Conservatives surge ahead,Liberals in freefall after devastating Gomery testimony

Toronto Star ^ | 04/11/05 | SUSAN DELACOURT AND ROBERT BENZIE

[paudio]

If Canada goes Conservative, will Freepers still dislike Canada?

[An Old Marine]

I'm always in favor of seeing a Liberal anywhere defeated but the reality is that this will make no difference in relations between Canada and the US. Candaians as a whole have decided to take the European approach. Weakness is good, the ability to defend yourself militarily is bad, socialism and the ensuing inevitable poverty is good. When things go bad just blame America and George Bush as a one size fits all excuse.

Such a shame.

[Always Right]

If Canada goes Conservative, will Freepers still dislike Canada?

It's hard to like someone who keeps spitting on you. Once Canada decides America is not so bad and treats us like a friend again, America will forgive and makeup.

[dfwgator]

Aren't "conservatives" in Canada basically our RINOs?

[An Old Marine]

If Canada goes Conservative, will Freepers still dislike Canada?

Depends on what Canadian conservatives do with their power. I'm betting most Canadians are nothing more than misplaced EU type Europeans who revel in their weakness and blame America for all their problems.

Regardless of who runs the country I think we are very different from Canadians and thats the real root problem.

[DM1]

"If Canada goes Conservative, will Freepers still dislike Canada?"
depends on Harpers view of the US
if he decided to sign up for Missile Defense and doesnt have any of his MPs squish a Bush voodoo doll on TV then obviously we will like Canada better silly ;)

[AmishDude]

I disagree. America really doesn't care about Canada. At all. Really.

[Always Right]

I disagree. America really doesn't care about Canada. At all. Really.

I agree that what Canada says or thinks is not of much concern to most Americans, but the negative attitude some have towards Canada is more a reflection of what they say about us then anything else. America generally likes Canada except lately they keep pooping in our yard.

[sergeantdave]

Canada is good for the United States in three areas:

- It grows big walleyes.

- It knows how to brew real beer.

- It manufactures flush toilets that work.

(Do the Indians up near Sioux Lookout still shoot arrows at locomotives?)

[Diogenesis]

THE REAL DEAL:

Pseudo "conservative" in Canada.

[Heartofsong83]

Not all of them. Many of them are equal to pure Republicans.

[Heartofsong83]

Most of those voters are not voting Conservative though. In Quebec (where anti-Americans are in the majority), they are voting Bloc en masse. Outside of Quebec (where they are in a sizable minority), they will either be sticking to the Fiberals, but more likely voting NDP or staying home.

[Heartofsong83]

http://www.thestar.com/static/PDF/050411_fed_vote.pdf - for poll details

[dfwgator]

Not all of them. Many of them are equal to pure Republicans.

Well maybe some of them from the Western Provinces.

[el_doctor2]

If i may quote robin williams

"living in Canada is like living in the apartment above a really great party"

[Heartofsong83]

And some from the "east": Cheryl Gallant (possibly the most conservative member in the House), Scott Reid, Pierre Poilievre, Guy Lauzon, Gord Brown...all staunch conservatives from Ontario. (Not to mention many in the provincial legislature like Jim Flaherty, Frank Klees, John Baird and Tim Hudak)

[Heartofsong83]

Another interesting note: at the bottom it says "social issues", in other words "moral values", are the #1 voter concern.

Sounds like a repeat of the 2004 US election!

[jbloedow]

Speaking of the west, freepers should like this guy:

http://www.myronthompson.com/

On the list of things Canada has that the US should care about:
- Alberta Oil Sands
- Unlimited supply of fresh water
- "The Canada-U.S. trade relationship is the largest ever to exist between two nations. Two-way trade in goods and services between Canada and the United States during 2000 was estimated at approximately C$700 billion, or almost C$2.0 billion per day."
- "Canada has been the leading foreign export market for U.S. goods since 1946."
- Alberta Oil Sands
- Unlimited supply of fresh water

Did I mention the Alberta oil sands?

[GMMAC]

Too bad this thread has largely, due to one ill-considered comment, turned into a pathetic Kanuckistani "please like us" pity party.

The CPC should rightly look to pertinent historical precedent:
In 1974, the then minority Liberals were widely despised. Tory Leader Stanfield waited to pull the electoral plug and then played the perfect gentleman by conducting a consistently "high road" campaign which resulted in another five more years of Trudeau and ultimately imposition of his vile Charter.

Lesson(s): Liberals are amoral sociopathic scum who will resort to any bold lie and stoop to any under-handed tactic to cling to power. Ergo, they must always be kicked while they're down and can then only be beaten by besting them at their own dirty games and tricks.

Not that I'm among his admirers but, Brian Mulroney certainly proved as much in 1984 and - to a somewhat lesser extent - in 1988.

As did the local properly bare-knuckle Etobicoke Center campaign in '79 which dumped Trudeau-era Cabinet Minister Alasdair Gillespie.

Take note Mr. Harper, "fortune favors the brave".