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Japan: China Is "Scary Country"
CNN ^ | April 12, 2005 | Tara Duffy

Posted on 04/12/2005 4:23:08 PM PDT by srm913

NEW DELHI, India -- China's premier has told Japan to "face up to history," while a top Japanese official has called China "scary" as a war of words simmers following massive protests in the weekend.

The missives on Tuesday came after tens of thousands of Chinese took to the streets on Saturday and Sunday, angry at a new Japanese history book they say fails to admit the extent of Japan's World War II atrocities.

The protests -- which were the largest since 1999 when crowds rallied outside the U.S. Embassy in Beijing when three Chinese were killed in Belgrade -- also targeted Japan's bid to become a permanent U.N. Security Council member.

In the latest flare-up between the two former rivals, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao told reporters in New Delhi on Tuesday that Japan must "face up to history squarely" and that the protests should give Tokyo reason to rethink its bid for a permanent council seat.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Japan
KEYWORDS: china; northeastasia
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Of course, Japan was the scarier of the two in the WWII era.

Now, however, it's a dumb question.

1 posted on 04/12/2005 4:23:08 PM PDT by srm913
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To: Dr. Marten; investigateworld

ping


2 posted on 04/12/2005 4:23:41 PM PDT by srm913
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To: srm913

Thanks, I just finished reading that over at the World Tribune.


3 posted on 04/12/2005 4:26:22 PM PDT by Dr. Marten (gei wo ziyou, haishi gei wo si wan! (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: srm913
"Chinese took to the streets on Saturday and Sunday, angry at a new Japanese history book"

That is rich, aren't the Chinese the ones that howl whenever anyone so much as thinks about telling them what they should do with their internal affairs? They seem to be very free with their demands to have a say in the curriculum of Japanese schools.
4 posted on 04/12/2005 4:32:26 PM PDT by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: srm913
China Is "Scary Country"

I thought that "Scary County" was Massachusetts!

5 posted on 04/12/2005 4:35:41 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: srm913
Chinese Snowman:


Chinese Toilet


China is scary.
6 posted on 04/12/2005 4:45:24 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: srm913

This from a friend in Taiwan:
"The sentiment towards Japan is far more different in the mainland. The CCP are fermentating the hatred toward Japan, and there are lots of "angry young people" want to launch a genocide in Japan. If you have an idea that how Nazis fermentated hatred toward Jews, you'll be afraid of what you see in modern China. Some of they also want to kill all Taiwanese, too. These people are much more resemblent to Nazis than commies."


7 posted on 04/12/2005 4:51:12 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77
".......These people are much more resemblent to Nazis than commies."

If there was once a difference between Communists and the National Socialists, it was that the Communists believed in total government control of the economy while the Nazis realized that some degree of free market competition (that the Government could take away if the need arose) resulted in a much more vigorous economy.

The Chinese long ago completed the Final Solution against it's own internal enemies and have now adopted the more productive National Socialist economic view.

There is little difference between what Communist China is now and what Nazi Germany would have been if it had survived into the 21st Century

8 posted on 04/12/2005 5:09:04 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: struggle

" China is scary. "

Hey , at least it flushes . There are folks in the Japanese countryside who just have a hole in floor ! Most towns in the countryside still don't have sewer systems ! This in a country that is the second wealthiest in the world !


9 posted on 04/12/2005 5:12:58 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: ProudVet77
These people are much more resemblent to Nazis than commies

Yep. He nailed it right on.

10 posted on 04/12/2005 5:17:55 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: struggle

I've seen the same sort of "toilets" in
Europe ( in Italy and Germany ).


11 posted on 04/12/2005 5:20:54 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: struggle

Hey at least that one has a door your can shut. Was in a factory once, where they simply had a row of those suckers, with no partitions. And the cleaning ladies still came in unannouced! >:o


12 posted on 04/12/2005 5:37:14 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Paul_Denton

My friend was a 2nd Lt in the ROC Army. Pretty preceptive guy. He has some valuable insights we don't ever get to hear in the West. Things sound like they are getting pretty unstable over there. A few years from real trouble.


13 posted on 04/12/2005 5:38:21 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77; Dr. Marten; Jeff Head

RE: If you have an idea that how Nazis fermentated hatred toward Jews, you'll be afraid of what you see in modern China. Some of they also want to kill all Taiwanese, too.

Indeed, those who are fomenting ethno-racial hatred of the Japanese also have started to say things such as "the Taiduists participated in the Rape of Nanjing!" Tell a lie often enough ... we are witnessing monsterous history developing before our very eyes,


14 posted on 04/12/2005 5:39:32 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Thank God Dubya is at the helm right now.
And for those that disparage the Pentagon/CNO for gutting the Navy, I refer you to: http://www.fas.org/man/crs/RL32109.pdf
It's a length PDF but worth the read. They are fast tracking as many systems that will do the most good if the spam hits the fan over there. Particularly the LCS.


15 posted on 04/12/2005 5:47:15 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77

The weight is on the shoulders of the Navy these days. No doubt.


16 posted on 04/12/2005 5:52:39 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD
Well, if/when the ChiComs attack Taiwan, the USAF will play a big role in the first 24 hrs. PACAF has about 300 fighters within 10 hrs of the strait (some as close as 30 minutes, average 4 hrs) as well as bombers 3 hrs away in Guam. Initially the Navy will only have the Kitty Hawk air group Carrier Air Wing 5 which is shore based in Atsugi Japan, near Tokyo, and the Marines have 1st Marine Air Wing out of Iwakuni and Okinowa. All told we have 400+ fighters with combat proven aircraft, systems and pilots.
The gray Navy, other than subs, if in port won't make it for 12-36 hrs, but they will arrive in style with 6-10 Aegis class warships, which are tremendous AAW ships.
17 posted on 04/12/2005 6:11:26 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: srm913

This is an interesting confrontation. There is only one dog that can win, but they both will be barkin right down to the wire.


18 posted on 04/12/2005 6:17:15 PM PDT by jolie560
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To: StormEye

In Turkey, too.


19 posted on 04/12/2005 6:19:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: ProudVet77

I have not read that yet, but, you are saying we are catching up , for the irresponsible derelict of duty by the Clinton Administration ?


20 posted on 04/12/2005 6:22:20 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: ProudVet77

Yeah. I fear for Taiwan. Not only for its security as a whole but the KMT + PFP alliance which is all too similar to our own democratic left. Lein Chan and that other guy were breaking their own laws when traveling to the PRC and it is belived that the KMT has a pact of sorts with the PRC. I just hope the DPP and TSU can contain their enemies within, pass that military budget and get their factories working overtime to produce as many of their new Hsiung Feng III (missile that outperforms the Sunburn) as possible in a short amount of time.


21 posted on 04/12/2005 6:22:27 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: ProudVet77
Can anyone tell me ( forgive me of my ignorance ) what does " BLUE NAVY " mean ? and what does Gray Navy mean ?
22 posted on 04/12/2005 6:26:31 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: srm913
Scary
23 posted on 04/12/2005 6:27:39 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: jolie560

Yes, until either, or, one side lights up the birthday candles.


24 posted on 04/12/2005 6:28:13 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
While Clintoon reduced the size of the military and did a lot of stupid things, oddly enough most of the DARPA projects that are baring fruit right now, like UAVs and smart weapons like JDAM and AMSTE were actually started under Cohen. I doubt that BJ even knew what was going on, but Cohen appears to have done a good job in most areas, unless the military was slick enough to fool him too.
25 posted on 04/12/2005 6:35:30 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: srm913

i love it.

the japanese are going to start to energize.


26 posted on 04/12/2005 6:39:30 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Blue Water refers to deep water Navy, mid Atlantic for example. Littoral Navy refers to close to the coast. Brown Water Navy (sometimes referrred to as green Navy) is inland rivers. Look at my profile and you'll see example of Brown water and Blue water Navy.
Gray Navy is the same as Blue Water, it's just referring to the color of the ships, haze gray. The term is usually only used by former Brown water navy types ;) (as a pejorative!)


27 posted on 04/12/2005 6:39:59 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77
I guess those Black projects and budgets came in handy after all.
We need to give notice to all of the DARPA and Black projects people, to get these things out the door and online and running in service as soon as practical, like yesterday.
28 posted on 04/12/2005 6:41:13 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

They are. Rumsfeld is really pushing it. That is why he delayed $$s for a carrier for a year, and reduced the DD(X) and CG(X) budgets. They are cranking up on UAVs like it's going out of style.


29 posted on 04/12/2005 6:44:32 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77

I had one student at my university who was Taiwanese and who had lived most of his life in Japan and he hated the Chinese government with a passion. The Taiwanese know that the Chinese use the most blatent of double standards in the indoctination of their students: They decry the Japanese for not mentioning various atrocities (Nanking, etc) in Japanese textbooks, yet their texts actually tell children to hate groups such as the Japanese, the Falun Gong, and so on.

Furthermore, books authored by Chinese that simply state that Chinese should learn more about modern Japan before they automatically hate the country are pulled from circulation.

The Chinese gov't has successfully challenged the angers and frustrations of the unfree Chinese populace for now, but once Japan stops being a scapegoat for every wrong tha Chinese gov't does, look out world.


30 posted on 04/12/2005 6:46:27 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: ProudVet77
So,,, really, the only country that has a effective Blue water Navy, Brown water Navy is the USA ?
I don't remember were I got this statement from, but, I was reading a article onetime.
This person meet Collen Powell at a party, and he asked Collen Powell ( I guess he was still CH of joints chiefs of staff )" who has the most strongest, most powerful military in the world ? " and Collen Powell said " We do ".
And then, this person said, then, " who ranks closest in line to our military in the world ? " and Collen Powell said, that the next country that ranks next to ours in military strength , ranks, 7 th in the world.
But, that was a few years ago, and I sure hope the USA has made great strides in keeping up way ahead of other countries in military strength, and keeping our techeknowligal edge.
31 posted on 04/12/2005 6:51:05 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: srm913
Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao told reporters in New Delhi on Tuesday that Japan must "face up to history squarely" and that the protests should give Tokyo reason to rethink its bid for a permanent council seat.

This is the real reason. The Chinese don't want the Japanese to have a permanent seat on the Security Council. Japan contibutes almost 20% ($321,091,920) of the total UN regular budget and China contributes 2% ($33,860,782).

The Chinese seat used to be held by Nationalist China (ROC) until it was turned over to the Communists (PRC)on November 21, 1971. The Republic of China (ROC) was one of the founding members of the United Nations and a permanent member of the Security Council from its creation in 1945.

We should never have agreed to the One China policy.

32 posted on 04/12/2005 6:52:41 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

We're still #1. We have a very powerful Blue Water Navy, but we need to catch up on the littoral side. Certain countries like Denmark and Sweeden due to their geographies have only littoral Navies. But we'd still kick their butts in littoral warfare because we'd use airplanes. But it's important we build a littoral Naval force as that is where the action will most likely be next. And ships have staying power, planes can only attack and then fly home. We can do the job now, but we don't believe in even fights. Better to use overwhelming force. Which was the point of Colin Powells remarks. I'd say 2nd best is England, 3rd is Japan.
But the Brits only have 2 small carriers, we have 12 huge ones. So I guess they rank #7.
(The brown water Navy has pretty much been taken over by the Marines in Iraq. Navy guys are not as good at Marines with small weapons. I'm glad to see them do it.)


33 posted on 04/12/2005 7:03:03 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77

It's too late for Taiwan, Republic of China. Their business men have already shifted or are actively planning to shift their money and industries to Mainland. The current president and his DPP party look awfully confused as to what to do.


34 posted on 04/12/2005 7:13:23 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: ProudVet77
You mean to tell me ? that England or Japan has a more powerful military than even Russia ? or China ? or is it ? they have a stronger Navy than Russia ? or China ?
Other than Russia and China having nukes, they don't have squat, right ?
So the great equalizer is the USA, with our nukes, but, if it were to escalate to that point of a large nuclear war, what difference does it make, if we have ( correct me on these figures ) 20,000-3,000 nuke warheads, to China's 500-1000 nuke warheads , or Russia's 10,000-3,000 nuke warheads ) all of us will be annihilated.
35 posted on 04/12/2005 7:14:45 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Fishing-guy

Do you have any links to stories that verify this?


36 posted on 04/12/2005 7:16:58 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: srm913
China is assuming that Japan will be like Taiwan in that we wouldn't do anything if they were attacked.

They are either getting very stupid or very desperate over there, and niether one is good. I'm also concerned about India, as a country that we should have on our side, they seem to be putting themselves in a real bind by listening to China's overtures.

37 posted on 04/12/2005 7:27:59 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

I was speaking in term of non nuclear Navies. Russia's Navy is pretty beat up at this point and no longer an issue.
China's navy is largely made up of junk. They have a handful of decent ships that they have purchased from Russia, but the rest is pretty said. I'm not as sure of airforces. I know we are #1 by far, 2nd might be Japan or england or france, not really sure. The chicom airforce has a lot of planes, but about 1/2 of them are 70s vintage Mig 21s that aren't even able to be refuelled in air. They have no functioning AWACs or in air refuelers. They do have some decent aircraft that they bought from Russia, but again it's only about 10-20% of their air force. Can't speak to the strength of the russian airforce, on paper their planes look ok but few have flown in combat, and I don't know numbers. They are having all kinds of issues with troops, and a lot of financial problems within their military. Here's a link to some chicom af data.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/plaaf-equip.htm


38 posted on 04/12/2005 7:30:27 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77

Let's just hope, that claimer heard in China prevail, or a overthrow ( we don't know how dangerous that could be ) of the communist government in China by pro-American forces/Pro-REAL Democracy forces, and it looks as though, now is the time for that to happen.


39 posted on 04/12/2005 7:37:17 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: ProudVet77
Looks like the article I was looking at few weeks ago no longer exists. As I recalled, it basically said that Taiwan has already invested 100 billion US dollars on mainland, and there are around one million Taiwanese living there.

The high tech and medium-size businesses are lobbying for greater freedom to invest on mainland, which the government has so far put a limit on. The reasons they are moving to mainland are the same as US companies are moving there, that is the bottom line.

At the same time, the communist government is telling these business men that either they parrot the communist party line or they can go back to Taiwan, without their investments, of course.
40 posted on 04/12/2005 7:58:08 PM PDT by Fishing-guy
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To: Fishing-guy

If you find something that reports it again let me know. It flies in the face of everything else I've ever read.


41 posted on 04/12/2005 8:00:17 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: struggle

42 posted on 04/12/2005 8:05:29 PM PDT by traumer
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To: srm913

and what is Japan going to do to prepare for the eventual war?


43 posted on 04/12/2005 8:10:01 PM PDT by Tiger Smack (http://www.tigersmack.com <------- for LSU & SEC sports/news/politics)
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To: Fishing-guy

This the article? Seems close, but differs in details.
http://www.agenceglobal.com/article.asp?id=202

China’s New Squeeze On Taiwan Investments
by Paul Denlinger Released: 12 Aug 2004



Following the inauguration of Taiwan president Chen Shui-bian on May 20, the Chinese government has turned the screws on corporations with investments in China that favor Taiwan independence. These so-called green corporations derive their name from the color associated with the pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party in Taiwan.

Companies which have donated funds to aid Chen’s re-election, or have taken a stand favoring Chen, have had investment loans denied after initial approval in the past months. The best-publicized case has been an investment made by the Chi-Mei Group in a petrochemical plant in Zhenjiang. The chairman of the group, Hsu Wen-lung (Xu Wenlong), has been an outspoken supporter of Li Teng-huei, Taiwan’s president until 2000, a strong independence advocate.

The Chi-Mei Group has said that Hsu, who is 78 years old, is now retired and does not manage the day-to-day affairs of the group. But Chinese papers say that Hsu continues to make major business decisions. The Chinese media have publicly stated that the government will no longer allow pro-independence Taiwan business groups to invest in China and repatriate their money to Taiwan to finance pro-independence activities.

Pro-independence business groups and politicians have said that Taiwan companies will invest elsewhere. The question is, with all the interest for investment in China, where will they go? Nobody seems to have an answer.

Chen, who serves concurrently as president of Taiwan, and as chairman of the pro-independence Democratic Progressive Party, has actively pushed his pro-independence line with the encouragement of the former U.S. representative to Taiwan, Therese Shaheen. In the period up to the election on March 20, Shaheen told Chen on more than one occasions that President Bush is the “guardian angel of Taiwan.”

Chen took this to mean that the U.S. was the ultimate guarantor of Taiwan independence, and that the U.S. was willing to use U.S. military forces to guarantee Taiwan’s push for international recognition. For this reason, Chen deferred purchases of more than U.S.$20 billion of U.S. weapons approved by President Bush in 2001, stating that since the U.S. would come to Taiwan’s aid, there was no need to buy the weapons.

China’s mistrust of U.S. foreign policy wasn’t helped by the fact that Shaheen is the wife of Lawrence di Rita, spokesperson for the Pentagon and close associate of U.S. defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld. The message to the Chinese was that hawks in the U.S. Defense Department would push for U.S. military intervention to protect Taiwan. Earlier on, President Bush was angered when he had to personally re-affirm to Chinese premier Wen Jiabao that the U.S. was committed to the “One-China policy,” in front of the U.S. and international press.

The only way for Bush to remove doubts about his commitment to a one-China policy was to insist on the removal of Shaheen in early April, before she could attend Chen’s inauguration.

Following Chen’s inauguration, the dialogue between China and Taiwan shifted. Before the election, it was Chen who was pressing for independence so that he could get votes from his pro-independence base in southern and central Taiwan. Taipei and northern Taiwan have consistently voted to maintain the current status.

But now that Chen has taken the election, China’s anti-Taiwan independence position has increased in volume and dominance. Most of the rhetoric has been directed inwards at the Chinese population, telling them how Taiwan independence is a “disaster for all Chinese everywhere.” Above all, the statements, which come from party, government and military sources, re-affirm why Taiwan independence must be stopped by all means, even if they adversely affect the economy and Beijing’s hosting of the 2008 Olympics.

This puts Taiwan businesses in China in a special bind, since they have made more than U.S.$30 billion of investments in China since the early 1990s. Before, all of their investments were welcomed with open arms, without any questions asked. Now, they are being asked to “biaotai”, or state their positions with regard to Taiwan independence, long after their investments have been established.

The rationale for this is obvious: it is to destroy the financial backing for Taiwan independence among Taiwan businesses, and to force Taiwan company investments already made in China to take an open position against independence.

Chen’s administration already feels the pressure, and after his inauguration has forced approval of the U.S.$20 billion arms package from the U.S. through Taiwan’s legislature, and which President Bush approved in 2001.

The squeeze is on.


44 posted on 04/12/2005 8:14:35 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: ProudVet77

Take into consideration that this article was written by AgenceGlobal which is owned by "The Nation". "The Nation provides regular commentary from the leading progressive thinkers, including Noam Chomsky, Gore Vidal, Arthur Miller, Jeremy Rifkin, Jonathan Schell, Arundhati Roy


45 posted on 04/12/2005 8:18:36 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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To: struggle

What's scary is that's an excellent toilet by Chinese standards.
I was once squatting over one of those when a rat wriggled out the hole and ran between my feet.


46 posted on 04/12/2005 8:28:28 PM PDT by srm913
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

I am not sure what to say about the comparison, but at least Japan as 4 (and several more to be built) AEGIS ships, second to none from United States (The only other country with AEGIS is Spain). Well, if you talk about submarines and air craft carriers, Japan does not have them.


47 posted on 04/12/2005 10:01:35 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Where some of that money went.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7255
Autonomous military satellite to inspect others in orbit
10:49 12 April 2005
NewScientist.com news service
Kelly Young
The US Air Force has launched a micro-satellite that could lead to an autonomous robotic mechanic that fixes satellites in orbit. The launch is the first of two such technology-demonstration satellites to lift off this week.

The 138-kilogram XSS-11 - which stands for Experimental Spacecraft Systems 11 - blasted off at 0635 PDT (1435 GMT) on Monday from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, US, aboard a Minotaur rocket.

“Nobody’s ever done anything like this in space,” says Vernon Baker, XSS-11 programme manager at the Space Vehicles Directorate at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico, US. He says developing an ability to inspect or repair in orbit will significantly lower the cost of running satellites.

During its mission, the XSS-11 craft will approach dead or unused US satellites or old rocket parts. At each rendezvous, the Air Force satellite will burn its engines to move around the object while taking a range of pictures.

Normally, ground controllers instruct a satellite when to fire its engines. But, after a commissioning and testing phase, XSS-11 will only take instruction on where to find a dead satellite. Then, with its on-board planner, it will calculate when to burn its engines.

Anti-satellite weapon
During its lifetime, XSS-11 will rendezvous with six to eight objects, the first of which will probably be the upper stage of the Minotaur rocket that carried it into space. The Air Force wants to be able to service and inspect military satellites in space.

However, Theresa Hitchens, vice president for the Center for Defense Information, a think-tank in Washington, DC, says that the XSS-11 satellite could be the predecessor for a space-based weapon. If a micro-satellite could approach other satellites, she says, it could also adjust its speed and ram into the satellite, damaging it or knocking it off course. And smaller satellites are more difficult to detect from the ground. But officially, the US Air Force has no offensive satellite weapons program.

NASA is also interested in using such technology for a Mars-sample-return mission, so that a lander would be able to dock autonomously with a mother ship after a visit to the surface. Spacecraft autonomy is one of the requirements for President George W Bush’s plan for human missions to the Moon and Mars.

Another autonomous spacecraft, NASA’s Demonstration of Autonomous Rendezvous Technology (DART) satellite, is scheduled for take-off on a Pegasus rocket on 15 April. It too will make its own approach to a satellite, testing techniques required to dock on auto-pilot.

After some costly delays, DART ended up costing $110 million. “It’s a much simpler mission,” Baker told New Scientist. It is expected to operate for about 24 hours. The Air Force expects the XSS-11 to operate for between 12 and 18 months and its final cost is $80 million. It weighs about half as much as the DART satellite.


48 posted on 04/12/2005 11:33:41 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty season!)
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Thanks for that explanation. I had wondered what that meant also.


49 posted on 04/13/2005 4:15:12 AM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: lightingguy

Interesting China thread ping


50 posted on 04/13/2005 4:27:37 AM PDT by agrace (All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen. - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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