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To: spetznaz; cyborg
And if you mean that the American parish member, instead of the taxpayer, is giving dimes for (Catholic) church growth you are still wrong.

Barbrastreisand. Collections for missions were regular part of our masses ever since I was a lad.
That said, I was speaking out of bitterness as to what has happened to the Church, particularly around here (MA) and I shouldn't have done so. Was it begign neglect or something worse? At any rate, the Faith was neglected here and we are impoverished both financially and in the number of the faithful.

23 posted on 04/16/2005 12:19:19 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: thegreatbeast
No probs. I actually went too far in my response as well (mea culpa, mea maxima culpa). Although I am not a Catholic every year or so I go to visit family in St.Paul, Minnesota, who go to a Catholic church, and the scene there is pretty mush as it is in Europe. Many old members and very few young ones. I've often wondered what would have caused such a shift, but not to much avail. Might you have an answer?
25 posted on 04/16/2005 1:48:59 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: thegreatbeast; spetznaz; Petronski

Okay fair enough. I'll bet we can all agree that the state of the Roman Catholic church in America is pretty sad. I don't think having women priests, single priests marrying, girl alta servers, and other liberal machinations are the answer. I think the sex abuse cover ups had a lot to do with weakening the Church's authority and relevancy in people's lives.


26 posted on 04/17/2005 9:49:11 AM PDT by cyborg
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