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HE'S THE MOUTH THAT ROARS (Liberal NY Daily News SLAPS Bill Clinton!)
NY Daily News ^ | 4/13/05

Posted on 04/13/2005 6:48:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone

When Bill Clinton starts talking politics, it usually pays to listen. But the only point he made with an outburst Monday was to prove that somebody ought to put a sock in the former First Mouth.

In a cheap shot that set a new low for ex-Presidents, Clinton said a gay Republican strategist who recently married his male partner "may be blinded by self-loathing."

Clinton's target was Arthur Finkelstein, a GOP operative who helped elect candidates from George Pataki to Jesse Helms. Last week it was reported the reclusive Finkelstein had quietly married his partner several months ago in Massachusetts, which permits same-sex marriage.

The nuptial news came as Finkelstein is organizing an effort to defeat Sen. Hillary Clinton next year. Bill Clinton no doubt thought he was being clever by linking Finkelstein's private life to his political career and using the combo to bash the poor fellow over the head - all to Hillary's benefit.

The bashing does remind Finkelstein and the rest of us of Rule No. 1 in ClintonWorld: Only Bill Clinton may humiliate his wife.

You don't need a shrink's license to believe his fake chivalry is all about his own skirt-chasing guilt. In fact, the last thing Hillary Clinton needs is to look like she needs him to defend her. If she can't defend herself, she doesn't belong in the Senate and has no business running for President.

In other words, buzz off, Bubba.

But Bubba can't buzz off. It's always about him. What he says, what he wants, who he wants.

Yet this one is a head-scratcher, because there is no obvious upside. Even in the cold calculus of politics, the Finkelstein smear smells like a clumsy mistake.

First, Clinton must know that one of the most destructive stereotypes about minorities is that they are all expected to behave and believe one way. Black Republicans get this all the time - the charge they are "not authentic" blacks because most blacks are Democrats and believe in big government. That expectation played out in ugly fashion when Harry Belafonte, an entertainer, called Colin Powell - war hero, secretary of state - an "Uncle Tom" who did "his master's bidding."

Belafonte's only standing to make such a charge was that he, like most black politicians, was against the Iraq war. Thus, "real" blacks should have been against the war. Clinton apparently now proposes a similar litmus test for gays - they must support only candidates who support gay marriage.

But even that conflicts with Clinton's own shiftiness on gay marriage. As Newsweek reported, Clinton advised John Kerry last year to support the same-sex bans on the ballots in 11 states. Clinton thought Kerry could win those states by supporting the bans.

Even Kerry, no stranger to flip-flopping, was shocked at the advice. "I'm not ever going to do that," he told his staff.

So what is Bubba up to? Besides snuggling up to the Bushes whenever he gets a chance, campaigning for a Nobel Prize and hoping to be secretary general of the UN?

Maybe nothing more. Maybe he's losing his touch. Sometimes smart people do stupid things. Or as Finkelstein friend Michael McKeon deftly put it: "It's really beneath a former President to comment on someone's personal life like that. After everything he has been through in his own life, you'd think he'd know better."

Yes, you'd think.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: finkelstein; x42

1 posted on 04/13/2005 6:48:16 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

When I saw that Mouth That Roared headline, I thought they were going to write about Chris Mouthphews of PMSNBC.


2 posted on 04/13/2005 6:52:06 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: areafiftyone

If Clinton wants to bash queers, maybe he should include his so-called wife -- equal treatment under the law, right??? My God, what loathsome people!


3 posted on 04/13/2005 6:52:46 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: areafiftyone

Hey! Even I like to snuggle up to a Bush once in a while.


4 posted on 04/13/2005 6:53:25 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: areafiftyone

LOL! All I can sit here and do is laugh. If anyone that thought Bill was going to really back Hillary in a run for President, then I have some swamp land for sale in Arizona. Never was going to happen. He will continue to find ways to undermine her IMHO which is great for our side.


5 posted on 04/13/2005 6:53:30 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- J.C. for Oklahoma Governor -- Run J.C. Run)
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To: areafiftyone
a cheap shot that set a new low for ex-Presidents

With J.C. Superstar still kickin' around, that takes some doing.

6 posted on 04/13/2005 6:53:46 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: EagleUSA

I am blinded by Clinton-loathing.


7 posted on 04/13/2005 6:53:57 AM PDT by ReadyNow
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To: areafiftyone
Maybe he's losing his touch. Sometimes smart people do stupid things

I've never understood why the Clinton's are perceived as "brilliant". They sure seem to do and to say stupid things with great regularity.

8 posted on 04/13/2005 6:54:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: areafiftyone

I remember a time when Tony Blankley told Eleanor Clift that Bill Clinton could shoot a little old lady on the street and some people in the press would defend Clinton by saying that "the little old lady had to die sometime, anyway". Clinton will continue to make an ass of himself and the MSM will either ignore it or pooh-pooh it. The Fems didn't care about what he did. Pigs is Pigs, I guess.


9 posted on 04/13/2005 6:55:14 AM PDT by unkus
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To: ReadyNow; backhoe

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10 posted on 04/13/2005 6:58:33 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: areafiftyone

Clinton can do no wrong, according to the liberals. Therefore, he gets a free pass on everything he says and does. Liberals hate this Republican gay man, because he is good at cleaning their clocks. So he is fair game for the scum, and they will back Clinton every time.


11 posted on 04/13/2005 6:59:08 AM PDT by swampfox98 (Michael Reagan: "It's time to stop the flood.")
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To: areafiftyone

Ummm, the Daily News isn't the liberal rag, yer thinking of the Times.


12 posted on 04/13/2005 7:02:53 AM PDT by FCVMCT
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To: areafiftyone
"It's really beneath a former President to comment on someone's personal life like that. After everything he has been through in his own life, you'd think he'd know better."

This statement assumes that the person in question has some sense of morality and connection to other human beings, and understands that rushing to judgement is wrong because we have all sinned. Clinton, as the article points out, simply is too narcisstic. He can't see beyond his own needs.

13 posted on 04/13/2005 7:03:34 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: ClearCase_guy
I've never understood why the Clinton's are perceived as "brilliant".

In the first place Bill & Hill have told everyone constantly how intelligent they are and their sick-o-pants have repeated the theme ad nauseum to the point of kinetic overload of two blivets.

Neither are brilliant.
Both are accomplished
Con-artists.

I cannot describe how much I loathe the Clintons and each and every one of their toadys.

14 posted on 04/13/2005 7:05:28 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: areafiftyone

The Klinton's can do and say just about anything and their defenders will love them all the more.


15 posted on 04/13/2005 7:05:39 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: swampfox98

Don't think Clinton is going to get away with too much this time around. First of all Liberals hate gay bashing and that is exactly what Clinton did even if the gay person happens to be a Republican. Another thing NYers hate is the U.N. and Clinton sucking up for a post a the U.N. which most NYers would rather be rid of - does not make them very happy with him. Clinton will be sticking his foot in his mouth alot more often because he is pushing Hillary to run for president. Even though he says she is concentrating on her Senate run, they both know that she is going to win it without even having to bat an eye. The real prize is to get back in the White House.


16 posted on 04/13/2005 7:05:41 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: areafiftyone
"It's really beneath a former President to comment on someone's personal life like that."

Name it and Clinton is "beneath it."

17 posted on 04/13/2005 7:06:18 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: areafiftyone
In a cheap shot that set a new low for ex-Presidents, Clinton said...

I'm not so sure that any ex-president could go lower than Carter.

18 posted on 04/13/2005 7:12:02 AM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: areafiftyone

thanks for posting this article, areafiftyone. It warms my heart to know that what goes around, actually does come around.


19 posted on 04/13/2005 7:12:48 AM PDT by peacebaby (I'm regaining my inner peace today, and won't let anyone take it away.)
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To: peacebaby

I was kinda shocked that the NY Daily News would slam Clinton but it put a smile on my face to read it this morning!


20 posted on 04/13/2005 7:14:02 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: EagleUSA
I think it shows the true colors of most Dem's, nobody really finds homosexuality acceptable. But shame on the former president for being so disrespectful. I am not sure which is worse, Bubba gay slip up or Kerry's on Mary Cheney, they are definitely cut from the same cloth.
21 posted on 04/13/2005 7:15:07 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Bahbah

I AM THE CLINTON-MINER. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BENEATH YOU, BUT NOTHING IS BENEATH ME!


22 posted on 04/13/2005 7:16:13 AM PDT by MortMan (Quiet reflection does not involve a mirror.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

they are definitely cut from the same cloth.
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Yes they are, and history will show they both were responsible for taking politics in U.S. government to dispicable record lows ---


23 posted on 04/13/2005 7:18:14 AM PDT by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: areafiftyone; FCVMCT

so is the NY Daily News more conservative or more liberal leaning?


24 posted on 04/13/2005 7:19:22 AM PDT by peacebaby (I'm regaining my inner peace today, and won't let anyone take it away.)
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To: peacebaby

Here in NYC the three liberal papers are the NY Times, NY Daily News and the Village Voice. The conservative papers are the NY Post and the NY Sun. The NY Sun has a very small circulation and the Village Voice only comes out on Wednesdays and is free.


25 posted on 04/13/2005 7:23:19 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: areafiftyone

That the NY Daily News posted this article is most significant. Is the NY Daily News fair-weather friends only? Did Bill do something to tick them off? Or is the sentiment of the NY Daily News sincere?

It will be interesting to see if more articles of this nature by liberal MSM pop up.


26 posted on 04/13/2005 7:27:33 AM PDT by peacebaby (I'm regaining my inner peace today, and won't let anyone take it away.)
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To: areafiftyone

This is an interesting data point for Left-ologists to ponder. Apparently gays, even Republican ones, trump Clinton. What to make of it...?


27 posted on 04/13/2005 7:28:31 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck
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To: peacebaby

Hmmmm I wonder if the NY Slimes has anything to say about this. On second thought, probably not. They love Bubba and the Witch!


28 posted on 04/13/2005 7:32:00 AM PDT by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: areafiftyone
Black Republicans get this all the time - the charge they are "not authentic" blacks because most blacks are Democrats and believe in big government. That expectation played out in ugly fashion when Harry Belafonte, an entertainer, called Colin Powell - war hero, secretary of state - an "Uncle Tom" who did "his master's bidding."

Whoa.... The New York DAILY NEWS wrote this???

29 posted on 04/13/2005 7:35:42 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: areafiftyone
Tht "liberal" Daily News is not so liberal by NYC standards, say compared to the Times. Or at least not party-liners.
30 posted on 04/13/2005 7:37:02 AM PDT by Salman
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To: harrowup

LMAO!! Big bump to that, I must say!


31 posted on 04/13/2005 7:44:02 AM PDT by lilmsdangrus (hard work musta hurt somebody, somewhere....)
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To: areafiftyone
"Sometimes smart people do stupid things."

Clingon ain't smart!

Cunning, yes, but not smart!

32 posted on 04/13/2005 7:48:09 AM PDT by nightdriver
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To: Piquaboy
Hey! Even I like to snuggle up to a Bush once in a while.

You have so much in common with Hillary!, yet you oppose her?
33 posted on 04/13/2005 7:50:50 AM PDT by Norman Conquest (Kerry "honors a faith tradition." Bush believes in "God." You do the math.)
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To: Norman Conquest; cardinal4

So, Bill Clinton says that the guy is a self-loathing gay man. And judging by his last name, can we assume that he is what Godzillary would call an "F'n Jew B*****d?" The poor guy was double timed.


34 posted on 04/13/2005 7:58:50 AM PDT by Ax ( iumentum sum)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Another myth created and propagated by the MSM. IMHO, the clintons are dumb as rocks, but they are as ruthless as Al Capone when it comes to their personal aggrandizement. This combination makes them dangerous.


35 posted on 04/13/2005 8:15:03 AM PDT by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: areafiftyone
You don't need a shrink's license to believe his fake chivalry is all about his own skirt-chasing guilt.

Slick has no feelings of guilt. Like all liberals, he is amoral. They seem to have certain moral standards, like rights for every group they can isolate except conservatives, because they will skew anything to try to nail a Republican and/or conservative. When they throw a big hissy fit over some pretended slight to women, blacks, homos, children, the handicapped, the poor, the elderly, etc., it is just to blast their opposition and cast them as uncaring and mean. The assumption is that because of their opposition to the other side and their grand huff over something they made up, they feel the opposite. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Just as many of us attribute human qualities to animals, we also attribute moral qualities to liberals. That is a mistake. Morals to liberals are like the SS trust fund, non existent. The SS scam is a good metaphor for liberals in general.

36 posted on 04/13/2005 8:17:17 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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ping


37 posted on 04/13/2005 8:20:08 AM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: Steven Scharf

This reminded my of Kerry and his comments about Cheney's daughter being gay during the campaign. I don't get what is so brilliant about the Clinton's. She hasn't done anything on her own and he's just a very polished politician. How I wish they would both go away. I sure as hell hope Chelsea doesn't enter politics! I can't take anymore of how brilliant they all are!


38 posted on 04/13/2005 8:25:43 AM PDT by LYSandra
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To: lilmsdangrus

Thanks, I shall not rest until the names associated with the clinton mafia are listed as synonyms for the plague or at least swine flu.


39 posted on 04/13/2005 8:36:18 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup

"Clumsy mistake"

I'm sure if a conservative had uttered the same phrase, they'd also call the gaff a "clumsy mistake" </sarcasm>


40 posted on 04/13/2005 9:17:13 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman
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To: ClearCase_guy

Thank you!

It seems even so many conservatives are enamored of Hillary that they cannot see this woman isn't the threat she's been made out to be. At least not on her own. She's a fighter, I'll give her that much. Isn't enough. She isn't likeable, she is a poor speaker, she's dependant on her husband's name to get anywhere, and while she may be as smart as the average person on the street, the real brains are the ones that have surrounded the Clinton's.

Now it could be said the last is a complaint registered against Bush. The problem is that in Hill's case it happens to be true. She has drive, ambition and instincts for survival. She attached herself to the movers and shakers of the Liberal movement from youth to middle age. She's no more, no less, a parasite.

Cut off the Clinton name. Cut off Clinton's top advisors. And she has nothing. If ever there was proof of this it is in their need to monitor her every speech and every movement. Bush speaks off the cuff and proves quick witted. She speaks off the cuff and we get memorable moments like "We have a right to debate and to disagree with any administration!!"

I will admit that I believe Bill Clinton to be intelligent. Not the smartest man in the world, but I do believe he's far more intelligent than she. Clnton's main fault is that he is driven to excess. Vanity.

Anyway, I'm not surprised the Libs are ticked off at Clinton. he spent the last week making a fool of himself across the world. This in comparison to Bush who quietly illustrated grace and strength. Bill hurts Hillary's chances. And yet, it would hurt Hill to not have Bill. She's be nothing without the name. It's an interesting dilimma for them.


41 posted on 04/13/2005 7:23:00 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: areafiftyone
BJ only got 46 & 48% of the vote. What makes anyone think Hilarycare Rob-em will do any better??

Pray for W and Our Troops

42 posted on 04/13/2005 7:31:05 PM PDT by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: Soul Seeker

I agree. They are actually two parts of one person. They would be nothing without the other. But Bill is very brilliant in some ways and has a seductive charm. Hillary is mean but much more tenacious and ambitious. If he had her talents at plain old gutter fighting and tenacity and ruthlessness, he would have been a great president I do believe. But he is impulsive, self centered, vain and has poor judgement, needs to be admired constantly and can't keep focus. She kept him in control when she was around. But she has far less to go with than he does.


43 posted on 04/13/2005 7:32:00 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: areafiftyone

I don't think Bubba's motives need all that analyzing - he's just a mean f*cker.


44 posted on 04/13/2005 7:34:57 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: ReadyNow
Alas, I, too, find myself unable to find a 20/20 field of vision when clinton comes into view. Blinding rage and the bile of 2800 days of Who's your daddy clinton pimping still manage to overtake my otherwise normal existence. Try as I may to suppress it, the urge to purge the clinton scourge is always with me and I fear the damage is irreversible. *sigh*
45 posted on 04/13/2005 7:38:13 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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