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The Next Pope and Islamic Prophecy (TROPô covets Rome and the Vatican)
FrontPage Magazine ^ | April 14, 2005 | Steven Stalinsky

Posted on 04/14/2005 3:04:18 PM PDT by quidnunc

Following Pope John Paul II's visit to the Middle East in 2000 and 2001, some prominent Muslim leaders openly discussed the future dominance of Islam in Europe, including conquesting the Vatican. 

While the identity of the next pope is decided, one of the pressing issues he will have to deal with is the growing Muslim community in Europe, part of which have Islamist inclinations. As the New York Times reported this week, the next pope will be facing "increasing secularism in Europe, contrasting with the religious revival in the Islamic world … and the rising number of Muslim immigrants in Europe."

Saudi Sheikh Muhammad bin Abd Al-Rahman Al-'Arifi, Imam of the mosque of King Fahd Defense Academy, discussed the coming Muslim conquest of the Vatican. Citing a Hadith in an article posted on the Kalemat website in 2002, he stated: "… We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it. Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims … will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam…"

Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and head of The European Council for Fatwa and Research and the founder of European based International Council of Muslim Scholars (Imams) posted a fatwa on the website www.islamonline.net, in 2002 about the "signs of the victory of Islam" in Europe.

Also citing a well-known Hadith, Al-Qaradhawi wrote: "… The Prophet Muhammad was asked: 'What city will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyya?' He answered: 'The city of Hirqil [i.e. the Byzantine emperor Heraclius] will be conquered first' — that is, Constantinople… Romiyya is the city called today 'Rome,' the capital of Italy … and we hope and believe [that it too will be conquered]."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cardinals; cary; conclave; islam; koranimals; nextpope; pope; prophecy; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; religionoftolerance; romiyya; trop
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1 posted on 04/14/2005 3:04:18 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

This is no news to the Vatican. They know that Christians and Jews are not reproducing and that can't be blamed on Islam.


2 posted on 04/14/2005 3:13:13 PM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: ex-snook

Time for another Crusade....(they call us Crusaders anyway,
we might as well not disappoint 'em).


3 posted on 04/14/2005 3:16:42 PM PDT by beethovenfan
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To: quidnunc

Europe is letting itself be destroyed from within. They have invited the fox into the henhouse. Their guilt trip over the wrongs of their colonial past is taking them to the brink of extinction. Very sad.


4 posted on 04/14/2005 3:16:52 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: quidnunc

Yep. Unless the Europeans wake up--and fast--they'll be doing the jiziya before they know what hit 'em. Right now, they think it's a dance. They're going to be dancing to a very different tune. And it's going to get mighty hot on the beaches in those burqas.


5 posted on 04/14/2005 3:17:03 PM PDT by Savage Beast (There is nothing liberal about the Left!)
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To: ex-snook

They know that Christians and Jews are not reproducing and that can't be blamed on Islam.

^^
You are quite right.


6 posted on 04/14/2005 3:17:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: quidnunc
We may want to check other sources before writing the Vatican off.


7 posted on 04/14/2005 3:17:58 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: quidnunc

and lest we forget the Pope has always been a fave potential target of our Al Quedie friends, revenge for the Crusades and all,

actually do Islamists think Catholics are people of the book, because don't Catholics worship the Trinity, the father the son and the holy ghost and Islamists therefore think Catholics are worshipping three Gods not one? in which case they are infidels not People of the Book and therefore killable without bothering to ask for the jiyza or whatever


8 posted on 04/14/2005 3:21:03 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: Savage Beast

I think that the Europeans are wide awake. However, I think that it may be too late.


9 posted on 04/14/2005 3:22:57 PM PDT by peter the great
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To: beethovenfan
"Time for another Crusade....(they call us Crusaders anyway, we might as well not disappoint 'em)."

Christians/Jews need a Crusade to have more children. Western Civilization has taken the pill of mass destruction. The Vatican has long advocated that birth control is a no-no.

10 posted on 04/14/2005 3:25:28 PM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: quidnunc
Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims … will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam…"

Yes. The recent problem of Christians carving crosses on the chests of muslims cries out for a solution. It is happening everywhere and all the time!

Fruitcake alert.

11 posted on 04/14/2005 3:28:19 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: quidnunc
>"Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims … will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam…"

Sounds a lot like the Demoncrats talking points handbook. Oh yeah also the Communists and the ACLU's !!!!

ABC CBS NBC CNN its all the SAME, Propaganda.
Might as well call them all AmeriJazerra.
Show them how much Gravitas Hugh Bris has. Vote with your remote! Shut down the Alphabet channels.

He's Got A Plan
Zippo Hero
Seven Dead Monkeys Page O Tunes

12 posted on 04/14/2005 3:31:19 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: peter the great

Agree. Too late. Islam has infiltrated Europe


13 posted on 04/14/2005 3:31:27 PM PDT by Daisy4
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To: quidnunc
Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims … will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam…"

Question: Can we pay them with Nukes and Cruise Missiles? I would gladly pay today instead of waiting....

14 posted on 04/14/2005 3:35:24 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: quidnunc

The smugness of Islam is amazing. Muslims will see quite a different fate than what they portray in their "delusions of grandeur".

Infidels have much more firepower that the Allah-worshippers think.


15 posted on 04/14/2005 3:36:06 PM PDT by jolie560
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To: ex-snook
Islam is a totalitarian ideology at war with the west and it is incompatible with liberty. Islam is perfectly willing to use the democratic processes of the west to insert itself until it gains a moral or numerical advantage at which point they will introduce Sharia and your choice will be to convert or die. The secular west is not prepared to deal with the threat to our civilization due to insane multiculturalism which is ignorant or, worse, lying, about the unchanged patern of 13 centuries of Islamic Jihad aginst Christians and Jews.

I pray for a Pope realistic enough to confront the threat and to lead the west to sanity and to recognize we are not engaged in a war of terror but we are at war with Islam. And Islam is every bit the totalitarian ideology that Nazism and Communism was.

It is time we in the west woke-up and smelled the Frankinsence or else our headless bodies will be annointed with myrrh.

16 posted on 04/14/2005 3:36:10 PM PDT by bornacatholic (Please, God. A Pope who will wake-up the west about Islam's war against us.)
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To: beethovenfan
I'm game.


17 posted on 04/14/2005 3:40:00 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: TR Jeffersonian

you need to read this.


18 posted on 04/14/2005 3:45:11 PM PDT by kalee
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To: quidnunc
Saudi Sheikh Muhammad bin Abd Al-Rahman Al-'Arifi, Imam of the mosque of King Fahd Defense Academy, discussed the coming Muslim conquest of the Vatican. Citing a Hadith in an article posted on the Kalemat website in 2002, he stated: "… We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it. Yes, the Christians, who carve crosses on the breasts of the Muslims … will yet pay us the Jiziya [poll tax paid by non-Muslims under Muslim rule], in humiliation, or they will convert to Islam…"

Now if Billy Graham has preached to take over Mecca, and Medina, and to make the Muslims there pay taxes if they do not convert to Christianity, would that be accepted by the Muslims? Of course not, it will not be accepted by the Americans, not to mention the ACLU!

19 posted on 04/14/2005 3:47:51 PM PDT by conservlib
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To: quidnunc
Dip: "Why aren't there any Muslims characters in science fiction TV shows or movies?"

Sage: "Science fiction stories are usually set in the future."

20 posted on 04/14/2005 3:48:39 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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