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A West Too Wild (Barf Alert)
The New York Times ^ | April 11, 2005

Posted on 04/11/2005 6:38:36 AM PDT by Irontank

Along a border between Mexico and Arizona, a few dozen gunslingers are patrolling for illegal immigrants, and the fact that they have attracted mostly television cameras so far takes little away from the danger they pose to themselves and others. It would be far saner to leave the patrolling of the border to the border patrol. These self-proclaimed "Minutemen" - whom President Bush has rightly labeled vigilantes - should put their guns away and look where the real solutions to America's flawed immigration policy should be found: in Washington.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; minutemen; nyslimes; vigilantes
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Hey Minutemen...the NY Times wants you to go home and go back to sleep...your government will take care of you
1 posted on 04/11/2005 6:38:36 AM PDT by Irontank
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To: Irontank

The minutemen are well within their constitutional rights. end of story.


2 posted on 04/11/2005 6:39:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Irontank
"These self-proclaimed "Minutemen"...

But weren't the original "Minutemen" self-proclaimed as well?

3 posted on 04/11/2005 6:41:10 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Irontank

keep your guns and go see the New Yourk Slimes.


4 posted on 04/11/2005 6:44:51 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Irontank
The NY Times editors should read their history books more often.

The American Southwest is now part of the US because of those same type of "vigilantes" that fought Mexican troops.

If the Times had been around at that time they would have been on the side of the Mexicans.

5 posted on 04/11/2005 6:47:14 AM PDT by Noachian (To Control the Judiciary The People Must First Control The Congress)
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To: Redbob

I'm sure the NYTimes would have written similar things about the original Minutemen if it had been around in 1775.


6 posted on 04/11/2005 6:48:40 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Noachian

No doubt about that. Dan Rather would have conducted a sit down interview with Santa Anna.


7 posted on 04/11/2005 6:50:02 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Irontank
The Minutemen are showing us not only how to seal our borders and protect our national security, they are demonstrating how we, the people, can take back our country from the political establishment.

Which fence would you rather cross if you were sneaking past the Border patrol?

Lets make our Ports of Entry the choice for everyone coming to America.

Some questions and ideas for you to think about.
What do you think would happen if a popular football or other sports star was to start off the project by donating 5 thousand or 5 million dollars to build fences on private property that adjoins the border?

Then a few more sport stars each throw in a couple of thousand or million (grin) of their own money while asking all "True Americans" to send just one hours wages to the FENCE FUND?

Do you think that the politicians would be able to stop this from growing out of control and the voters demanding that the Feds "fence our border lands"?

Do you think the politicians would listen or ignore a million calls a day to their offices?

Never underestimate what the American people can do when they decide they want to do it.

While I'm at it, we could start a "Name and Shame List" of companies that hire illegals. Name the banks that loan money to a tax number when the illegal doesn't have a phony Social Security number. Name the mortgage companies that favor home loans to illegals, using our money for their downpayment.

If you have ideas or questions, throw them in the pot here. I'm sure there's FReeper who can answer most of the questions or critique your ideas.

Do you have any ideas on how to get this started?

We need to keep the fire burning while the media is watching and reporting.

Assistance provided by rodguy911; Travis McGee

8 posted on 04/11/2005 6:50:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
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To: rodguy911; Travis McGee

LOL Check the bottom line.


9 posted on 04/11/2005 6:51:07 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to report every illegal alien that you meet.")
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To: Irontank

The New York Times: all the news to fit a one world government


10 posted on 04/11/2005 6:51:39 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Irontank

Vigilantes with guns, deputized or not, was what tamed the wild west.


11 posted on 04/11/2005 6:57:08 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: B4Ranch
Let's make our Ports of Entry the choice for everyone coming to America.

A succinct positive message to dispel MSM stereotypes. Most excellent!

12 posted on 04/11/2005 7:19:45 AM PDT by Milhous
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the real solutions to America's flawed immigration policy should be found: in Washington

Some see government as the solution. Some see government as the problem....Reagan.

Why should we trust those who cause the problem to solve it? The minutemen are right on the means that they are using. Private action is what is needed.

Don't work in a corporate campus landscaped by illegals.
Don't work in an office building cleaned by illegals.
Don't shop at a store cleaned by illegals
Don't eat at a restaurant that employes illegals.
Don't attend Catholic or Assembly of God or Baptist churches which all welcome illegals.
Don't sell your house at a profit where the illegal's demand for housing has driven up home values.
Don't collect social security from a system kept alive by illegals with bogus social security numbers.

Do 80% of true Americans oppose illegal immigration? How many are willing to inconvenience themselves to truly oppose it?

13 posted on 04/11/2005 7:28:50 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Irontank

I wasn't aware the minutemen were packing. I understood they were just spotters and called in the Federales when they spotted illegals. Is it true that they are armed?


14 posted on 04/11/2005 7:31:49 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: B4Ranch

Why couldn't the private individuals who own property along the border build the good high fences on their own land that the Isralis use? I would be glad to contribute to a Border Defense Fund that landowners could apply to for funding for this project. Land owners could link one fence to another all along the border. The government, that has no will to stop the invasion, would have no reason to interfere. In case the NYT has forgotten, we ARE the government..."of the people, by the people and for the people"...you know.


15 posted on 04/11/2005 7:41:15 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: spintreebob

>>>"Don't work in a corporate campus landscaped by illegals. "

More:

Don't hire illegals to cut your grass.
Don't hire illegals to trim your trees.
Don't hire illegals to clean your house.


At some point in time, the liberals' desire for a clean environment will bring them over to this cause.

Hoppy


16 posted on 04/11/2005 7:41:41 AM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Arkie2

I'm sure some are packing but Arizona has a concealed carry law...so, presumably those who are packing would, or could, be doing so whether they were in Tombstone or Tuscon.


17 posted on 04/11/2005 7:43:33 AM PDT by Irontank (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under)
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To: mainepatsfan

It the NYT had written such disparaging remarks about Mssrs. Crockett, Bowie and Travis, there would have been a settlement of affairs requiring new staffing at the NYT.


18 posted on 04/11/2005 7:44:13 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: mainepatsfan

It the NYT had written such disparaging remarks about Mssrs. Crockett, Bowie and Travis, there would have been a settlement of affairs requiring new staffing at the NYT.


19 posted on 04/11/2005 7:46:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Irontank
"These self-proclaimed "Minutemen" - whom President Bush has rightly labeled vigilantes - should put their guns away and look where the real solutions to America's flawed immigration policy should be found: in Washington."

The Times fails to grasp the simple fact that the Minutemen were formed because "Washington" is NOT acting and is NOT enforcing existing law. The failure (refusal) of Washington to deal with this problem is the whole point of the exercize.
20 posted on 04/11/2005 7:47:51 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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