Skip to comments.Prophecy points to "Olive" Pope
Posted on 04/17/2005 12:39:43 AM PDT by NYer
Rome, April 11 (Reuters): Maybe it describes the colour of his skin or place of birth.
But the next Pope will be the Olive Pope, according to a 12th century prophecy that foresees just two remaining pontificates before the end of the world.
The often-cited and contested prediction is attributed to St Malachy, an Irish archbishop recognised by members of the church for his ability to read the future and who was canonised more than 800 years ago.
St Malachy was said to have had a vision during a trip to Rome around 1139 of the remaining 112 Popes before the Last Judgment, the time when the Bible says God separates the wicked from the righteous at the end of time.
The next Pope will be number 111 on that list and is described in the text as the Glory of the Olive.
Like any good prophecy, there is plenty of room for interpretation: he could be olive skinned, heralding from Latin America, Africa or the Mediterranean.
It could even be a Pope of Jewish origin, since the olive branch is a biblical symbol for the people of Israel, speculated Italys La Stampa paper.
Malachy-watchers had long speculated the Olive Pope would come from the Order of Saint Benedict, a branch of which is known as the Olivetans. But at the age of 93, the only Benedictine cardinal is now too old to become Pope. The cut-off age is 80.
The Malachy prophecy has been the subject of controversy for centuries. Critics say it is a forgery, possibly distributed as campaign propaganda in the late 16th century to favour a cardinal during the conclave.
But believers point to similarities with the pontiffs. Pope John Paul II, number 110, was described in the prophecy as de labore solis or of the labour of the sun.
He was born on May 18, 1920, the same day as a solar eclipse. The pontiff was buried on April 8, 2005 the same day as a partial eclipse, visible in the Americas.
Some take the prophecy relating to John Paul less literally and say it simply referred to the Polish Popes birthplace in eastern Europe. The sun rises in the East. The 109th on the list, Pope John Paul I, was dubbed as de medietate lunae or half moon by the prophecy.
More pressing, perhaps, for doomsayers are the references to the last Pope on the list Petrus Romanus, or Peter the Roman, and makes mention of the destruction of the city of seven hills Rome.
I LOVE Ratzinger! I hope he DOES become pope, but I don't think it'll happen. He's very conservative and really knows his stuff. Most of the Cardinals think very highly of him, too. Don't let a little snippet of video guide your opinion of this fine man.
Olive pope, mhm, black or green.
There is an old saying: He who enters a conclave as a Pope exits as a Cardinal.
Cardinal Lustiger from France was born Jewish, as I recall, and converted.
The olive means that the new Pope might have olive skin or come from a group where many have olive skin.
Pole Olive? I didn't even know she was Catholic!
I think you meant Pope Olive, unless you've secretly got a thing for her. :-)
So what does Ratzinger have to do with olives?
That is very Austin Powers of you!
Judging from you post it looks like Malachy's accuracy is about 25%.
One good thing my friend Rossi told me , if we get the Olive Pope it won't be long before the arrival of the Martini Pope.
Maybe he will be a sour and rotund man given to eating pimentoes or, perhaps, a martini drinker.
if the new Pope, whoever he may be, has ever used an Olivetti typewriter at some time in his past - look out; another prophesy fulfilled.
He spoke of the secrecy, and said he's not a fan of it. He went onto say that the Cardinals would never lobby for themselves, but get other Cardinals to do it for them.
So much for praying to the Holy Spirit for guidance.