Posted on 04/11/2005 10:25:55 AM PDT by Michael_Michaelangelo
Indeed.
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dissembler ping!
> Yet intelligent design has nothing to do with the six days of creation and everything to do with hard evidence and logic.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
Yeah, and I'm the Pope.
I don't see any scientific evidence that would contradict the idea of a designer - assuming that that designer has been working for some 1 billion plus years, making lots of mistakes and false starts along the way.
I don't see any scientific evidence that would contradict the idea of a designer - assuming that that designer has been working for some 1 billion plus years, making lots of mistakes and false starts along the way.
Enterprise. Captain Kirk here. Ship's log.
"Location of crewmembers Spock and Kirk is Earth, 2004. I believe they called it the Democratic National Convention.
There appears to be no sign of intelligent design down here, Scotty. Beam us up. Over and out".
Look, it's obvious that God created the laws that flung everything into motion, how he created gravity as it reacts to heat, matter, energy, light, etc, and his creation of certain particles that were created when everything cooled. All of these laws were created from the beginning, and they are now realized from the consious human being. The consiousness that we hold today had to have been imagined as well, for everything in existence is understood by God.
The bible speaks for itself. It says God is the 'eternal one', not one as in the number one, but one as in 'everything'.
God is everything. God made us in his image, because we are the expression, the 'idea' of God.
To push away this argument in the support of 'evolution' itself, is indeed premature, and ignorant to say the least.
ID has "everything to do with hard evidence and logic"? Logic includes the fallacy of the excluded middle. Hard evidence means, well ..umm.., hard evidence - as in directly observable evidence. By example, hard evidence of murder is a body with a knife in its back, not a missing person and a trail of blood.
Why was this article published 9 days late?
"If every elementary particle in the observed universe (about 1080) were cranking out mutation events at the cosmic speed limit (about 1045 times per second) for a billion times the estimated age of the universe, they still could not produce the genes for a working flagellum."
Now that's an interesting statement.
The fact that most of the people promoting "intelligent design" seem to be hellfire-belching snakehandlers is just a statitical fluctuation.
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I don't "push away" the argument that God exists in order to support 'evolution' itself; I haven't the slightest problem conceptually reconciling evolution with the existence of gods. I "push away" the arguments that God exists because I find them either irrational or irrelevant of their own accord.
You certainly pontificate enough!
Then what is 'rational' to you Anti-Guv? That there is no 'God'? If anything, that's irrational, because the universe didn't create itself. A creator of design itself is at play here.
God is the beginning and the end. He is the motion of existence itself. That's not irrational.
I've heard it alleged that Evolution stands up to the test of being falsifiable while ID does not. Anything to that?
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