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Hillary losing in senate race to Giuliani
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Posted on 04/12/2005 2:10:32 PM PDT by Patriot814

Giuliani beats her 49% to 47%. 51% say they would definitely vote for her. More people don't want Hillary to run for president than do. Giuliani should reconsider running. for more go here http://www.maristpoll.marist.edu/nyspolls/HC050412.htm


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2006; 2008; 2008willbetoolate; dontunderestimate; electionussenate; giuliani; hillary; marist; notrunning; poll; rudy; saveamerica; stophillary; theterror
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1 posted on 04/12/2005 2:10:33 PM PDT by Patriot814
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To: Patriot814

51% definitely voting for Hillary! and Giuliani wins?


2 posted on 04/12/2005 2:11:26 PM PDT by jra
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To: Patriot814

The race is today? Where do I vote?


3 posted on 04/12/2005 2:12:16 PM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: jra

4 posted on 04/12/2005 2:15:17 PM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: Patriot814

The "let's get behind Hillary" push has begun. One of those 30-minute 'ET' type shows (can't remember the name) was just on...with their afternoon call-in poll. Today's poll question? Should Hillary run for president?


5 posted on 04/12/2005 2:15:37 PM PDT by Maria S
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To: Patriot814

I doubt Giuliani will run in 2006 at this point. I could be wrong, but I don't think he wasnts to run for Senate. He will run for the Presidency however.


6 posted on 04/12/2005 2:16:43 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Patriot814

I'd love to think this seat is winnable. It'd be nice to take out the Dem. frontrunner two years early. I don't think it's going to happen, though.


7 posted on 04/12/2005 2:16:54 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (What're you looking at?)
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To: Patriot814

I'd love to think this seat is winnable. It'd be nice to take out the Dem. frontrunner two years early. I don't think it's going to happen, though.


8 posted on 04/12/2005 2:16:54 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (What're you looking at?)
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To: Maria S

Unfortunately Giuliani wants to run for President. He does not stand a chance of going past the Republican primary.


9 posted on 04/12/2005 2:17:00 PM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


10 posted on 04/12/2005 2:18:46 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: Maria S

It is quite revealing that when you look at the poll results from this Marist group, they asked a question which really cannot be answered..."How would you rate Hitlery's performance"??

How in hell can ANYONE rate the performance of someone who has done NOTHING! and is really just warming a chair in the Senate to be able to say she did it. Just amazing how these pollsters create news -- this poll is a fraud, just like the left, and especially the Marxist Medusa.


11 posted on 04/12/2005 2:19:43 PM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: winner3000
I'm hoping Guilani doesn't run for POTUS. He'd make a great Attorney General though.

At least we don't have to worry about chicken-feces Jeb Bush running yeah!

12 posted on 04/12/2005 2:20:41 PM PDT by ServesURight
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To: Old Sarge
The race is today? Where do I vote?

The headline says that Hillary is LOSING. They've already begun the count. We should have an official winner within a couple of hours.

13 posted on 04/12/2005 2:21:06 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: finnman69

Rudy's really in a bind.

If he doesn't run for the Senate in 2006 ...he won't find the money he'll need from the Republican base to get through the primaries in 2008.

No guts, no chance of glory, Rudy.


14 posted on 04/12/2005 2:21:27 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: finnman69
I doubt Giuliani will run in 2006 at this point. I could be wrong, but I don't think he wasnts to run for Senate. He will run for the Presidency however.

But I think winning a senate race could help him as a presidential candidate especially if he dethroned Hillary. Many people dismiss senators as presidential candidates, because they have experience as legislators but not executives. Giuliani could be an exception, because he has eight years executive experience as mayor of the largest city in the US.

15 posted on 04/12/2005 2:21:45 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: ServesURight
At least we don't have to worry about chicken-feces Jeb Bush running yeah!

You really shouldn't use a chicken-feces attack on Jeb. It's violates the glass house principle.

16 posted on 04/12/2005 2:22:18 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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To: Patriot814
Sounds great to me!!! Hope it comes to be!
17 posted on 04/12/2005 2:24:01 PM PDT by Joee
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To: ServesURight

Jeb is a better man than U R.


18 posted on 04/12/2005 2:24:46 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Maria S

"Get behind Hillary" is faaaar to sick a mental image for any real conservative.... BLEEEEACH!!


19 posted on 04/12/2005 2:27:09 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: winner3000
Unfortunately Giuliani wants to run for President. He does not stand a chance of going past the Republican primary.

You are absolutely correct. Thus far, we have no strong candidate. Running against a woman is going to proove very difficult. Just ask Rick Lazio. The media will make mince meat out of any male who dares to stand up to her. They will lable him a bully, etc., etc., etc. I know I will get flamed for this statement, but I would still rather see Rudy instead of Hillary.

20 posted on 04/12/2005 2:27:32 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: winner3000

We don't need another Bob Dole running this time. Dole was a disaster and makes one wonder what went on besides he "deserved it".


21 posted on 04/12/2005 2:30:17 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Patriot814



Never forget !
22 posted on 04/12/2005 2:31:37 PM PDT by John Lenin (You have to be a loser to keep on losing in new ways)
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To: Patriot814

There was another poll out just a few days ago with her winning by 12%...Do these polling people know what they're doing


23 posted on 04/12/2005 2:31:54 PM PDT by skaterboy (My baby is an American badass)
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To: Echo Talon; ServesURight

Jeb is a better man than U R.

Worth repeating!

24 posted on 04/12/2005 2:32:16 PM PDT by BullDog108 ("Conservatives believe in God. Liberals think they are God." ---Ann Coulter)
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To: BullDog108

Jeb is a better man than U R.


25 posted on 04/12/2005 2:35:54 PM PDT by unkus
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To: ServesURight

Hey! Get with the program. Here's the way it's going to be: Bush, 1988 --Clinton, 1992 and 1996 ---Bush, 2000 and 2004---Clinton, 2008 and 2012 ---(Jeb) Bush 2016 and 2020.

(/sarcasm--I think)


26 posted on 04/12/2005 2:36:41 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: xcamel
"Get behind Hillary" is faaaar to sick a mental image for any real conservative.... BLEEEEACH!!

...And the view is simply AWFUL!!!!!!

27 posted on 04/12/2005 2:40:24 PM PDT by dirtbiker (Solution for Terrorism: Nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

He would be a strnger governor than Senator IMO but he has made it clear he wont run for governor.

Agreed on the primary part, unless he plans on trying to be a VEEP first. Rudy has a Type A leader personality so again, not his first choice.


28 posted on 04/12/2005 2:42:20 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I don't think Guiliani will EVER run for President because he's too liberal. The Repubs have to keep a conservative in place. That's all we need is Guiliani and Hillary running....both with liberal platforms.

But, NY, that's a different story...Rudy should run for Gov or Senate. As long as NYC has this massive liberal population, no election can be "real" in the sense of representing the general populous. It's NYC or bust!!

29 posted on 04/12/2005 2:42:29 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: sarasotarepublican
"Just ask Rick Lazio."

Rick Lazio was a serious disappointment. And I even sent him some money. But I'm afraid lack of any serious Republican candidates for 2006 will mean it's Hillary in 2008 and THAT means .... wow, I'm just gonna HATE living in Singapore as an expat for 4 or 8 years!

"Top Aide Says Giuliani Can't Run for Senate or Gov in 2006

(Albany, N.Y. -AP, April 4, 2005) — Republican Rudolph Giuliani's top political aide said Monday it is not possible for the former New York City mayor to run for governor of New York or challenge U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's re-election bid next year.

But, Anthony Carbonetti cautioned: "Rudy is someone who never says never." "Right now, with all the commitments he has here in maintaining the success of Giuliani Partners and now growing a law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani, I just see the commitment as too great to undertake any sort of run within the next year," Carbonetti told The Associated Press. "It's not possible."

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/apress_040405_giuliani.html

30 posted on 04/12/2005 2:43:55 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: skaterboy

"Creating" poll numbers equates to Florida in 2000.....If Gore has won, why am I going to get out of my comfy chair and run to the polls....APATHY!


31 posted on 04/12/2005 2:45:08 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: winner3000
Unfortunately Giuliani wants to run for President. He does not stand a chance of going past the Republican primary.

Baloney, that's simply wishful thinking on the part of some here.

If he runs, he will be the GOP candidate and beat any Democrat. And the irony is that the more the self-annointed 'voices of social conservatism' trash him, the more the party will move to the center on divisive social issues to maintain a broad enough coalition to win. The bleaters haven't learned a thing from the Terri fiasco, and will only keep shooting themselves in the foot with their vitriolic nonstop purist rants.

I supported DeLay's efforts for Terri, believe that a grave judicial injustice was committed, and strongly support the social conservative position on most issues. But I am also a realist, and understand that political wins involve compromise and coalitions.

32 posted on 04/12/2005 2:45:09 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: finnman69

Rudy's going to have a hard time on the national (Republican) scene if he fails to take on Mrs. Clinton.

Rudy going to the Senate, IMHO, has precious little to do with it.


33 posted on 04/12/2005 2:46:26 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: winner3000
He does not stand a chance of going past the Republican primary.

True, that.

Who is telling him otherwise?

34 posted on 04/12/2005 2:48:18 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
But I think winning a senate race could help him as a presidential candidate especially if he dethroned Hillary.

Of course it would. In fcat it would cement him as a 2008 frontrunner. His entire campaign would be plagued with news stories and talking heads badgering him 'do you promise to serve out your whole term?'

35 posted on 04/12/2005 2:54:07 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Patriot814

Who the hell cares? Rudy's ego is too big for the Senate and Bertha Butt's opponent will likely be Jeannine Pirro or George Patakifeller anyway.


36 posted on 04/12/2005 2:55:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: winner3000
I think you're right. And it's too bad. The one place he could actually do some good, giving Hitlery a run for the money and potentially knocking her out of the senate would be great. But he'll probably pass on that opportunity to run for the Presidency, which he stands no chance of winning.
37 posted on 04/12/2005 3:04:59 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: xcamel

At least you'd have plenty of shade.


38 posted on 04/12/2005 3:05:55 PM PDT by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: jra

Please let this be true. Out damn spot!


39 posted on 04/12/2005 3:11:16 PM PDT by ACDSWIZ
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To: finnman69
I doubt Giuliani will run in 2006 at this point. I could be wrong, but I don't think he wasnts to run for Senate. He will run for the Presidency however.

No party loyalty there. See how this "Two-Party Cartel" is functoining. It's set up for The Hildabeast to fly in to office. And poor Rudy is so dilusional that he thinks we will nominate him.

40 posted on 04/12/2005 3:12:05 PM PDT by Digger
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To: ACDSWIZ

Rudy better bear the Witch. Otherwise she may be returning to the White House. Of course the way Bush has been kissing up to Clinton lately she may return anyway.


41 posted on 04/12/2005 3:13:10 PM PDT by ACDSWIZ
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To: EagleUSA

Bingo. You nailed it.


42 posted on 04/12/2005 3:28:00 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: ServesURight
I'm hoping Guilani doesn't run for POTUS. He'd make a great Attorney General though.

At least we don't have to worry about chicken-feces Jeb Bush running yeah!

And you base your comments on... what?

43 posted on 04/12/2005 3:30:03 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
. But I am also a realist, and understand that political wins involve compromise and coalitions.

Wonder who that man was that said, "Mr Gorbachev, take down that wall" & walked away from him in Reykiavik. Sorry, Diddle but sometimes ya got to stand for ones own principles & quit the compromising. Rudy is not red state material.

44 posted on 04/12/2005 3:31:11 PM PDT by Digger
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Giuliani needs to run for Governor of New York State. He's not a legislator; he just doesn't have the temperment. And it's long past time Pataki got shown the door.


45 posted on 04/12/2005 3:39:18 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: unkus
Jeb is a better man than U R.

I agree. ServesURight is either too young and ignorant of history, or too old to remember it... I really wonder why he made these kinds of statements about Jeb Bush. Jeb is a GOOD man. I'd love to see him run for POTUS; but realistically, he'd never win due to the "Bush Dynasty Sydrome" that the crooks on the Left would cook up.

IMOHO

46 posted on 04/12/2005 3:40:05 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: thoughtomator

From what I understand, Rudy's not going to run for Gov. either.

Somewhere he's gotten the idea that he's got a shot at the Republican nomination in 2008.


47 posted on 04/12/2005 3:42:25 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia

I would probably vote for him, unless someone like Mike Pence was on the ballot. But I don't think he has a prayer to win - a Republican needs the religious vote and Giuliani doesn't have it and can't get it as a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual candidate.


48 posted on 04/12/2005 3:44:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: ServesURight

I wouldn't vote for Jeb Bush either. A President has to act to protect the rights of Americans, not cower behind a tyrannical judiciary.

His chances of getting my vote - ever - died with Terri Schiavo.


49 posted on 04/12/2005 3:45:42 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Somewhere he's gotten the idea that he's got a shot at the Republican nomination in 2008.

If that's true, he needs to be medicated.

The only shot he has at higher office is to run for the Senate. Otherwise, nada...

50 posted on 04/12/2005 3:46:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("It's better to trust in the Lord, than to put confidence in man." -Psalm 118:8)
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