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Networked computers -- sharing a printer between them -- HELP!
11 April 2005

Posted on 04/11/2005 7:14:19 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Please help. Have a machine with Windows XP Professional and one with Windows 2000. Sharing a printer (HP Laserjet 4L). Can't get the Windows 2000 machine (secondary) to print on the printer connected to the main machine (Windows XP) and both are networked and do share other files including internet. Have clicked boxes allowing for "sharing" and need help determining WHY machine 2 won't print on printer on machine 1 (which has printer connected.

If you can help...thanks in advance.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: computers; frtechsupportnight; networking; printer; sharing
Please give me a hand on this one...somebody...
1 posted on 04/11/2005 7:14:20 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I assume when you state you've checked the sharing box you mean that you have selected the one in the printer properties on WinXP. Have you tried to delete the printer on the Win2k box and then readd the network printer? Also, do you have a firewall installed on the WinXP computer? It might be that you need to grant the Win2k IP more privledges.


2 posted on 04/11/2005 7:17:22 PM PDT by Brian328i
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Dang. My Hubby would probably know but he's not home yet. I'll keep checking to see if anyone helped and if not, I'll get Hubby on.

Are you using Wingate networking?

3 posted on 04/11/2005 7:17:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Life is always the Right choice)
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To: Brian328i

Yes, firewall installed on XP computer (main). How do I reset it to allow the printer to work? Thanks.


4 posted on 04/11/2005 7:19:44 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Try to disable the firewall first to see if that helps, if it does allow you to print with the firewall disabled you know it just needs the permissions. Depending on the firewall maker, I believe when I had to set on my parent's computer that runs norton to allow the IP's I wanted to print from full access to the machine. I don't remeber off the top of my head where you go so I can't exactly say that. Sorry, maybe someone who uses the same firewall can help you.


5 posted on 04/11/2005 7:22:18 PM PDT by Brian328i
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
...Can't get the Windows 2000 machine (secondary) to print on the printer connected to the main...

Have you installed the printer on the W2K machine? (you know, double clicked the "Add Printer" icon, etc.)

6 posted on 04/11/2005 7:23:15 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Vote for Pedro)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It's been my experience that on win2000 , ME, and 98 that you have to load the printer drivers on the client machine also even tho you have the drivers on the host machine which I assume is the one with the printer attached


7 posted on 04/11/2005 7:24:23 PM PDT by RogerRabbit
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

When I set up my home network sharing one printer I used the sharing function of the router instead of XP. Suggest you go to the web site of your router manufacture and you will find there the easy instructions. I used a SMC router and it was a 4 step process.
Good luck.


8 posted on 04/11/2005 7:24:24 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I suspect you have not set up the printer on the Win2K box as the default printer. Just turning on sharing is not enough.

I think you need to locate the icon for the printer hooked up to the XP box via windows explorer, then set it as the "default".

Maybe go throught the control panel-printers option to do it.

9 posted on 04/11/2005 7:30:20 PM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

You'd get more help if you were a bit more specific about just what's happening and what's not. Saying that it won't print is about as useful as saying "my computer's broke"--it's just a bit vague, given all that can go wrong with a PC. Not trying to be overly critical here, just stating a fact based on my experience working in the field.


10 posted on 04/11/2005 7:33:44 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

HP has a ~"setup network printer utility" you can download. Seems to work fine to find all sorts of printers attached to various computers and to a e'net printer server here at home.


11 posted on 04/11/2005 7:35:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: RogerRabbit

win2000 and win98 yes.

WinXP is a step backwards.

the so called "security" is a pain in the a$$.

you cannot share the drivers from the XP to other machines on your network. you need the cd-rom to install the drivers on the machine you want to print from.

pain. THANK YOU BILL GATES. This isn't progress!


12 posted on 04/11/2005 7:39:27 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Make sure both of your computers are in the same Workgroup. This is done by right clicking on "My Computer" and clicking the Computer Name Tab. If you see that they have something different in the Workgroup Name field, make them apart of the same workgroup by clicking the Change button and entering in the same information in "Workgroup" as the other computer. You will be asked to restart, and when you come back up you should be on the same workgroup.(after it comes back up let it sit there for 5min or so).

Now that they are on the same workgroup go to the PC that has the connected printer you want to share. Go to Start Menu, Settings(in 2k) and Printers. Then a Window will open that will display the printer. Right click on the printer and click Properties. In properties, click the Sharing Tab, and select the button that says "Share this printer", the name will be filled in by default.

Now, go to the computer you want to connect via the network. Go to Start, Printers and Faxes(xp) when the WIndow opens click the Ad Printer icon. You will be then asked a series of questions: Choose Network Printer, then browse for printer. Next you will choose the option to look in your workgroup. You should then see the name of the computer that has the connected printer, double click on the icon and it should expand to reveal the connected printer. Select the printer and hit next, make it default(if you wish) and you are done, of yeah print a test page. Also, remember that the computer that has the printer connected will always have to be on when you want to print from the other PC.

Hope this helps, if I got a couple of steps mixed up I was doing this from memory. Also, disable any firewalls as they may block the protocols that are needed for Windows networking stuff(mine does).
13 posted on 04/11/2005 7:40:51 PM PDT by KoRn (~Halliburton Told Me......)
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To: Jalapeno
I suspect you have not set up the printer on the Win2K box as the default printer. Just turning on sharing is not enough.

Already did that. The printer will not print the document on Word. Comes up with error and deletes job.

14 posted on 04/11/2005 7:41:42 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This worked for me. Create a batch file. (Use note pad, type in this stuff then save as a file called something like printer.bat) Save it on your desktop and then double click on it. Here is the command: net use lpt1: \\XXX\YYY <> rem: run this batch file, then use add - printer wizard and browse for the printer on computer number 2
15 posted on 04/11/2005 7:41:52 PM PDT by cousin01 (Arizona - Good job on Prop 200. Now be prepared to defend it)
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To: KoRn
Also, disable any firewalls as they may block the protocols that are needed for Windows networking stuff(mine does).

Please...how to disable "firewall". Both computers are in the same workgroup already.

16 posted on 04/11/2005 7:43:35 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: cousin01

sorry - reply was truncated.

substitue the NAME of computer 1 for XXX and the NAME of the printer for YYY.

Ignore that <> in the previous reply.


17 posted on 04/11/2005 7:44:48 PM PDT by cousin01 (Arizona - Good job on Prop 200. Now be prepared to defend it)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Did you install the printer software (from CD) on both machines?


18 posted on 04/11/2005 7:47:42 PM PDT by sirjohn
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Do yourself a big favor and instead of sharing the printer, go get one of these, add your printer to the network by following the included directions, then add the printer to each computer:

http://www.newegg.com/app/searchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&Range=1&DEPA=0&bop=and&description=print+server&InnerCata=387

I have the hawking print server myself, best $50 I ever spent. If you don't have a network setup, get the linksys print server that has a built in 4 port hub and set one up already!

Sharing a printer without a print server over a mixed Windows OS Version is very painful. However once you have a print server you have much more freedom, like not having to have both computers turned on the print, like being able to locate your printer wherever your heart, and network cable desires.

I would not go wireless on a printer. File sizes and wireless speeds make this a pain.

my 2 cents

-- lates
-- jrawk


19 posted on 04/11/2005 7:49:18 PM PDT by jrawk (trust but verify)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Now, see, this is why Commander Adama didn't want networked computers aboard his ship.


20 posted on 04/11/2005 7:53:19 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
****This is for the XP computer as they can have enabled firewalls by default****

Go to Start, Settings, Control Panel, and Network Connections.

Right click on the icon that represents your Local Area Connection and click Properties. Then you will see an advanced tab and you should see Windows Firewall and a Settings button. Click the settings button and make sure the firewall is disabled.

This is only for the native XP firewall that came with XP SP1, if there are other firewalls you may have I can't help ya there. Of course all of this is assuming that a firewall is the problem. It's also possible that your router isn't forwarding NETBIOS Traffic on your LAN.
21 posted on 04/11/2005 8:00:42 PM PDT by KoRn (~Halliburton Told Me......)
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To: Brian328i
Have you tried to delete the printer on the Win2k box and then re-add the network printer?

Thanks a million! It worked. I had set up the printer for the W2000 machine when it was ATTACHED to that machine. I needed to "Add Printer" and set it up for the printer on the workgroup network. Thank you very much.

22 posted on 04/11/2005 8:12:40 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Main Computer: First go the control panel, click on network connections, right click the connection and click on properties. Make sure that File and Printer Sharing is enabled. If not you will have to install it.

If it is go to your printer folder on the main computer and right click the printer and check the sharing tab and make sure the printer is set up for sharing, if not enable it and give it a name. In this properties section there is also a place to install additional drivers for your printer for other operating systems, do this since you will be using it on two different systems.

Second Computer: Go to the Printers folder and click on Add printer Icon, set up network printer, follow instructions and browse to the share name you made for the computer on the original machine.

All of this is based on you being able to see the other computer from each other through your Network Places Icon on the desktop

23 posted on 04/11/2005 8:12:40 PM PDT by redcountyrepublican
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Throw it all away and buy a Mac!


24 posted on 04/11/2005 8:15:34 PM PDT by audax
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To: KoRn
Hah. I got this to work. My wife will be so happy she doesn't have to drag her lap top over to the other room, disconnect the existing printer, and hook it up to hers. Had to vary things a bit - printer was on Windows ME and XP was in the other room. Had ZoneAlarm installed on the XP and in the Firewall setting I put the ip address for my ME machine in the trusted zone.

Wow, wonder if this thread will get pulled as it is out of scope?
25 posted on 04/11/2005 9:16:17 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: tscislaw

I think you're right. You need to install the drivers for the printer on the remote computer. And, before Windows xp you needed to "capture" the printer or otherwise select it for use off the list of hardware available for use by the workgroup.

The printer needs to be installed on both computers, the printer needs to be made available for sharing by the host machine, then the printer needs to be selected by the remote computer.


26 posted on 04/12/2005 12:34:27 AM PDT by Banjoguy (Don't be brain dead.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

bttt


27 posted on 04/12/2005 12:42:45 AM PDT by dennisw ("Sursum corda")
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To: George from New England
WinXP is a step backwards.

No.  It's not.  It's the best OS MS has made thus far.  Which in some peoples opinion isn't saying much but, none the less, it IS a step forward from all the previous OSs.

the so called "security" is a pain in the a$$.

Everything's a pain in the ass when you don't know how to use it.  Don't blame MS because you're too lazy to figure it out.  And for God's sake, don't ever try a really secure OS like Unix or Linux.....you'll have an aneurysm.

you cannot share the drivers from the XP to other machines on your network. you need the cd-rom to install the drivers on the machine you want to print from.

Yes, you can.  Provided the printer manufacturer has designed the drivers for XP correctly...and that's hardly MSs problem.  The HP Laserjet 4L is a pretty old printer.  HP has not produced hard-core XP drivers for it.  The Laserjet 1012 on the other hand, was produced with XP in mind.  When you install the driver suite for printers like the 1012, HP adds drivers for other clients to not only connect but download the appropriate driver from the XP client machine.

pain. THANK YOU BILL GATES. This isn't progress!

Yes, it is.

28 posted on 04/12/2005 12:57:02 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (I know a great deal about the Middle East because Ive been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Have you installed the printer drivers on both machines? And make sure both machines are on when printing. Secondary will not be able to access printer if Primary is powered off.


29 posted on 04/12/2005 5:56:18 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Bloody Sam Roberts
Note to self:

Don't be like Lazamataz...read the whole dang thread before replying.

Glad you got it working.

30 posted on 04/12/2005 6:04:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Remember that great love and great achievements involve great risk)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Glad you got it working.

Thank you very much and don't worry about it...I've done the same thing.

31 posted on 04/12/2005 2:11:39 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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