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My Norton is driving me nuts
April 14, 2005 | pbrown

Posted on 04/14/2005 9:25:57 AM PDT by processing please hold

I've had to uninstall and then reinstall my Norton Internet Security 2004, a total of four times in the last two weeks. I am at my wits end, which for me, isn't too far a journey. Any help on what could possibly be wrong would be greatly appreciated.


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I don't have any idea what I'm doing when it comes to computers. I dig and poke around hoping I don't do more damage than is already done. My live update is running in the background...again. It seems to always be running. Explaining in as few syllables as possible would be a tremendous help.
1 posted on 04/14/2005 9:25:59 AM PDT by processing please hold
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To: pbrown
3 letters for you,

AVG

2 more words for you

NORTON SUCKS

2 posted on 04/14/2005 9:26:56 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35 (Proud Pilot Of The Inner Sphere)
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To: pbrown

A scottsman walks into a bar with a steering wheel hanging out of his fly.


The bartender says "Hey, you have a steering wheel in your fly."


The scottsman says "Aye, it's drivin me nuts."


3 posted on 04/14/2005 9:28:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: pbrown
I did OK with Norton Internet Security 2003. But when I upgraded to a newer version, it seriously hosed my machine, and would not let me uninstall it. I lost Internet connectivity completely.

Norton's advice line told me to log into their web page and download a fix. Idiots.

There is no doubt: Norton sucks.
But there is a solution: Buy another product.

4 posted on 04/14/2005 9:29:53 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: pbrown
AVG is free and great. Norton's best feature is the uninstall function.
5 posted on 04/14/2005 9:29:58 AM PDT by OSHA (Pray for me. My [LOW FUEL] light is on.)
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To: pbrown

Dump Norton.

http://www.mcafee.com/us/


6 posted on 04/14/2005 9:30:10 AM PDT by Tarantulas
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To: pbrown

Oh, sorry. Thought you had a commando.


7 posted on 04/14/2005 9:30:24 AM PDT by kallisti
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To: pbrown
If you downloaded & installed Windows XP SP 2, there are some known conflicts with Norton & ZoneAlarm.
8 posted on 04/14/2005 9:30:39 AM PDT by martin_fierro (UnnnghConscious)
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To: pbrown
Have you by any chance downloaded the Microsoft Service pack 2? If you have that is probably your problem. It is not compatible with Norton's Firewall.
9 posted on 04/14/2005 9:31:26 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: pbrown

I do not use Norton Internet Security 2004. I do use Norton Anti-Virus 2004 plus a personal firewall.

What causes you to uninstall and reinstall NIS?
What operating system are you using?


10 posted on 04/14/2005 9:32:01 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: pbrown

I just bought and installed the 2005 version of Norton Systemworks.
I won't be buying 2006 Systemworks.


11 posted on 04/14/2005 9:32:07 AM PDT by wolfpat (Dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: pbrown

Dump Nortons(Hasn't been worth 2 cents since Norton sold the company). Grab another anti-viral package like Mcafee or others. Make sure you uninstall Norton Anti-Virus and the Live Update before you install any other packages.


12 posted on 04/14/2005 9:32:07 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: pbrown

Here's my personal experience. First of all are you trying to install an older version of Norton with a newer version of Windows ..?? When I changed over to XP - I had to buy a 2004 version of Norton.

Also .. Whenever I delete or add any software - I always run defrag. I've found it makes the transition to new software much easier and less problematic. After I delete the software - I run defrag - then after I reinstall the software - I run defrag.


13 posted on 04/14/2005 9:32:20 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: MetalHeadConservative35

Excuse me .. NORTON is the very best.


14 posted on 04/14/2005 9:33:15 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: cripplecreek
A scottsman walks into a bar with a steering wheel hanging out of his fly.

A pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel attached to his crotch.

The bartender says, "Do you know you have a steering wheel attached to your crotch?"

The pirate replies, "ARRRRRRRR... She's drivin me nuts!"

If you're going to say it, say it right. :)

15 posted on 04/14/2005 9:33:52 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: pbrown

Norton is horrid! Macafee is a bit better but not by much. AVG is free and is very good. Another good one is called System Suite by V-Com. Its a all in one like norton that runs great and is only $40 bucks. Comes with Anti-virus, Firewall and a bunch of other stuff. Works fantastic!


16 posted on 04/14/2005 9:33:56 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: OSHA

How is AVG free? I notice my Norton constantly falls off auto mode so that it does not scan or update automatically, I have to do manual scans and updates.

When it expires I will go to something else.


17 posted on 04/14/2005 9:34:16 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: BubbaBobTX
Have you by any chance downloaded the Microsoft Service pack 2? If you have that is probably your problem. It is not compatible with Norton's Firewall.

What is incompatible is running both the MS and Norton FW's at the same time.

Regards, RW9 - Currently running Norton Systemworks Pro 2004 and SP2.

18 posted on 04/14/2005 9:34:17 AM PDT by RedWing9 (No tag here... Just want to stay vague...)
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To: cripplecreek

"But do they call me Angus the Ship Builder? Noooooo...."


20 posted on 04/14/2005 9:35:37 AM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: pbrown

Two words. Zone Alarm


21 posted on 04/14/2005 9:35:48 AM PDT by John Lenin (It's not if it feels good ,do it, it's if it feels right , do it !)
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My Norton is driving me nuts



One of these days, Norton...POW!!! TO THE MOON!!!
22 posted on 04/14/2005 9:36:17 AM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: BubbaBobTX; pbrown
Have you by any chance downloaded the Microsoft Service pack 2? If you have that is probably your problem. It is not compatible with Norton's Firewall.

Both firewalls can't be ran simultaneously. If SP2 is installed, go to your Control Panel, open "Windows Firewall" and choose "Off (Not Recommended)".

This should give NIS the field.

Hope it helps.


23 posted on 04/14/2005 9:36:21 AM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: nikos1121

AVG is free as long as you don't want tech support. I've used it for nearly three years. Works great.


24 posted on 04/14/2005 9:36:24 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Have you had your Flag-o-Gram today?)
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To: BubbaBobTX

Really?? I'm not having any problems with Norton at all - NEVER. I have MS-XP and Norton 2004.


25 posted on 04/14/2005 9:36:26 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: OSHA
Norton's best feature is the uninstall function.

Well, not quite. Norton is so bloated that, depending on which version, they actually have a few uninstallers for their messy uninstall.

26 posted on 04/14/2005 9:36:33 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. )
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To: pbrown
I had a very similar problem. I finally took mine to a shop and was told that spyware/adware had taken over. The tech then cleaned my hard drive, (getting rid of my Norton), installed AVG .... all for $40.00. My computer works better than ever! Also, I have added Webroot Spy Sweeper.

Good luck!

27 posted on 04/14/2005 9:36:53 AM PDT by Tuba Guy (' I has spoken !! ')
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To: pbrown

These pretzels are making me thirsty.


28 posted on 04/14/2005 9:37:05 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: JustAnAmerican

I don't like Mcafee at all - I only used it a few months and I couldn't stand it.


29 posted on 04/14/2005 9:37:37 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: pbrown
My live update is running in the background...again.

I believe my Live Update runs in the background all the time too. If I'm right, and I'm not on my home machine to check, but I believe the process runs as a Service, meaning it starts when you start the computer. What's the process name?

30 posted on 04/14/2005 9:38:06 AM PDT by RedWing9 (No tag here... Just want to stay vague...)
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To: nikos1121

Get AVG here------>http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5


31 posted on 04/14/2005 9:38:09 AM PDT by OSHA (Pray for me. My [LOW FUEL] light is on.)
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To: F15Eagle

"Hello, Ball"


32 posted on 04/14/2005 9:39:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: nikos1121

What version of Norton do you have - I have Norton 2004 and I don't have any problems - ever.


33 posted on 04/14/2005 9:39:22 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: pbrown

Did you just install SP2 for XP? Known problems with some Symantec products.


34 posted on 04/14/2005 9:40:11 AM PDT by Feckless
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To: kallisti

LOL I figured it was Lucas related problems.

Didya hear Norton is making a comeback? Pretty nice looking scoot...we'll see if they actually can survive longer than other resurrected brands (like Indian).

http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/


35 posted on 04/14/2005 9:40:28 AM PDT by Betis70 (Guinness is good for ya)
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To: pbrown
I don't know what's happened to Symantec but their home computer products suck.

Symantec Client Security for Enterprises and their Security Appliances like the sgs 5400 series are awesome but I won't touch their home computer products.

36 posted on 04/14/2005 9:40:42 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (I know a great deal about the Middle East because Ive been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: JustAnAmerican
Grab another anti-viral package like Mcafee or others

McAfee was the worst $60 I ever spent on a computer, and I did that last year. Used it on my kids machine and I was never able to get it to "auto-update" in the background. I had to ALWAYS tell it to download updated virus files even. PITA.

Additionally, McAfee does not identify or protect from Malware.

37 posted on 04/14/2005 9:41:02 AM PDT by RedWing9 (No tag here... Just want to stay vague...)
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To: John Lenin
Two words. Zone Alarm

What version are you using and with which operating system?  I am still using 4.5 after uninstalling 5.0.  Have heard 5.5 has not worked all that well for some folks.

I'm using Windows 2000 Pro.

38 posted on 04/14/2005 9:41:03 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Thanks for the info.

So you just go to their site and download?

Norton provides no tech support unless you pay for it.

Something else. I've noticed of late that my monitor goes off after my computer boots up. The monitor is fine, but when I go to control panel, display and to settings and then tinker with the pixels the display stays on.

This is driving me crazy. I've called Compaq and they have no clue what's going on. I'm thinking I have some virus but virus scans are clear.

The computer is still under warranty.

Sound like something you've seen before?

nick


39 posted on 04/14/2005 9:41:06 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: MetalHeadConservative35; All
AVG..huh?

Norton sucks bigtime.

The posting to all the replies will take me forever. I'll do it though. If ya'll haven't heard from me today, check back tomorrow I'll still be answering.

Slow is not good.

40 posted on 04/14/2005 9:41:20 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Some internet server providers (browser??)are not compatible with Norton and or McVee. I had to disable certain safety functions within my firewall (McVee) before I could navigate on the web. Possibly the identity protection function may have to be disabled before you can navigate the web.


41 posted on 04/14/2005 9:41:47 AM PDT by clearsight
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To: CyberAnt

2004. It seems to run okay but after reading these posts I'm starting to wonder.


42 posted on 04/14/2005 9:41:51 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: pbrown

I've used AVG for years, but lately I've learned that the folks in the know prefer Avast or AntiVir, both of which are also freeware antivirus programs. AntiVir seems to have the edge. I just replaced AVG with it on one virus-ridden pc, like it so far, haven't put it on the others just yet.

Dan


43 posted on 04/14/2005 9:42:20 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Racehorse

Mine has worked flawlessly, I think it's the latest version.


44 posted on 04/14/2005 9:43:21 AM PDT by John Lenin (It's not if it feels good ,do it, it's if it feels right , do it !)
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To: pbrown

It always runs alot when you first buy and install....needs to update everything it doesn't have since it was packed.


45 posted on 04/14/2005 9:43:37 AM PDT by Pillows
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To: cripplecreek
The scottsman says "Aye, it's drivin me nuts."

ROTFLMAO. Thanks for the laugh. I was about to start pulling my hair out.

46 posted on 04/14/2005 9:45:43 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: CyberAnt

I have no dog in this fight. I have Norton installed on one home machine and AVG on another. At work I have an enterprise version of MacAfee, version 7, I believe. My daughter has Trend. They all work.

I got Norton for my home computer because, at the time i got it, it was the only one that fully integrated with Outlook Express. It scanns incoming and outgoing mail.

Recently I upgraded it to version 2005. I was hesitant because CPU magazine had dongraded it for compatibility issues. I disabled the Norton firewall during installation because I use ZoneAlarm (Windows 2000, not XP).

I have no complaints about this installation, but I insatlled on a new XP machine for my boss and ran into firewall problems. It seemed to be blocking automatic updates for another program. This is never a problem with ZoneAlarm, because it always tells you what it is doing and offers alternatives in clear English.


47 posted on 04/14/2005 9:45:49 AM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: pbrown
while norton is without doubt the best virus program it does have some serious bugs with installing and uninstalling. i recommend to my customers to install ONLY the anti-virus and leave internet security and systemworks alone. XP SP2 gives you a software firewall and if you are using a router that is more the sufficent for 95% of internet users. if norton has hosed your system you may need to track-down and delete all "hidden" temporary files and delete every reference to symantec and norton in your system registry as well as all norton and symantec folders on your computer before re-installing just the anti-virus.
48 posted on 04/14/2005 9:45:58 AM PDT by thejokker
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To: pbrown

Drop Norton, get AVG.


49 posted on 04/14/2005 9:46:11 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: CyberAnt
"I don't like Mcafee at all - I only used it a few months and I couldn't stand it."

That's why I suggested others also. It's one of those "what works best for you" senarios. I work for a computer company and have seen very few computers that Norton actually worked on without problems.

By the same token I have seen very few that Mcafee did not work well with. And all of these cases were when Mcafee had their heads up their arses when it came to listening to the general public. That changed about the middle of last year and I have yet seen a problem associated with Mcafee,

However Nortons is a constant headache. But like anything else, if it works for you, stick with it. Nortons biggest problem by far, at least in my opinion, is when the company was sold and Norton(The software designer) no longer had anything to do with the company.

The year he sold the company they used an ad with Fidel Castro on their webpage which told me all I needed to know.

50 posted on 04/14/2005 9:46:30 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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