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Abortion Clinics on Edge After Manifesto
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/14/05 | Daniel Yee - AP

Posted on 04/14/2005 9:19:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

ATLANTA - Abortion clinics around the country are bracing for attacks after Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph issued his manifesto justifying the use of violence to stop "the worst massacre in human history."

"When one of these extremists puts out a call to action, oftentimes, others do try to follow in their footsteps," said Vicki Saporta, head of the National Abortion Federation, which represents 400 U.S. clinics. "He clearly is speaking to the extremists who believe in justifiable homicide."

Rudolph will get four life sentences without parole after pleading guilty Wednesday to carrying out the deadly bombing at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics and attacks at two abortion clinics and a gay nightclub. The blasts killed two people and wounded 123.

A federal prosecutor said Thursday she'll recommend that a $1 million reward go to two men who tracked Rudolph moments after the last deadly blast, and who provided authorities with a license plate number eventually traced to Rudolph's pickup truck.

In an 11-page manifesto handed out by his attorneys, Rudolph said the Olympic bombing was an attempt to embarrass the United States in front of the world for allowing abortion.

"Because I believe that abortion is murder, I also believe that force is justified ... in an attempt to stop it," Rudolph wrote.

Abortion clinics and federal agents are on a heightened state of alert.

"We're making sure our liaisons have kept up with the clinics and to make sure the security clinics have is up to date," said Mike Campbell, spokesman for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. "Most of them are very cognizant they can be a target of anybody who doesn't like abortion."

Anti-abortion groups condemned Rudolph's endorsement of violence.

"It looks to me as if he views himself as a one-man army against the entire world or at least the United States," said Troy Newman, president of Operation Rescue. "I would concur with his opinion that abortion is murder. However, his frustration that leads to violence is never an acceptable way to accept this."

U.S. Attorney Alice Martin's recommendation on the $1 million reward will be forwarded to the FBI, but the final decision is up to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

"The witnesses have made no request for a reward, and it's not available until the prosecution has been completed," Martin said. "But in my opinion it is worthy of recommendation that those two witnesses be considered."

Martin said Jermaine Hughes, a 20-year-old college student at the time, and attorney Jeff Tickal provided the key evidence that led to Rudolph's quick identification after a fatal abortion clinic bombing in Alabama.

After the explosion, Hughes alerted police that he had seen a suspicious figure walking away from the clinic. He and Tickal then both followed Rudolph briefly in separate vehicles.

Tickal wrote down the license number of Rudolph's pickup truck and eventually provided the first eyewitness identification of Rudolph based on a newspaper photo.

After that, Rudolph spent more than five years as a fugitive before he was captured in 2003 in Murphy, N.C.

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Associated Press Writer Jay Reeves contributed to this story from Birmingham, Ala.

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On the Net:

National Abortion Federation: http://www.prochoice.org

Operation Rescue: http://www.operationrescue.org


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Lost amidst all this, imo.. The act of aborting a fetus is a violent act, in and of itself.

Advocating the cessation of violence against the defenseless isn't a violent act, is it?

1 posted on 04/14/2005 9:19:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

"Because I believe that abortion is murder, I also believe that force is justified ... in an attempt to stop it," Rudolph wrote."

I can't argue with that.


2 posted on 04/14/2005 9:26:43 PM PDT by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: NormsRevenge

Violently murdering the unborn (just born) innocent is a peaceful and serene act, so says the bloodly handed abortionist killers.


3 posted on 04/14/2005 9:27:56 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: NormsRevenge
"He clearly is speaking to the extremists who believe in justifiable homicide."

Like abortion clinics don't??

4 posted on 04/14/2005 9:29:18 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Fighting violence with violence? Isn't that where you become them? Anyway, how he can justify killing and injuring people at a concert to protest abortion is a puzzle to me. A lot of these people were with their children they had chosen to birth and enjoying life.
5 posted on 04/14/2005 9:30:25 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: NormsRevenge; Humidston; PistolPaknMama; Ursus arctos horribilis; CindyDawg



An innocent woman was killed in the 1996 Olympic bombing. And no one who is Gay deserves to be murdered or bombed. There were innocent people including girls who really don't know what they're doing. I don't really care about these abortion doctors, but come on.



6 posted on 04/14/2005 9:37:09 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: CindyDawg
Just so Cindy. Let's call Eric Rudolph what he is...a terrorist, attempting to terrify people into compliance with his anti-abortion stance. We must separate the intention from the action. The intent to end abortion is good, the action of dispensing 'justice' vigilante style is not.

Applying social, economic, and other forms of pressure to abortionists and those seeking abortions is acceptable, as is voting and putting forth legislation to make abortions more difficult to get, hopefully culminating in the abolition of the practice. But when a lone individual chooses to take the law into his own hands and decides who lives or dies, that individual has left the reservation and must be isolated, captured, and in my opinion put to death. He is not an innocent, and deserves his punishment. Unborn babies are innocent, and do not deserve death.
7 posted on 04/14/2005 9:37:10 PM PDT by JeffGuidry
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To: NormsRevenge

"U.S. Attorney Alice Martin's recommendation on the $1 million reward will be forwarded to the FBI, but the final decision is up to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales."


How about that money be used for free sonograms? End of abortion problem, end of this vigilantism.....


8 posted on 04/14/2005 9:37:50 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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Thankyou.

So basically, this man feels justified in killing the girls who make that stupid decision.

I don't know if they choose to ignore this, but he bombed a Gay club.

The reason I am against promoting homosexuality is that by encouraging homosexuality, you create homesexuals. These young men, are dying of AIDS and if it's not AIDS it's something else. The Left is responsible for their deaths in that aspect. This man had no right to kill innocent people.

I really could care less about an abortion doctor, though.




9 posted on 04/14/2005 9:42:19 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I agree about the homosexuals. I didn't deliberately omit them. I believe the behavior is wrong but we are all God's children so whether they knew what they were doing or not ....


10 posted on 04/14/2005 9:44:06 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: JeffGuidry
But when a lone individual ... decides who lives or dies, that individual has left the reservation and must be isolated, captured, and in my opinion put to death.

Unborn babies are innocent, and do not deserve death.

How do you justify your first statement with the second?

11 posted on 04/14/2005 9:45:36 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: CindyDawg



I'm not Christian or any religion really, but one of my favorite expressions is


" Love the sinner, hate the sin. "


12 posted on 04/14/2005 9:46:17 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: JeffGuidry

He is not an innocent, and deserves his punishment. Unborn babies are innocent, and do not deserve death.

Thanks. BUMP


13 posted on 04/14/2005 9:46:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

No murderer is innocent, neither Rudolph, nor the abortionist killers.


14 posted on 04/14/2005 9:46:57 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: PistolPaknMama



Because this vigilante killed innocent people! It wasn't just the abortion doctors and it wasn't just an abortion mill! The Olympics, a GAY nightclub! Who the hell does this guy think he is!


15 posted on 04/14/2005 9:48:04 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis


I agree. Rudolph went and killed innocent people because he was protesting... the innocent killing of people. This guy is a nutbag.


16 posted on 04/14/2005 9:49:19 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
The reason I am against promoting homosexuality is that by encouraging homosexuality, you create homesexuals. These young men, are dying of AIDS and if it's not AIDS it's something else. The Left is responsible for their deaths in that aspect.

Huh? Not all gay people have AIDS or HIV. Also, many people have AIDS who are not gay. There are plenty of orphans here in Thailand who have AIDS who are much too young to ever have had a sexual experience.

17 posted on 04/14/2005 9:50:29 PM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Even killing abortionists is wrong. I am a Christian and it's hard but I pray for them too. Despite what they do I don't want them harmed or killed. Just stopped.


18 posted on 04/14/2005 9:51:37 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: LauraleeBraswell
This man had no right to kill innocent people. I really could care less about an abortion doctor, though.

I'm not an Eric Rudolph fan. But did you stop to think about what you are saying? Maybe the very act of killing innocent people who have no choice was the ultimate statement -- in Rudolph's mind. I'm not defending him even by a long stretch, but the way you worded your posts made it clear what his message was. Innocents should not die, but they do.

19 posted on 04/14/2005 9:54:53 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: Humidston
I can't argue with that.

If you agree with Rudolph, you can take up his cause, become violent, kill people, retreat the woods like a cowardly animal, beg to a Prosecutor that he spare your life and live the rest of your days in a 6x6 cell.

Or you can take a step back and see what a twisted POS Rudolph really is and how he has hurt the Pro-Life movement.

20 posted on 04/14/2005 10:00:31 PM PDT by jsbankston
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To: LauraleeBraswell
The Olympics, a GAY nightclub! Who the hell does this guy think he is!

Like his supporters, Rudolph thinks he is God, and gets to kill anyone the voices in his head tell him to. Is there any major religion out there that would actually support Rudulph in such a notion?

Oh yes, I forgot, there is one. Send Rudolph to Saudi now.

21 posted on 04/14/2005 10:12:32 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: jsbankston; LauraleeBraswell

Rudolph is a kook whose Olympic bombing and gay bar bombing was totally wrong.

BUT when I picture Jesus Christ ripping and roaring at the moneychangers in the temple, I take comfort that there are thousands of abortion criminals/baby killers and baby body parts salesmen who will similarly be called to account on judgement day. I hope I get to watch. N'est pas?


22 posted on 04/14/2005 10:15:04 PM PDT by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Why do you persist in capitalizing the word "gay"?


23 posted on 04/14/2005 10:15:44 PM PDT by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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Innocents are killed all the time; the unborn, the born (Sun Hudson in Texas) children in Iraq (from terrorists or from US bombing runs), Terri Schiavo, or perhaps wrongly convicted prisoners who were executed.

"Thou shalt not kill" is pretty straight forward but I guess it really depends on one's perspective and how any of these "reasons" to kill can be justified in our own minds.


24 posted on 04/14/2005 10:17:15 PM PDT by crab-boy
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm anti-abortion, and I hope to see the day when "doctors" who murder the unborn are rewarded with life imprisonment for their deeds. Killing abortion doctors or abortion supporters, however, is murder, and Randolph is a murdering terrorist. I have no sympathy for this lunatic. Because of him and people like him, too many people see the pro-life movement as fanatical hypocrites.
25 posted on 04/14/2005 10:26:26 PM PDT by gsrinok
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To: gsrinok

Oops, sorry, I meant Rudolph. It's late.


26 posted on 04/14/2005 10:26:57 PM PDT by gsrinok
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To: NormsRevenge
The only way to take a consistent pro-life position on this is to say Rudolph is a murderer no matter what his claim is with regard to his motivation. His acts were not targeted at specific guilty individuals, thus his claim to be some sort of retributionist is specious. If he had conducted targeted assassinations of key individuals at abortion clinics then his statement could possibly be taken at face value. But as it is, he is nothing more than a nutcase trying to post facto justify the unjustifiable.
27 posted on 04/14/2005 10:29:47 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don't advocate violence against abortion clinics or abortion doctors. However, I am getting a kick out of seeing the abortion clinics and FBI getting all excited about the "possibility" of violence against clinics because of what Rudolph said. You would think that this was the only type of terrorist activity happening in this country. How about eco-terrorists or terrorists coming across the border? Abortion must be protected at all costs. Number One priority. Go figure.


28 posted on 04/14/2005 10:35:11 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: Humidston
It's truly amazing, with so many killed in the womb, there have been so few acts of violence leading to death from the pro-life side.

One form of violence is sanctioned by law. Another is proscribed by law. Having said that, we have to ask ourselves a question, as a people: How much more of the legal tolerance should be tolerated? Not knowing what we can do to stop it, and being consisitently stymied by the courts despite sound legal arguments to end the violence pushes a tiny handful over the precipice - to acts of desparate violence such as that committed by Mr. Rudolph. Not saying it's right. It's just human nature.

It's time to change abortion law. The pro-life position is the only one that is legally, intellectually, and morally tenable. It's time for the other side to "soften", for a change.

29 posted on 04/14/2005 10:54:50 PM PDT by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: Lexinom

legal tolerance = legal violence.


30 posted on 04/14/2005 11:00:07 PM PDT by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
What really irks me is how these pro abortionists can condone those late term partial birth abortions where they suck the brains out of a fully developed human child.

All abortion is wrong, but this particular procedure sickens me beyond words. It's murder plain and simple.

These girls need to be responsible and keep their legs crossed, boys keep it zipped. It doesn't help matters when schools and Hollywood promote sexual activity among teens.
I see in Canada they have made the morning after pill available across the counter without prescription. Great. The heck with personal responsibility and moral judgment,or at least a condom. Just take a pill. Just wait till the deaths start piling up, and sexually transmitted diseases explode across the country. But what the heck, they have "free health care", someone else will pay the bill.
We will see just how much longer Canada's already crumbling "free health care" will last when the demand for expensive HIV drugs goes through the roof.
31 posted on 04/14/2005 11:17:02 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NormsRevenge
Slavery was an institution as evil as abortion, and it was not ended until the hearts of the people were turned against it. Murdering abortionists will only harden peoples' hearts against our cause.

Better to use the media to combat the left's promotion of abortion: Pro-Life Television Commercials.

32 posted on 04/14/2005 11:43:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler ( .:: Johannes Paulus Magnus: "Well done, good and faithful servant!" ::.)
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To: NormsRevenge

the thing about the Olympic bombing is that it served as a great distraction for Flight 800 going down, "mysteriously".....


33 posted on 04/14/2005 11:45:56 PM PDT by cherry (I)
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To: Jeff Chandler

You're right, of course. It's especially the case in that the media covers the horror of Rudolph's action but not the day-to-day horrors that happen every day - frequently - behind closed doors. "Right to privacy".


34 posted on 04/14/2005 11:49:34 PM PDT by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: NormsRevenge
What shuts down abortion clinics?

Prayer. Find out when the Right to Life in your area prays there and join them!

Lawrence (KS) abortion clinic closes because of funding woes

Eugene abortion clinic closes; surprising many (Hooray !!!)

Prayer credited for closing of abortion clinic [Eugene, OR]

Planned Parenthood will shut down 3 clinics [Indiana]

Persevering Students Help Close Abortion Clinic [Santa Paula, CA--Thomas Aquinas College]

Abortion Clinic Managers Quit After Being Outed by Operation Rescue [Wichita, Kansas]

One Man's God Squad: Troy Newman's plan to stop abortions in Wichita, Kansas

Baby Saved From Abortion is Baptized [New Orleans]

35 posted on 04/14/2005 11:55:45 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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But when a lone individual ... decides who lives or dies, that individual has left the reservation and must be isolated, captured, and in my opinion put to death. Unborn babies are innocent, and do not deserve death. How do you justify your first statement with the second?

You justify it by saying that the ends does not justify the means. If you believe that it does then you better join the socialist and other communist because that is their prime doctrine.

It is wrong to kill people, just to kill them, or for birth control. It is wrong to kill to push a private agenda, we can change abortion with law and will do so.

Execution is done to punish and to keep killers from killing again and it is done after a trial by jury.

All of you who say this guy is some kind of hero a need to look inside yourselves deeply because you definately have a flaw.

36 posted on 04/15/2005 12:42:00 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Lexinom
One form of violence is sanctioned by law. Another is proscribed by law.

Two sentences that say it all.

AMEN and deep bow.

37 posted on 04/15/2005 9:36:18 AM PDT by Humidston (Rats = Party of DEATH)
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To: NormsRevenge

Rudolph is a coward and a complete POS. I hope the isolation and severity of the prison he's headed to drives him just nuts enough that he's in great agony, but not so nuts that he doesn't know what's going on. Much, much better than the death penalty.


38 posted on 04/15/2005 9:44:37 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: killjoy
You are buying into liberal propaganda.

Gay men are less than 1 % of the the US population and yet account for a strong portion of AIDS cases in the US.

Gay men, well if it's not AIDS it's something else. On an average homosexual men die AT LEAST ten years earlier than heterosexual men. I'm not talking about Tailand or Africa, I'm talking about the US.
39 posted on 04/15/2005 10:00:00 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: crab-boy

The Commandment is "Thou Shall not MURDER," Actually.


""Innocents are killed all the time; the unborn, the born (Sun Hudson in Texas) children in Iraq (from terrorists or from US bombing runs), Terri Schiavo, or perhaps wrongly convicted prisoners who were executed.""

And does that make it right? Does that mean I can kill.


""but I guess it really depends on one's perspective and how any of these "reasons" to kill can be justified in our own minds.""


Moral Relativity. We have a justice system, law enforcement, a judge, a jury, lawyers. The question is, "Is that person a risk to society? Did that person murder? Did he or she kill or MURDER."

Do I really have to get into this in depth?


40 posted on 04/15/2005 10:05:20 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: PistolPaknMama
We are all entitled to life and liberty and property and the pursuit of happiness, but we are not entitled to deprive anyone else of those things. It is a crime to, and we have a justice system set up to punish those who do.

Only God can kill indiscriminately, not man.
41 posted on 04/15/2005 10:28:34 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Has algore written another book???


42 posted on 04/15/2005 10:29:15 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Humidston

"Because I believe that abortion is murder, I also believe that force is justified ... in an attempt to stop it," Rudolph wrote."

I can't argue with that.

Using force, deadly force to protect the life of another or yourself IS the defining verbage of "Deadly Force".


43 posted on 04/15/2005 10:31:49 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: NormsRevenge
Rudolph is a criminal, plain and simple. His kind of violence is inconsistent with pro-life values.
44 posted on 04/15/2005 10:36:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I'm not talking about Tailand or Africa, I'm talking about the US.

Well, come here to Thailand and I will be more than happy to take you to orphanages filled with children suffering the effects of AIDS. I will also be more than happy to introduce you to people here from all walks of life who also have AIDS because of inadequate sterilization of needles and other similar reasons. Sorry, AIDS is not only a gay disease.

45 posted on 04/15/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Semantics are hardly worth debating but there is little difference between murder and killing aside from potentially the level of malice.

"And does that make it right? Does that mean I can kill."

I personaly don't believe in killing in any form, but if you choose to recognize it as legitamite in any form; abortion, execution, terrorism, then yes it means you can kill/murder because you have justified it in your mind and will find others in the justice system, law enforcement, judges, juries, lawyers who will support you and thus you have granted yourself the ability to take life.

It happens everyday.


46 posted on 04/15/2005 11:00:56 AM PDT by crab-boy
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To: killjoy



I never said AIDS was an exclusivly GAY disease, but you are arguing with facts. It's all right there, Gay men are most at risk for contracting AIDs in the US. And I don't want to see anyway die because they were misinformed.

And my point is, that no one deserves to die from AIDs.

You are putting words in my mouth.


47 posted on 04/15/2005 11:18:11 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: crab-boy
""Semantics are hardly worth debating but there is little difference between murder and killing aside from potentially the level of malice.""


According to your reason our justice system charging, trying, and executing the BTK killer is as wrong as him waiting watching and indiscriminately choosing some young girl to Blindfold torture and murder.

Jessica Lunsford was 9. 9 years old safely tucked in and sleeping in her own bed when she is swept away by a stranger, who takes her from her loving family. He then rapes her. And after raping this child, he buries her alive where she dies a slow horrifying death.



This isn't Semantics this is common sense.
48 posted on 04/15/2005 11:40:35 AM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I don't believe those examples carry the same degree of malice but both would be instances of murder.

When we hear descriptions of heinous and wicked acts carried out against one another and against the innocent it makes our stomachs turn and fills us with anger. Individually our emotions desire vengeance but collectively we need to seek justice. They are very different things.

You despise and carry ill will for all murderers and so do I but killing them makes you a murderer. I agree it is common sense.


49 posted on 04/15/2005 12:23:53 PM PDT by crab-boy
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To: crab-boy



No. One is murder and the other is killing. Killing can be justified.


50 posted on 04/15/2005 1:37:47 PM PDT by LauraleeBraswell ( We must stand behind TOM DELAY!)
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