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Teen risks penalty over beads
Albany Times Union ^ | April 9, 2005 | MICHELE MORGAN BOLTON,

Posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:10 PM PDT by Zilch

Teen risks penalty over beads School threatens in-school suspension if Raven Furbert dons red, white and blue necklace

By MICHELE MORGAN BOLTON, Staff writer First published: Saturday, April 9, 2005

SCHENECTADY -- The saga continues for a 13-year-old Mont Pleasant Middle School student who is suing school officials for the right to wear a handmade red, white and blue necklace to class. Raven Furbert was a typical student before she received a string-it-yourself bead kit for Christmas.

Now, the girl who filed the civil rights violation claim in U.S. District Court in February has drawn national attention as she fights administrators who say paraphernalia featuring gang-oriented colors is prohibited. At least 50 Web sites have been dedicated to her.

Furbert said she wears the necklace in honor of soldiers serving overseas, including an uncle and three other relatives.

Friday, the case again boiled over when Furbert's mother, Katie Grzywna, was called to school after her daughter was threatened with in-school suspension if she didn't remove the beads.

Grzywna opted instead to take her daughter home for the day.

"This is ridiculous," she said. "If she's in an in-school suspension Monday, I'll be sitting on the hood of my car wearing a red-, white- and blue necklace from 8 to 3."

"This is an action taken by the district to punish her for standing up for her rights," added the family's lawyer, Bob Keach.

"They're enforcing an unwritten, unconstitutional policy against a 13-year-old who wants to show her patriotism."

School district spokesman Michael Lisi said officials are happy to let the courts do the work: "You can't measure prevention," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: discipline; dresscodes; gangs; publicschool; supportourtroops; zerobrains; zerocommonsense; zerointelligence; zerotolerance

1 posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:18 PM PDT by Zilch
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To: Zilch
If it recorded her sexual experience, it would be acceptable, but since it is supporting her country, she is in trouble.
2 posted on 04/10/2005 5:01:48 PM PDT by Montfort (The Democrat Party -- The Party of Death)
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To: Zilch

This is outrageous. I hope the girl wins her law suit


3 posted on 04/10/2005 5:06:38 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Zilch

I'm glad that they filed a civil rights complaint on those freaks. It is one of the things that they actually fear. Give 'em Hell!!!


4 posted on 04/10/2005 5:09:08 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: Zilch
Zero Tolerance strikes again.

Defund these fools already.

5 posted on 04/10/2005 5:10:50 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Zilch
gang-oriented colors

LOL! The USA gang!

6 posted on 04/10/2005 5:14:36 PM PDT by TheDon (Euthanasia is an atrocity.)
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To: Zilch
School district spokesman Michael Lisi said officials are happy to let the courts do the work: "You can't measure prevention," he said.

I'm sure you are, Michael. Especially since the courts seem to be overrunning with activist judges who actually seem to enjoy shredding and trashing the constitution.

7 posted on 04/10/2005 5:14:46 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Montfort

She also happens to be black.


8 posted on 04/10/2005 5:16:46 PM PDT by Jason Kauppinen
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To: Wormwood

The school district is claiming that such beads have been used by some to display gang colors. Of course, this means that no one can wear any beads of any colors.

Schools can't differentiate between asprin and cocaine as it throws out kids in a "zero tolorance" drug policy. Likewise, it can't tell the difference between a 2" pocket knife and an AK-47, or for that matter, an AK-47 brought in by a student and an AK-47 which is part of a gun show that leases space on the weekends. They can't tell the difference between a slap to the face of a "fresh" boy and the punches of a school bully.

Shall I go on?

If your school district ever passes a "zero tolorance" policy of any sort it is your duty as a Freeper to point out that this means a "zero brains" response.


9 posted on 04/10/2005 5:18:37 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Zilch

Why does the field of Education seem to attract such idiots? This situation lends credence to the saying,"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."


10 posted on 04/10/2005 5:19:00 PM PDT by etcetera (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom, unless he be vigilant in its preservation.)
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To: etcetera

"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

Those who can't teach, administrate.

And those who are brain-addled enough to be on a school board pass zero-tolorance policies.


11 posted on 04/10/2005 5:23:33 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Zilch

I wonder which branch of the "gang" she wants to join, Army, Navy, or Air Force?


12 posted on 04/10/2005 5:23:45 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Zilch
The insanity that is now being played out in public schools should be a political issue. . .

Every frickin Lib who shows up for media face-time. . .should be asked where they stand on these anti-sanity decisions/positions; which are no more than versions of the Libs institutional brand of political correctness.

More of these Demrats would be knocked out of their box. . .if the public realized that even half of what is going down today. . .is being done in. . .their name.

13 posted on 04/10/2005 5:33:58 PM PDT by cricket
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To: Jason Kauppinen

How do you know? The article does not say anything about her skin color


14 posted on 04/10/2005 5:34:58 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Zilch
If they would only put as much emphasis on actually having the children learn something. But if you can't teach indoctrinate!
15 posted on 04/10/2005 5:46:48 PM PDT by Archon of the East (Pray for a GOP backbone now!)
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To: TheDon

Yah those darn patriots ........

LOL......


16 posted on 04/10/2005 6:00:41 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Zilch
School district spokesman Michael Lisi said officials are happy to let the courts do the work: "You can't measure prevention," he said.

And if you can't measure it how do you know its working ?

Time to take back the schools ( right after we bag the courts ).
17 posted on 04/10/2005 6:02:41 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Zilch

bttt


18 posted on 04/10/2005 6:09:29 PM PDT by Jonx6
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To: Zilch
More coverage on this story here:

http://www.wnyt.com/x1649.xml?ag=x156&sb=x183

2nd article excerpt:

"The school's code of conduct states student's jewelry "will be safe, appropriate and not...interfere with the educational process." It also says "students will not wear any clothing deemed to be gang related."

The code of conduct does not explicitly mention beads or beaded necklaces. But school officials say the beads have been affiliated with gangs in the past. So they're not allowed.

"We want to make sure that our students have options to express themselves, but it has to be done in a way that's safe for everyone in the school building,” said Shari Greenleaf, the attorney for the city school district.

"It's red, white and blue. The colors of the school are red, white and blue. This is potentially gang-related? What does that mean? It's ridiculous,” Keach said.

School officials say the color red is often affiliated with one particular gang, and the color blue is often affiliated with another."
19 posted on 04/10/2005 6:09:45 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Zilch

This is par for a school from a State with Hillary as Senator.


20 posted on 04/10/2005 6:32:20 PM PDT by Spirited (God, Bless America)
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To: Zilch

Remember to file a civil suit naming the administrators individually and the district, seeking $10 million at least.


21 posted on 04/10/2005 6:45:40 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: SIDENET
I'm glad that they filed a civil rights complaint on those freaks. It is one of the things that they actually fear.

And for a real good reason:

UNITED STATES CODE, TITLE 18,CHAPTER 13, SECTION 242;
Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

22 posted on 04/10/2005 6:52:06 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Zilch

You go, grrrl! Sue the living sh*t out of that school district for (1) being so stupid, (2) being traitorous idiots and (3) daring to draw a paycheck from the public treasury with the above liabilities. Use the settlement money to go to Patrick Henry or Hillsdale College and finish the rest of these fifth column types off when you get a seat on the Supreme Court someday.


23 posted on 04/10/2005 7:09:05 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: Zilch
Uncle Sam's Gang deserves all the support from every patriotic citizen.

Where's the ACLU when you need them? (sarcasm of course!)

24 posted on 04/10/2005 7:22:07 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: TWohlford
I just remember the little kids in the playground play cowboys and Indians and using their fingers for guns being suspended under the zero tolerance rule.

Then I read about a little girl and red, white and blue necklace and shake my head. People working in the education system are a bunch of morons.
25 posted on 04/10/2005 7:23:11 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Kaslin; Jason Kauppinen
How do you know? The article does not say anything about her skin color

Because some of us saw the story when it first appeared. Other Articles. Pictures.

26 posted on 04/10/2005 11:14:18 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Here to help)
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To: TWohlford

http://zerointelligence.net/

http://endzerotolerance.com/zero_tolerance_stories.htm


27 posted on 04/10/2005 11:21:11 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Kaslin

If she were homeschooled or attended a private school would there be a law suit?


28 posted on 04/11/2005 3:57:16 AM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: LibertyRocks
School officials say the color red is often affiliated with one particular gang, and the color blue is often affiliated with another."

IIRC, one is the Bloods, and the other the Crips, and they have not generally enjoyed a peaceful relationship. Why would someone wear colors of two or three rival gangs when the obvious (given) explanation makes more sense?

These people are educating children? Sheesh!

29 posted on 04/11/2005 4:02:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Zilch

Outrage bump.


30 posted on 04/11/2005 7:29:38 AM PDT by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: Americanexpat

" Then I read about a little girl and red, white and blue necklace and shake my head"

Don't forget the second grader in Atlanta suspended for carring a weapon...in the form of a Tweety Bird key ring. It had a one inch chain attaching Tweety to the key ring, and was therefore considered a dangerous weapon. Also there was an episode of a child suspended for possession of a GI Joe toy gun (3/4")


31 posted on 04/11/2005 7:51:56 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Jason Kauppinen

Is this the issue? As her white mom, I don't know? and honestly do not want to go there. She is my daughter, and I am very proud of her for this.


32 posted on 04/12/2005 6:34:01 AM PDT by upsetmom (Raven Furbert's Mom VERY PROUD MOM.)
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To: Kaslin

Google her name.


33 posted on 04/13/2005 8:20:06 AM PDT by Jason Kauppinen
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To: upsetmom

It just struck me that the actions of the school administration could be classified as racial profiling.


34 posted on 04/13/2005 8:22:40 AM PDT by Jason Kauppinen
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To: Zilch

Oh yeah, those beads are pretty provocative.

What gang is that? Oh yeah, the gang of USA!

35 posted on 04/13/2005 8:27:54 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TheDon
The USA gang!

It's not a "gang", it's a "club".

36 posted on 04/13/2005 8:30:33 AM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Zilch

I am very gang symbol stupid.. (thank God) .. but does any official gang have red white and blue as their colors?


37 posted on 04/13/2005 8:37:17 AM PDT by Cate
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To: Zilch

Yet another reason to homeschool.


38 posted on 04/13/2005 8:38:37 AM PDT by SaltyJoe (Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.)
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To: Jason Kauppinen

I have not, nor will I go there. Some other people have mentioned this to me however, I just don't think it is relavent. Maybe thats what made them violate her rights but for us it just isn't an issue. They have taught her to sterotype already with this case. One instance is they had a substitute teacher named Mr. Hussien and she was afraid to go into his class so she went to someone elses math class out of fear. She ended up with in-school suspension for this. For those of you that may have missed NRANews.com with Cam Edwards, he gave us the time to tell our story and pass the word around.I know alot of opinions on the ACLU and if people have other suggestions for whom I may contact for help, please let us know. I have posted Raven's Necklaces on e-aby and she donated the proceeds so for to the freepation. The prices have been lowered to $3.00 which only covers the cost of making, envelope for shipping and an additional $1.65 for postage. She makes about.55 a piece. This is a good girl


39 posted on 04/14/2005 8:02:57 PM PDT by upsetmom (Raven Furbert's Mom VERY PROUD MOM.)
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To: upsetmom

*nods*

Here is another organisation that might be able to help:

www.thefire.org

Fire stands for Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.


40 posted on 04/15/2005 7:33:09 AM PDT by Jason Kauppinen
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