Renewed charges in pie-throwing [at Ann Coulter, in Tucson]

Arizona Daily Star ^ | 4/16/05 | Kim Smith

[IonImplantGuru]

Writer Coulter, arresting officer missed 1st trial

Pima County prosecutors plan to take another shot at two men accused of throwing pies at political writer Ann Coulter, even though she didn't show up at their first trial last month.

The Pima County Attorney's Office intends to refile misdemeanor criminal damage and assault charges against Phillip Edgar Smith and William Zachary Wolff in connection with an Oct. 22 incident involving Coulter at UA's Centennial Hall, said Chief Criminal Deputy David Berkman.

The two 24-year-olds are accused of throwing cream pies at Coulter as she spoke before 2,500 people on that date.

Smith and Wolff were scheduled to go to trial March 18, but neither Coulter nor the arresting officer showed up, Berkman said.

[IonImplantGuru]

Ann's column in response to [in]action in Tucson has been posted here.

And yes, I'm aware of the rules regarding Ann Coulter threads, so here you go:

[John Lenin]

I offer my services to Ann as her bodyguard ...

[tkathy]

If these incidents are not prosecuted, they will just get worse.

[Servant of the 9]

If these incidents are not prosecuted, they will just get worse.

Ann complained about that in her column, but it didn't seem to bother her enough to get her to show up and testify.

SO9

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Or, her supporters could get ready with pies and be prepared for a counter-offensive.

[John Lenin]

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

People will have trouble taking pie throwing seriously. Visiting such primates is casting pearls to the swine.

[rdb3]

Good. Any and all assaults should be prosecuted.

rdb3 is broadcast live before a
pre-recorded studio audience

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Those are great pics. FReegards....

[Echo Talon]

Why would Coulter have to testify and not just the state prosecute? Its on tape... Not like you need the victim there to say, "yes i had a pie throw at me" you have the incident on tape. The state should prosecute these guys.

[andyandval]

Ann Coulter montage

[John Lenin]

Thanks, nice.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Coulter: "Fortunately for me, liberals not only argue like liberals, they also throw like girls..."

[Enterprise]

I agree. She should show up for the trial.

[Imaverygooddriver]

They missed because liberals throw like little girls. John Kerry case in point.

[Bob]

Ann complained about that in her column, but it didn't seem to bother her enough to get her to show up and testify.

There's no obligation on the part of a victim to show up at the trial. It's the arresting officer's job to be there.

[FormerACLUmember]

The thugs are straight out of the movie "Deliverence." Typical liberal geniuses with a combined IQ of 50.

[ChadGore]

In strict accordance with the Free Republic bylaws,
paragraph 4, sections 7, which states, and I quote,
"any mention of our beloved Ann Coulter must include her image",
I offer the following images for your exclusive viewing pleasure:

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Carville really is Gollum

[MadAnthony1776]

Squeal like a pig boys.

[Imaverygooddriver]

They also catch like little girls....

"Here comes the ball...EEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

[DustyMoment]

Why would Coulter have to testify and not just the state prosecute?

We may feel a little over protective of Ann, here, but the accusers still have the Constitutional right to confront their accuser.

[Romanov]

Is it just me, or does the guy on the right look like Quentin Tarantino?

[Imaverygooddriver]

As Kerry screamed in terror the midget secret service man stopped the hoodlum just in the nick of time before he could soil Monsoor Kerrys new Versace creme le blanc velvet shirt.

[Mr. Lucky]

If neither the victim nor the arresting officer appeared for trial, suspect that the Prosecutor's office failed to issue subpoenas advising them of the date.

[Imaverygooddriver]

Why are they covered in sheets? Do they give haircuts now when you get arrested or did they give Ann a chance to throw a pie at them?

[Ann Archy]

the AREESTING OFFICER should have been in the court!!! I thought that was the law! Oh, I forgot, Democrats do't have to FOLLOW the law.

[JLS]

If neither the victim nor the arresting officer appeared for trial, suspect that the Prosecutor's office failed to issue subpoenas advising them of the date.
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Exactly, the prosecutor is not in the covering of butt mode after Coulter's latest column. Sending a victim notice of a court appearance is hardly the same thing as asking them to come testify. And of course the incident is on tape so they don't need her to testify.

Heck do they even need the arresting officer? They show the tape. Then the ball is in the perp's court. They either can show that Coulter consented to being pied or they can't. Why would the officer need to be there?

[Fudd Fan]

"does the guy on the right look like Quentin Tarantino?"

Yes he does.

[cricket]

"John Kerry case in point.:

. . .remember that picture. . .revealing himself as the incredible faux man. . .'dufas' that he is. . .

. . .and still they praised him. . .

[Chef Dajuan]

Nope.......not pies.

FISTS!

[Chef Dajuan]

The Three Stooges made a bunch of dollars throwing pies...........

[Chef Dajuan]

If that be the case, you couldn't try anyone for murder now, could you?

Liberals shouldn't have any rights.

[FormerACLUmember]

Why are they covered in sheets? Do they give haircuts now when you get arrested or did they give Ann a chance to throw a pie at them?

The thugs are so ugly, they keep them covered as a public health measure, uncovering their hideous Deliverence pusses just long enough to snap mug shots.

[GreenHornet]

If these incidents are not prosecuted, they will just get worse.

You are absolutely correct. There have been several incidents of this type in recent weeks, and little, if anything, is being done about it by the authorities where these attacks have occurred. A lot of people will just laugh it off as a "harmless prank", since the attacker is "only throwing a pie". The lack of consequences will only embolden others. It's just a matter of time before one of these clowns decides to go after someone with a knife or gun, rather than a pie or salad dressing.

[Texas Mom]

Wolff, in an e-mail to the Star, said, "Given that I hear that the prosecutor's office is terribly overburdened, I find it rather absurd that this is being pursued."

Yea Wolff, it was only a case of assault after all.

There has been pie throwing assaults against Chrystal and Horowitz since then and if nothing is done and these cases aren't pursued, it will be open season on conservatives on college campuses.

Coulter,Chrystal and Horowitz better show up at these court hearing or have an representative show up in their places.

[MarkL]

Why would Coulter have to testify and not just the state prosecute? Its on tape... Not like you need the victim there to say, "yes i had a pie throw at me" you have the incident on tape. The state should prosecute these guys.

Exactly... If that were the case (that the victim has to testify), then it would be impossible to prosecute murder suspects.

I suspect this has more to do with the arresting officer not showing up, than Ann not showing up. I think that they just wanted to take a dig at Ann.

Mark

[international american]

Dumb and ugly.....figures : )

[international american]

"Kevin Haywood, a commander with the University of Arizona Police Department, said he had been unaware that the arresting officer failed to show up in court.

"If we are aware of an officer failing to appear, we would follow up on that," Haywood said. "

Duh......

[wildbill]

These incidents have already gotten worse. The list of assaulted conservatives now includes Bill Kristol and David Horowitz.

I know that it is an imposition on these people to take their time from their jobs and the money to go back to these cities, but someone HAS to do it.

[catonsville]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Dan Evans]

We may feel a little over protective of Ann, here, but the accusers still have the Constitutional right to confront their accuser.

The accuser, not the victim. Often the victim is incapacitated, intimidated, or dead.

[Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek]

To:
Why would Coulter have to testify and not just the state prosecute? Its on tape... Not like you need the victim there to say, "yes i had a pie throw at me" you have the incident on tape. The state should prosecute these guys.

Exactly... If that were the case (that the victim has to testify), then it would be impossible to prosecute murder suspects.

I suspect this has more to do with the arresting officer not showing up, than Ann not showing up. I think that they just wanted to take a dig at Ann.

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Quite possibly true. I would like to hear from someone who knows the procedural niceties here. With arresting officer to attest to the identity of the perps, and tape of the event to establish the assault, is the victim's testimony required? I suspect the answer is yes. A defense attorney would have an appealable objection if the (live and available) victim were not available to testify to the assault, and identify the perps.

Sorry, but video evidence can be manufactured. Consider it a precaution for defending YOU against some future entrapment scam.

[Christian4Bush]

Most EXCELLENT!!!

[andyandval]

Glad y'all like. :D

[Echo Talon]

We may feel a little over protective of Ann, here, but the accusers still have the Constitutional right to confront their accuser.

Yes and the accuser is the state. I got in trouble when i was 19 for having friend sister out past curfew she was 17 the police took her to the station, and charge me with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. SHE didn't press charges OR her parents(her parents like me) BUT the state pressed charges against me. Same thing could happen here.

[Echo Talon]

You know what, thinking of assault... think of MY prior history. Me and a friend were at a dance club, playing pool and were messing around and starting wrestling in the club. The bouncer threw all of us out, my friend was drunk(they didn't serve alcohol in this club it was a teen thing) my friend got into a fight with the bouncer and the bouncer pinned him to the ground of of his bouncer buddies tried to come outside to help him, he got 1/2 way out the door and i slammed the door on him crushing him with the door(it was a huge wooden door I threw my body into the door as hard as i could) then that guy at smashed went back inside and called the cops. then I told the guy to let my friend up or i was going to kick him in the head... so he let him up... we then got in my truck and he got my license plate. i dropped my 2 buddies off and proceeded to drive home, and was then arrested. couple days later got a letter in the mail for "assault" it said "illegal touching of a person without permission" something like that. I got a lawyer and and a few months later went to court, the bouncer never showed up and the charges were dropped. EVEN though that night the police took me back to the club and the bouncer IDed me. Maybe some laws need to be changed on assault? I was in the wrong and got off totally free of this charge.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Man, Kerry's technique in football throwing looks rather... unique. Did he learn that in France?

[LtKerst]

I offer my services to Ann as her bodyguard

I offer my services as Her "Kept Boyfriend" and Surrogate
Father of Her many Future Children.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Carvile IS Golem! It must be true!

[John Lenin]

Stand in line ...