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Bill: Gay GOPer 'self-loathing'
New York Daily News ^ | April 12, 2005 | AUSTIN FENNER

Posted on 04/12/2005 3:25:24 PM PDT by presidio9

Former President Bill Clinton wasn't about to let just anybody attack his wife - especially a gay Republican operative. Clinton fired back yesterday, suggesting that political consultant Arthur Finkelstein, who has launched a "Stop Her Now" campaign, is suffering from "self-loathing."

Finkelstein married his male partner in a civil ceremony in Massachusetts in December, with a few of his conservative clients at the nuptial.

"... He went to Massachusetts and married his longtime male partner and then he comes back here and announces this," Clinton said at a Harlem news conference.

"I thought, one of two things. Either this guy believes his party is not serious, and is totally Machiavellian in his position, or there's some sort of self-loathing there. I was more sad for him."

His decision to bring up Finkelstein's sexuality hearkened back to a similar remark made by John Kerry in an Oct. 13, 2004, presidential debate.

In responding to a question whether homosexuality was a matter of choice, Kerry said, "I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as."

Finkelstein did not return calls for comment.

Republicans believe that if Hillary Clinton can be defeated in her Senate reelection efforts in 2006, it would kill her chances of running for the presidency in 2008.

Her husband appeared in Harlem to announce a $10 million initiative aimed at eradicating HIV/AIDS among children in Africa.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: finkelstein; hillary; x42

Too bad nobody ever instilled a healthy sense of self-loathing in the former First Scumbag.

1 posted on 04/12/2005 3:25:25 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

There is nothing quite as ironic as a prominent Democrat attacking someone's homosexuality.


2 posted on 04/12/2005 3:29:46 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: presidio9

Clinton calling somebody "Machiavellian?" Hilarious. Also, I thought people's private lives were not up for discussion. At least that's what he claimed when this Esquire photo came out.


3 posted on 04/12/2005 3:30:04 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: presidio9

Monica's view


4 posted on 04/12/2005 3:30:57 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: presidio9

Uh, maybe it's "Hillary loathing." Lot of that going around...


5 posted on 04/12/2005 3:32:02 PM PDT by DJ Frisat
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To: presidio9

It looks like I have been wrong. Given the chance to redeem his legacy or promote his witch of a wife for POTUS, he has become the point man and Hillary attack dog.
This gay outing/bashing didn't work for Kerry. It won't work for the Clintons either.
They are out there now trashing gays and gay marriage, but who is going to believe them. All they will do is alienate part of their hard core base.
Anti-gay, anti-abortion Hillary is a figment of Bubba's very sick imagination.
1992/96 slash and burn politics will not work in 2005. The issues are too complex and the stakes are too high


6 posted on 04/12/2005 3:37:04 PM PDT by Cincinna (BEWARE HILLARY and her HINO)
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To: presidio9

Breck-Girl Edwards also brought up Mary Cheney during the Vice-Presidential debate. In both instances Mary's lesbianism was pulled right out of the blue. Everyone with a head on their shoulders knew this was to gratuitously remind the Christian Red-state NASCAR (etc.) voters of the fact (in case they didn't know already) that she was lesbian. All good, lib-dem gays gave them a pass because quite a few of them were already involved in the organized harrassment campaign against her (DearMary.com) to excoriate her for her loyalty to her father.

It's just the good old liberal double-standard, just like the treatment meted out to Condi Rice, Clarence Thomas, etc. Dems have wielded gay innuendo with the best of them. Remember the rumours being daily faxed to the MSM about members of Ken Starr's impeachment team and the impeachment managers staffers during The Year of Monica?


7 posted on 04/12/2005 3:39:53 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: presidio9
I read the article, and I wanted to make the exact comment that you made as the first post. Billyjeff Clinton has no sense of shame, and therefore no (visible) self-loathing. One might argue, however, that his entire career since adolescence is intended to make up for the gross inadequacy of him and his origins,

In any event, since Bill loathes himself inadequately, we can make up for that by being generous in our loathing of him. As one Freeper wrote months ago, "I despised him then. I despise him now. I will despise him until he dies. And then I will despise his memory."

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Billybob's Speech for FR's March for Justice II"

8 posted on 04/12/2005 3:40:14 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: Cincinna

More rumblings from an insignificant President. Pay him no mind.


9 posted on 04/12/2005 3:40:34 PM PDT by libertarianben (Looking for sanity and his hard to find cousin common sense)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Sociopaths are immune to guilt or embarrassment. It's that simple.


10 posted on 04/12/2005 3:42:06 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: presidio9

If there's anyone who should know about self-loathing, it's Billy.


11 posted on 04/12/2005 3:44:30 PM PDT by what's up
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To: presidio9
Too bad nobody ever instilled a healthy sense of self-loathing in the former First Scumbag.

Who says he hasn't got that?

pro·jec·tion Definition 8. Psychology.

1. The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or suppositions to others: “Even trained anthropologists have been guilty of unconscious projectionof clothing the subjects of their research in theories brought with them into the field” (Alex Shoumatoff).
2. The attribution of one's own attitudes, feelings, or desires to someone or something as a naive or unconscious defense against anxiety or guilt.

12 posted on 04/12/2005 3:58:24 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: presidio9

Rush was hilarious today regarding this article. He even did that Clinton voice with a pansie slant - left coffee sprayed on the dashboard.


13 posted on 04/12/2005 4:01:52 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: thoughtomator
If this country wasn't in such a sorry state Bill Clinton would have dropped off the face of the earth many years ago.The white trash low life and his frumpy witch of a wife belonged in an outhouse not the white house.
14 posted on 04/12/2005 4:20:26 PM PDT by rdcorso (In America Criminals Have More Rights Than The Disabled.What A Disgrace)
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To: presidio9

Yes, Bill, no Republican could possibly be openly gay, let alone oppose the prospect of a Hillary! presidency. O Yes! For you see, on Planet Clinton, all gays (and blacks, etc., etc.) who are NOT "self-loathing" know their place and Vote Democrat.


15 posted on 04/12/2005 4:38:38 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: presidio9

Does anyone here realize that the Gay GOP operative that Clinton is ripping, is now married, and opposed to the wife on the man who signed DOMA.


16 posted on 04/12/2005 4:48:33 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: presidio9
Ah, Bill, did you ever hear about a guy named Soros?

Anyway, I think you insult and disrespect your wife with your constant and very public lecherous womanizing.

And, you want to talk about "self-loathing"?

Sir, you are not in any position to discuss marriage.

17 posted on 04/12/2005 8:18:34 PM PDT by harpo11 (Democrat Leaders are a bunch of backseat drivers.-Don't know how to drive, but sure tell us how to.)
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