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Seoul downgrading U.S. alliance in favor of closer military ties with China, Russia
East Asia Intel (via: The Horse Mouth) ^ | 04.14.05

Posted on 04/14/2005 8:08:17 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

South Korea is planning to bolster military ties with its long-time Cold War rivals China and Russia in an effort to play a balancing role in Northeast Asia and help stabilize the Korean peninsula, Seoul's defense chief said. The move is consistent with the stated intention of President Roh Moo-Hyun to adopt a more "independent" foreign policy from the United States.
 
 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: alliances; allies; china; coldwar2; japan; korea; southkorea; us
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To: winner3000

They shouldn't be getting F-15s from us if thats how they are going to treat us!


21 posted on 04/14/2005 8:35:12 AM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Dr. Marten

We need a score card - something like:

Old Allies leaving us:
South Korea
Germany
France (I know, I know..)
Canada (in name only, we're stuck with each other)

New Allies joining us:
Poland
Eastern 'New' Europe

Interesting potential new ally:
India

Old friends:
UK
Australia

?:
Russia - drifts towards us, then away, having an identity crisis?
Japan - an ally that seems to be testing the waters of beefing up their military?


Who am I forgetting?


23 posted on 04/14/2005 8:39:56 AM PDT by Sax
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To: mikeus_maximus

Consider the source. If anything this seems as a left handed commercial to induce people to subscribe to the net site and the others linked at the bottom of the page.


24 posted on 04/14/2005 8:44:18 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: ChinaThreat

My dad spilled his blood on that soil. He spent months in hospitals for helping to protect those people. If they want to snub the US, let 'em. I'm all for letting them be hoisted with their own petards. If they want to lay down with dogs like China and Russia to protect them the NK's htey'll wake up with worse than fleas.

So yes, it's a good thing if we now have a reason to finally pull our troops out. I just hope we don't have a misguided president in a few years who thinks it's in our interests to go back in when their inevitable call comes for us to come die on their behalf again.


25 posted on 04/14/2005 8:49:42 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: evilthatmendo

I am reading a book, the New Chinese Empire. I am all for buying cheap products overseas, but not when they use the money to point missiles at me!

(Post) The Cylon Empire and the PRC (Peoples Republic of China)
NixFlix.com ^ | 4/6/2005 | marylandrepub1
Posted on 04/06/2005 11:19:15 AM PDT by marylandrepub1

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1378592/posts


26 posted on 04/14/2005 9:12:28 AM PDT by marylandrepub1 (It's not yours, it's welfare(it's not even earned yet))
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To: Dr. Marten

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376628/posts


27 posted on 04/14/2005 9:27:36 AM PDT by CDB
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To: Dr. Marten
Cool. Let the Koreans take care of Korea...

Ba-bye

28 posted on 04/14/2005 9:37:37 AM PDT by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: Sax

"...who am i forgetting?..."

South America, especially after the Carter/Panama Canal fiasco and Chinese subsequent presence there. The place is turning into a Castroite enclave, and it's right in our backyard.


29 posted on 04/14/2005 9:48:40 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: CGVet58

Yes, I've heard that Chavez is trying to estabilish relations with DPRK and China.


30 posted on 04/14/2005 10:04:05 AM PDT by Sax
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To: Sax

I hope all the free traitors someday take notice. Everday there is more and more saber rattling by china and new alliances that are against the US.


31 posted on 04/14/2005 11:09:56 AM PDT by superiorslots
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To: Dr. Marten

Keep shopping at wal-mart folks.


32 posted on 04/14/2005 11:14:56 AM PDT by jpsb (I already know I am a terrible speller)
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To: mikeus_maximus

"So yes, it's a good thing if we now have a reason to finally pull our troops out. I just hope we don't have a misguided president in a few years who thinks it's in our interests to go back in when their inevitable call comes for us to come die on their behalf again."

I agree completely.


33 posted on 04/14/2005 11:53:00 AM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: ChinaThreat

When we pull our troops out of Seoul or anywhere else I will believe it. Personally I don't think it will happen. Those bases are almost like Pork. Somebody in the gubmint is getting their palms greased to keep the bases where they are at.

I rememebr the BJ president saying the troops will be out of Bosnia in 5 years. Yeah right, 7-8 years later still there.


34 posted on 04/14/2005 1:09:18 PM PDT by superiorslots
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To: superiorslots

I think you are correct. A lot of money trading hands when millitary bases are involved. Rumsfeld has beein floating this baloon of repositioning for several years now though.


35 posted on 04/14/2005 1:30:30 PM PDT by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: Dr. Marten

Pull the troops NOW. See how long it takes North Korea to cross the DMZ.

South Korea must be looking for something.


36 posted on 04/14/2005 1:37:00 PM PDT by Beckwith (I knew Churchill, and Ward Churchill is no Churchill . . . he ain't no Indian either . . .)
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To: Dr. Marten

Just let them talk and let them do their thing. They will fall on their face and when they do they will cry for help AND blame us for their failing.

We need not do anything. Just wait. N. Korea will lift its ugly head (As it periodically does), China is behind N. Korea. Who are the S. Koreans trying to fool? Those people they want to have better relations with want them dead, crushed, annihilated. They are acting out a fantasy that could seriously backfire on them. When it does, they will blame the US and some grand conspiracy of how we are the force that is keeping them divided. Many there really believe that the US is the force behind the division and driving a wedge between the North and South.

Reality is, the US is about the only one that does not care and even favors unification “IF” the North were to change its ways (We didn’t oppose unification in Germany). Why are we the only ones that are not against it? Let me explain.

Secretly the S. Korean government fears unification. Think of Germany, the East/West unification times a BAZILION. You think the DDR was bad? N. Korea would bankrupt the South, and they know it. Japan fears a unified peninsula. They fought them as did the Chinese who also like N. Korea because they are a handy crow bar to use for leveraging against the US at certain times (US says they’ll back Taiwan, coincidentally N. Korea acts up-strange how that works.). Besides, the N. Korean regime likes its pleasure houses, platform shoes and big parades. Unification can not happen with the old regime sticking to its power. Some people seem to forget that some of these guys kind of like living the way they do. Dr Evils (Kim Jong Il) opinions matter in this case. Ironically, some college students in S. Korea think the US is the force behind Korean division. Now, their left leaning anti US government after making all kinds of promises and (Oh-we’ll bring N/S Korea much closer) is in power and is confronted with a difficult situation. They are expected to deliver by those who voted for them! Yea, OK- Lets see where this sunshine leads us :)

Red6


37 posted on 04/14/2005 2:01:34 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Dr. Marten

I question the validity of the source.


38 posted on 04/14/2005 2:03:07 PM PDT by jimt
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To: ChinaThreat

I believe Taiwan about has a lock on the microchip industry.


39 posted on 04/14/2005 2:04:19 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: marylandrepub1
We need to re-militarize Japan.

"We?" The Japanese are as proud--in a positive sense--as any people on earth. One may certainly hope that they prepare to protect themselves from the Red Chinese and the Red North Koreans--one suspects that they already have very serious contingency plans to do so. They certainly have the technology to compete with anyone in modern weaponry--and on fairly short notice. But it needs to be their choice.

MacArthur succeeded in demilitarizing Japan by understanding their pride, and working with their Emperor, as the spiritual leader of the people. The present "bull in a china shop" mentality in Washington needs to be very careful here.

40 posted on 04/14/2005 2:12:28 PM PDT by Ohioan
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