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Alliances of gay and straight battle bigotry in high schools
Newark Star Ledger ^ | 4/10/2005 | Catherine Jun

Posted on 04/10/2005 12:32:31 PM PDT by Incorrigible

Alliances of gay and straight battle bigotry in high schools

Sunday, April 10, 2005
BY CATHERINE JUN
Star-Ledger Staff

[Westfield, NJ] -- Gay jokes by his high school classmates always troubled Rob Santucci. But when another student said "all gays should be put on a raft and exiled," he decided to take action.

Santucci, a senior at Voorhees Regional High School in Hunterdon County, founded a gay-straight alliance group at his school in September called Students Making Advancements for Respect and Tolerance, or SMART.

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While common on college campuses, gay-straight alliances at high schools are growing in number, according Joshua Lamont, spokesman for the New York-based Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network.

Lamont said there are at least 106 high school gay-straight alliance organizations in New Jersey, and 24 of those groups were founded in the past year. Nationally, the number of high schools with gay-straight alliance groups has jumped from about 500 five years ago to nearly 3,000 today, he said.

Lamont credits the growth to the recent national debate over legalizing gay marriages and the highly publicized killing in 1998 of Matthew Shepard, a gay Wyoming college student.

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The Voorhees group meets most Thursday afternoons. At a recent meeting, the group decided to host a movie night and debated the merits of films such as "Hedwig and the Angry Inch," "Birdcage," "Boys Don't Cry," "Philadelphia" or "The Laramie Project." In the end, "The Laramie Project" -- which sheds light on the murder of Shepard -- won the popular vote.

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Yes but try starting a heterosexual boosting club in these schools and see what happens...
1 posted on 04/10/2005 12:32:35 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Coleus
"We don't advocate any moral decision or viewpoint regarding sexuality," said Peter Horn, faculty coordinator of the Westfield High club, now in its fifth year. "We advocate a moral value -- we want kids to feel safe and respected."

What the heck does this mean?  It's doublespeak.

2 posted on 04/10/2005 12:33:28 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible
Just so you know...

The National Day of Silence is Wednesday, April 13th. 

3 posted on 04/10/2005 12:35:11 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible

When I grew up, we didn't put up with gays. And you know what, it probably had a significant effect on lots of people who could have gone either way.

There is nothing good to say about the gay lifestyle. They play havoc with demographics. They play havoc with children. Their promiscuity is legendary, and they certainly seem to commit a disproportionate share of sexual crimes against children.

While it's never acceptable to be violent towards anyone, for any reason, going out of our way to make these people feel accepted by society is also not acceptable (to me, at least).

Encouraging tolerance = encouraging homosexuality.


4 posted on 04/10/2005 12:39:59 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Incorrigible

As a male high school student, I've been very vocal against this type of club, for I see it as promoting homosexuality in schools. The Gay - Stright Alliance at my school has a handfull members and they openly "express" their dirty ways for everyone to see, instead of staying in the closet. IMO they should'nt "come out" if they cant handle the ridicule that will follow. Untill my freshman year i could have cared less, that was untill one grabed my arse in the hallway.

/rant


5 posted on 04/10/2005 12:42:32 PM PDT by blackeagle
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To: Incorrigible
I guess the poor kid who had his underwear shoved in his mouth and murdered by the two gay men had no effect on these students, but a homosexual out cruising for trouble just rocks their world. Unbelievable.
6 posted on 04/10/2005 12:44:58 PM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: blackeagle
until one grabbed my arse in the hallway.

That's sexual harassment...you should report it.

7 posted on 04/10/2005 12:53:32 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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To: Incorrigible
Gay jokes by his high school classmates always troubled Rob Santucci.

I bet. I wonder Rob the crusader has a secret?

8 posted on 04/10/2005 12:55:47 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This happened in my freshman year, now I'm a junior. After a few events I had in middle school, I'm not adpt to running to the school administration for anything. I have found they tend to compound the situation by bringing in too many people and ends with me getting upset with them for the weeks of "counciling on the conflict" by the guidance department.


9 posted on 04/10/2005 1:00:29 PM PDT by blackeagle
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To: Incorrigible
Gay jokes by his high school classmates always troubled Rob Santucci.

What a Nancy Boy.

10 posted on 04/10/2005 1:01:02 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Azzurri

Agreed, Rob needs to "butch up" if he ever wants to survive in the real world.


11 posted on 04/10/2005 1:02:26 PM PDT by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Incorrigible
"We don't advocate any moral decision or viewpoint regarding sexuality," said Peter Horn, faculty coordinator of the Westfield High club, now in its fifth year. "We advocate a moral value -- we want kids to feel safe and respected."

What the heck does this mean? It's doublespeak.

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The reporter misheard him. The last line was:

"We advocate amoral value -- we want kids to feel safe and respected."

12 posted on 04/10/2005 1:05:59 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Incorrigible

"Battle bigotry" sounds so righteous. But I don't think that's what these groups are battling.


13 posted on 04/10/2005 1:06:56 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Incorrigible

The straight students tho, cannot have a day of steady chatter to promote good will for their preferences,


14 posted on 04/10/2005 1:07:47 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Incorrigible
At a recent meeting, the group decided to host a movie night and debated the merits of films such as "Hedwig and the Angry Inch,"

Wow. If it only gets to an inch when it's angry, no wonder they hate life.

15 posted on 04/10/2005 1:08:09 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Incorrigible

Notice how the homosexuals do not use GLSEN or GSA in their articles in the manner they used to.

they have adapted to going stealth in order to conceal their activities. Even to the point of adopting new acronyms in order to conceal.

GSA's have no place in school they are ONLY about recruiting children to recreational sex and normalizing homosexual sex.

Any mother or father who allows their child to enter these so called "clubs" is guaranteeing their children be marked for abuse.


16 posted on 04/10/2005 1:10:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Incorrigible
Just so you know... The National Day of Silence is Wednesday, April 13th.

We can only hope for silence from the homosexual addicts ...

17 posted on 04/10/2005 1:11:43 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Incorrigible
the highly publicized killing in 1998 of Matthew Shepard, a gay Wyoming college student.

The Matthew Shepard incident was a drug deal gone bad. All the men involved in that incident were dopers. His gayness had nothing to do with it. But don't tell the professional gays that.

18 posted on 04/10/2005 1:12:52 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: blackeagle
geez...
19 posted on 04/10/2005 1:14:47 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: SIDENET
I get the same feeling. I think a "Gay-Straight Alliance" club is in reality an "Out of the closet-In the Closet Alliance" club.
20 posted on 04/10/2005 1:16:11 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism)
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To: Incorrigible
Hmmmmm ...

How about a different new organization to improve tolerance?
STARS
Students Tolerant of All Religious Students

Or of course if we want to show REAL tolerance how about
STABB
Students Tolerant of All Bible Belivers

Or even better to show REAL tolerance in public schools, how about
STRAPPS
Students Tolerence for Religious And Praying/Prayful Students

To bring this to a close, we must also mention the following if we want the students to show REAL tolerance ...
STOCK
Students Tolerant Of Christian Knowledge

21 posted on 04/10/2005 1:17:47 PM PDT by RileyD, nwJ ("Only the humble are sane." anon)
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To: Lizavetta
The media obsessed over the Shepard incident partly because it fit in with their usual promotion of the homosexual agenda, but probably partly because they wanted to fire up the Democratic base to go vote in the November 1998 elections.

Of course that also played into the Clinton survival strategy to intimidate the Republicans in Congress. If Clinton hadn't so openly thumbed his nose at Congress after the election, in his response to the Congressional questionnaire, the whole impeachment issue might have been dropped without coming to a vote.

22 posted on 04/10/2005 1:25:03 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Incorrigible
"We advocate a moral value

Please tell me who it is that establishes their moral value. Certainly isn't derived from the Bible. So I must believe that they establish their own idea of moral value which means anyone can have their own set of moral values. In essence, believe in what feels good to them personally. I can see where this country is headed and it isn't a pretty sight.

23 posted on 04/10/2005 1:25:08 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: Clint N. Suhks

" That's sexual harassment...you should report it."

Not in today's world - today, reporting it is called bigotry.


24 posted on 04/10/2005 1:25:53 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Incorrigible

OK one more time....Mathew Shepard was not killed for being gay!! This has been widely refuted! These folks writing this article are still clinging to their poster boy!

Actually, straight clubs are forming, as are Truth Out Days complete with parades and T Shirts! The Alliance Defense Fund has promised to represent, free of charge, any student who participates in these truth days and is disciplined for it.


25 posted on 04/10/2005 1:28:55 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: BobL
While it's never acceptable to be violent towards anyone, for any reason...

You can rest assured that while that mind-set prevails current trends will continue unhindered. This is not a warning. It is a statement of "realpolitic." If the Shiavo case shows us anything, it shows us "protest" as such, is utterly ineffectual.

The last popular movement for social reform that had a basis in anything other than implied and explicit threat, character assassination, and astroturfing was the civil rights moves of the sixties.

26 posted on 04/10/2005 1:36:31 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: taxesareforever
In essence, believe in what feels good to them personally.

That's it in a nutshell.

The difference between "us" and "them" is we like to call for doing what is "good," and they do what they like, and call it good.

27 posted on 04/10/2005 1:44:18 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Incorrigible
If they kept this behavior in the closet then no-one would be offended.
28 posted on 04/10/2005 1:54:16 PM PDT by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart 3/18/05 American was gone when I woke up)
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To: blackeagle
"I'll give you special rights, 30% off on Vaseline. Now get the #$^% back in the closet."
Andrew Dice Clay
29 posted on 04/10/2005 1:58:54 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Lizavetta

It is too bad some of the more conservative documentary makers or even tv-movie makers is unwilling to do an accurate documentation of what exactly happened on that sexcrusing drug deal robbery gone bad.

The homosexuals would have a hissy fit.


30 posted on 04/10/2005 2:02:45 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Incorrigible

The invasion continues and the fight for the hearts and souls of our children never ends. No other type of club with a clear sexual theme would be considered acceptable in high schools but for some reason this is considered "different". Try setting up a swingers club in a highschool or any number of other clubs helping kids become more tollerent of the sexual diversity of others and see how far you get. I home school my kids so they and I don't have to deal with this kind of thing. Its not worth the trouble. Homosexuality and other forms of sexual behavior falling outside Heterosexual monogamy should be considered obscene. Maybe some day our law makers will have enough courage to write an amendment to the consitution defining oscenity in just such a way. If only our founders had known and had did it in the beginning much of the debate over freedom of expression and gay rights activism would've been settled. It would've never gotten out of the closet...but today I doubt that given the courts even such an amendment would be ignored by the courts since judges seem to think they are beyond the law rather than the keepers of it.


31 posted on 04/10/2005 2:02:50 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm
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To: Azzurri
Gay jokes by his high school classmates always troubled Rob Santucci. But when another student said "all gays should be put on a raft and exiled," he decided to take action.

Yes, jokes are one thing but threatening to put all gays on a raft is certainly no joke. Apparently, putting everybody on a raft happens a lot in New Jersey and such a threat must be taken seriously. I think all the people who don't take it seriously should be put on a raft, no seriously, a real big raft, a really big raft, I am not kidding!
32 posted on 04/10/2005 2:08:13 PM PDT by Old North State
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To: nonliberal

LOL


33 posted on 04/10/2005 2:17:01 PM PDT by blackeagle
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To: Ma3lst0rm

My goodness! As a strict conservative and constitutional constructionist, I don't see how gay/straight/bi is any business of the schools/government. As long as the kids aren't breaking any rules, who cares?


34 posted on 04/10/2005 2:31:36 PM PDT by Intombe
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To: Clint N. Suhks; blackeagle
blackeagle: until one grabbed my arse in the hallway.

Clint N. Suhks: That's sexual harassment...you should report it.

I agree Clint, that is sexual harassment.

And blackeagle, if the school administation does nothing, then you have a good case to sue them for creating a hostile working/learning environment.

35 posted on 04/10/2005 2:53:19 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Incorrigible; little jeremiah
BTTT


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues


Deciphering 'Gay' Word-Speak and Language of Confusion

36 posted on 04/10/2005 2:58:29 PM PDT by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Mrs Mark; Lizavetta; All

Exploiting Matthew Shepard
AIM Report ^ | December 22, 2004 | By Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 12/28/2004 5:07:36 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1309843/posts

You know there must be something happening when the New York Times praises ABC News for running "an intellectually brave episode" of the "20/20" show that has angered the homosexual lobby. That means the Times found it convincing, and so did we. In the November 27 show, "20/20" uncovered the truth about the 1998 murder of Matthew Shepard, widely depicted as a hate crime because he was a homosexual. Almost everything we were told about this murder at the time by ABC, the Times and every other major news organization was FALSE.

More here: http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/2331_0_2_0_C/

Accuracy in Media wrote this piece. Did the main stream liberal media mention it anywhere?


37 posted on 04/10/2005 3:34:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

More one the "Day of Silence" - AKA as the Indoctrination Into The "Gay" Life Day.

Well, if all the homosexuals and pro-homosexuals shut up on that day, it would be a perfect day to tell the truth with no heckling.

What sickness.

Let DirtyHarryY2K and me know if you want on/off this pinglist.


38 posted on 04/10/2005 3:49:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Incorrigible

How about a pro-lifelone faithful marriage day? That's what's needed.


39 posted on 04/10/2005 3:50:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: BobL

One poster (what kind of poster, I do not know) recently made the homo-speak comment that normal men are not bothered by homosexual advances. If it makes a man sickened or angry to be accosted by a homo, it means he himself has those desires hidden deep inside. I suppose that would go for women being grabbed or accosted by female homosexuals.

RIIIGHT!

All I can say is (deleted bleeping deleted). Having been accosted twice by homosexuals as a teenager, and not feeling fuzzy and warm or tolerant about them, did not mean I was a homosexual.

In fact, the exact opposite.


40 posted on 04/10/2005 3:55:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Intombe
My goodness!

Don't get excited -remain calm and serene knowing that you are correct to oppose the homosexual indoctrination agenda.

41 posted on 04/10/2005 5:10:50 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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To: Incorrigible
"Alliances of gay and straight "

Mixed marriages are fraught with problems

42 posted on 04/10/2005 5:50:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: Intombe

That shows you are none of the above. Homosexuality is obscene by its definition and our nation has regulated such things since its founding. It is only within recent history that the sexually egocentric have successful duped so many into allowing the promotion of sexual deviance on public school property and other public venues. Sexual issues are intrinsically private in nature though in today's culture the lines have been increasly erased allowing the most moronic ideas and concepts to be championed in the name of self-esteem and tolerance. A true conservative would be minimalistic and require that schools do what they are chartered to do, educate our children and leave complex issues like sexuality to the children and their parents.


43 posted on 04/10/2005 7:06:14 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm
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To: Incorrigible

I love The National Day of Silence.

It's one of those few days you can get a word in edgewise with some of these people.


44 posted on 04/10/2005 7:10:20 PM PDT by MWS (Errare humanum est, in errore perservare stultum.)
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To: Incorrigible

I think an that something which isn't considered by all the well-intentioned folks who push for the Gay Straight Alliance after school clubs is the increasing risk they are placing the students that participate. It increases the chances that students who may be confused or inexperienced sexually will become sexually active through hooking up at these clubs...This will especially for male students will result in the potential increase of HIV infections as more experienced and sexually active boys have a greater pool of potential partners to infect. I think what we will find in the most active chapters of such clubs that there is a higher than average incidence of STDs than the general population much like you find in homosexual and bisexual populations in general. Will anyone ever do the surveys and crunch the numbers? When gay pigs fly.


45 posted on 04/10/2005 7:18:45 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm
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To: Incorrigible

I think an that something which isn't considered by all the well-intentioned folks who push for the Gay Straight Alliance after school clubs is the increasing risk they are placing the students that participate. It increases the chances that students who may be confused or inexperienced sexually will become sexually active through hooking up at these clubs...This will especially for male students will result in the potential increase of HIV infections as more experienced and sexually active boys have a greater pool of potential partners to infect. I think what we will find in the most active chapters of such clubs that there is a higher than average incidence of STDs than the general population much like you find in homosexual and bisexual populations in general. Will anyone ever do the surveys and crunch the numbers? When gay pigs fly.


46 posted on 04/10/2005 7:19:37 PM PDT by Ma3lst0rm
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To: blackeagle

I hope you beat him well for it.


47 posted on 04/10/2005 7:19:45 PM PDT by FierceKulak
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To: Incorrigible

Well, basically I think he is trying to say that they won't come down on one side or the other on whether homosexuality is wrong, but that they are pretty much telling the student body that it's wrong to give somebody a hard time, verbally or physically, because they are gay,

That's a message that I think most people agree with - I certainly do.

The tip-off is that he is a 'faculty advisor,' which means he is on the faculty, which means he is a teacher, which means he has a difficult time communicating thoughts clearly. :-)


48 posted on 04/10/2005 7:22:44 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: Incorrigible; Born Conservative; EdReform

"We advocate a moral value -- we want kids to feel safe and respected." >>.

Yep, a lot of doublespeak and BS.

No prayer, no God, no morals, no values, secular humanism, earth "worship" day, no 10 commandments, sexual health clinics, condom demonstrations-traditional family and western civilization, gone.


49 posted on 04/10/2005 7:23:13 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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To: blackeagle
Untill my freshman year i could have cared less, that was untill one grabed my arse in the hallway.

That's a good time and place to throw a right hand.

50 posted on 04/10/2005 7:23:28 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("If Stabenow were any bigger a roadblock, she could halt traffic on all of I-75.")
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