posted on 04/09/2005 9:47:25 PM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: blam

When was the 'moving' filibuster, invented?
By that, I mean the idea that any one item could
be stopped, but other business could continue?

If the Dems want to filibuster, make them
do it the old way, by talking, like in the movie
'Mister Smith goes to Washington'.


26 posted on 04/09/2005 9:47:36 PM PDT by greasepaint
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To: blam

The MSM will not tolerate this. Even if Democrats do close down the Senate, the MSM will still present Republicans as angry, Evangelical, right-wingers who are "breaking tradition" and being "partisan."
Prepare for a major fight. Not just with Democrats, but with the MSM.


27 posted on 04/09/2005 9:49:42 PM PDT by mowkeka
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To: Blurblogger
I cherish the filibuster.

I couldn't sleep last night... lying awake in bed and dreaming of... the filibuster.

I can't eat, I can't think, my work is a mess... because of... the filibuster.

28 posted on 04/09/2005 9:50:48 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
I heard a little girl whisper in church today, "Daddy, are they going to take away the filibuster?"

The whole pew began to weep openly.

29 posted on 04/09/2005 9:54:00 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

"I couldn't sleep last night... lying awake in bed and dreaming of... the filibuster."


DO YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT ?!?


Or as we used to hear as kids, "Do you want some tea and cookies for your pity party?"

LOL


30 posted on 04/09/2005 10:03:52 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: SteveMcKing

In a poll of all the children in the world, the kids were asked to choose between Lassie, Christmas, Halloween, or the fillibuster.

103% chose the fillibuster as their favorite thing.


31 posted on 04/09/2005 10:07:44 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Viking2002

Spoken like a true Viking!!:) love it...


32 posted on 04/09/2005 10:15:58 PM PDT by suzyq5558 (This space is reserved for the next round of liberal idiocy... there they go again)
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To: blam

This is great news. The filibuster is a colossal waste of time and money.


33 posted on 04/09/2005 10:17:42 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: Lancey Howard; Liz; Alamo-Girl; Calpernia; bd476; Lazamataz; thoughtomator; nicmarlo; Quilla; ...
I have a funny feeling that the scumbags will not leave the Court until there's a scumbag President to appoint their replacements.

I pray that the wrath of God Himself be executed upon the workers of iniquity in high places, these rulers who rule with deceitful hearts, these who revel in evil devices, in Jesus' Name--may their evil reigns end prematurely by impeachment by the hand of the sovereign PEOPLE, One Nation, Under God!!!
34 posted on 04/09/2005 10:18:50 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

BTW I am in favor of filibustering (not on appoinments) because it eliminates what John Stuart Mills called the "tyranny of the majority".

How so? I know of no filibuster that has never ended. So if anything, it only delays the tyranny.


35 posted on 04/09/2005 10:19:29 PM PDT by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: DennisR

Talk is cheap - let's SEE it! SHOW ME THE NUCLEAR OPTION!


37 posted on 04/09/2005 10:22:32 PM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: blam

What is it with these Brits - can't they get anything right ..??

The Republicans are not destroying the filibuster - they're just destroying the democrats' power.


38 posted on 04/09/2005 10:49:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: blam
"Under the rules filibusters must remain standing, cannot lean on the podium or take toilet breaks."

Mr.Sherwell is mis-informed.

The democRATs in the Senate are not doing any talking, they are just declaring that the nominations are "under filibuster" and then the Senate is going about other business.

If they applied the real rules of the filibuster, the vote would only be held up for as long as someone was up there talking.

The Senate president also could enforce that nobody leaves the chamber while the filibuster was in progress.

If they followed their own rule on filibusters, the problem would take care of itself, I guarantee you.

Could you imagine how drawn and ugly ol' Teddy Kennedy would look after a couple of days without sleep, having to remain in his seat while they filibustered?

39 posted on 04/09/2005 10:52:16 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Lancey Howard; Phocion; El Gato; Straight Vermonter
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the idea was to eliminate filibustering ONLY on appointments? The aticle seems to imply that all filibustering will be eliminated.

BTW I am in favor of filibustering (not on appoinments) because it eliminates what John Stuart Mills called the "tyranny of the majority".


By the way, I was watching "People for the American Way" discuss their ad campaign on CSPAN the other night. They too are pushing the idea that Republicans want to eliminate the entire filibuster (that would be fine by me).

I don't subscribe to the "tyranny of the majority" idea because the so called remedy is a "tyranny of the minority". If they're both to be considered "problems" it seems clear to me that the former is preferable because in the case of the latter the only thing that changes is that you have more people being subjected to "tyranny".
40 posted on 04/09/2005 11:05:43 PM PDT by Jaysun (I must warn you, I am a black belt in bullshitsu)
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