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OKC Bombing Al Qaida Linked
NewsMax ^ | 4/17/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/17/2005 12:09:59 PM PDT by wagglebee

Bombshell new evidence ignored by the FBI suggests a link between the Oklahoma City bombing and the man who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing and who later drew up the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks, Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby is set to report Sunday night.

"It's amazing to me that not more has been made of those phone records,” Oklahoma City attorney Michael Johnston tells Cosby, for her tenth anniversary special on the 1995 attack. The explosive new evidence shows that OKC bombing co-conspirator Terry Nichols repeatedly called a boarding house in [the Philippines'] Cebu City, an establishment that has been linked to al Qaida Twin Tower bomber Ramzi Yousef.

The same kind of ANFO fertilizer fuel bomb was used in that attack and the one two years later that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Additional phone records dismissed by earlier investigations show that repeated calls were made from Terry Nichols' home to a place called Star Glad Lumber in the Philippines.

"Star Glad Lumber is operated by a man whose brother and cousin were both notorious terrorists, splinter groups of the Abu Sayyaf terror group in the Philippines,” Johnston tells Cosby.

After Yousef's Philippine bomb factory was uncovered in February 1995, Philippine police discovered three versions of the 9/11 plot on his laptop computer.

In one formulation, Yousef intended to plant bombs on 12 U.S. airliners flying over the Pacific, with each bomb to be detonated simultaneously.

A second variation involved bombing planes over U.S. territory.

A third version of the plans discovered on Yousef's computer envisioned hijacking multiple airliners in the U.S. and crashing them into national landmarks. The World Trade Center and Pentagon were mentioned specifically.

Investigators say that after his capture, Yousef's uncle, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, took the plans and presented them to Osama bin Laden, who decided in finance the third version.

Cosby's special report will also delve into claims made by Yousef's al Qaida partner in the Philippines, Abdul Hakim Murad - who was captured on the spot after Yousef fled.

On the morning of April 19, 1995 - the day of the OKC blast - Murad reportedly told a guard at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City where he was being held that he and Yousef were behind the attack.

Reporting for Insight Magazine in 2002, investigative journalist Kenneth Timmerman detailed the episode:

"Lt. Philip Rojas, a prison guard, asked Murad what he thought [about the blast] and found his response so startling that he informed his superiors. They, in turn, called the FBI.

"Special Agents Francis J. Pellegrino and Brian G. Parr arrived later that morning, within hours after the Oklahoma City blast. 'Murad responded to the guard's question by stating that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing,' they reported in a witness report. 'A short time later, Murad passed a note to the guard, again claiming that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing in Oklahoma City.'"

Timmerman said that the "Liberation Army" was a fictitious organization used as a code by Yousef, and other al Qaida members "whenever they are making announcements" of responsibility for terrorist attacks.

Tune in to the Fox News Channel, Sunday, 9 p.m. ET, for Rita Cosby's special report: "The Oklahoma City Bombing: Unanswered Questions."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; clinton; conspiracy; fbi; jihadinamerica; kennethtimmerman; murrahbuilding; okcbombing; oklahomacitybombing; osamabinladen; terrorism; terrynichols; timothymcveigh; wtcattack
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"It's amazing to me that not more has been made of those phone records,” Oklahoma City attorney Michael Johnston tells Cosby,

This is further evidence of the Clinton administration's incompetence and culpability in their mishandling of the terrorist threat to America.

1 posted on 04/17/2005 12:10:01 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

2 posted on 04/17/2005 12:15:03 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Chat is my milieu)
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To: wagglebee

Suuuuuuuprise, Suuuprise. Not.


3 posted on 04/17/2005 12:15:23 PM PDT by chiller (DONE: Gore, taxes, terrorism,Kerry, Old Media. TO DO: Judges, Tort, IRS, Soc.Sec.,borders..)
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To: wagglebee; Neets; Darksheare; scott0347; timpad; Conspiracy Guy; NYC GOP Chick; MeekOneGOP; ...

bookmarking and pinging

gang: fyi ping


4 posted on 04/17/2005 12:19:28 PM PDT by King Prout (blast and char it among fetid buzzard guts!)
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To: wagglebee

You can't just blame Clinton. If this is true, it means the FBI has some high-level rot that goes deeper than a couple of presidential appointees. If career police officers are able to turn their backs on clear evidence of a link between AQ and OKC --- and do it consistently and repeatedly for 10 years --- then there is something deeply and severly rotten in the FBI.

Clinton is indeed rotten. No doubt about that. But if this AQ-OKC connection turns out to be true, the rot in the FBI is much bigger and longer-lasting than Clinton.


5 posted on 04/17/2005 12:19:39 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: wagglebee

"Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby is set to report Sunday night" Big difference between being set to report, and actually reporting. After ten years, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the truth to emerge on this one.


6 posted on 04/17/2005 12:19:52 PM PDT by TBall
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To: wagglebee
Star Glad Lumber is operated by a man whose brother and cousin were both notorious terrorists, splinter groups of the Abu Sayyaf terror group in the Philippines...

The proprietor of Star Glad Lumber is not the terrorist, only his brother and cousin. Just because he was calling a Lumber store in the Philippines whose owner just happens to have notorious terrorists as brothers doesn't prove anything. Why, most of us probably telephone plenty of stores halfway round the world in terrorist hot spots.

7 posted on 04/17/2005 12:19:57 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: wagglebee

Want to know more?
Get thr DVD "megafix"


8 posted on 04/17/2005 12:21:14 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: wagglebee

This will probably be the one and only time I will watch Rita Crosby. After this, I will re-issue my ban on Crosby TV.


9 posted on 04/17/2005 12:22:19 PM PDT by pctech
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To: wagglebee

Well, well, well. At what point will the media begin to break it's blackout on stories connecting 9/11 and the many failures and corruption of the Clinton administration?


10 posted on 04/17/2005 12:22:28 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: wagglebee

Big news, little response here I see. I cannot wait to watch the program.


11 posted on 04/17/2005 12:23:36 PM PDT by jeremiah (In early reports, the sky did fall yesterday, and will fall again today......unless action is taken)
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To: wagglebee
Sorry thats Mega Fix
12 posted on 04/17/2005 12:24:21 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: wagglebee

It's about time this story gets more coverage .


13 posted on 04/17/2005 12:27:29 PM PDT by Deetes (Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick)
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To: MisterRepublican

Warren Commission...Redux? Magic Bullet Spector is STILL with us.


14 posted on 04/17/2005 12:27:56 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: wagglebee

Wonder if they'll mention Jayna Davis?

Wonder why Bush has continued the OKC/ME connection?


15 posted on 04/17/2005 12:28:10 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Adapt - Improvise - Overcome)
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To: wagglebee
You have to remember the script the Klintons wanted to advance was that the Militia groups were the real dangers to America, not foreign muslims. McVeigh had to be associated with the militias for the script to work. If you remember that was what the media repeatedly alleged. This was also necessary to motivate the gun control legislation the Klintons wanted. If you remember Klinton got a bunch of gun control through pretty easily right after the OKC bombing.
16 posted on 04/17/2005 12:29:30 PM PDT by wastoute
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To: mylife

would it be because a female journalist has been alleging this all along, Jayne Davis,

another female journalist, Laurie Myklroie, keeps claiming there is an Iraqi connection to all this as well....

who's right, who's wrong

because Ramsi Yousef is alleged to have been an Iraqi intelligence agent and the bombmaker of the 1993 WTC Bomb who worked with Yousef (I'm trying to recall if he was in fact Iraqi also) got safe haven from Saddam Hussein

we do know that Nichols' wife was Phillipino and he made frequent trips there, even the bios on Tim McVeigh mention Nichols making frequent trips to the Phillipines, interesting because McVeigh was always talking about he and Nichols having no money


17 posted on 04/17/2005 12:32:01 PM PDT by llama hunter
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To: wagglebee

Wasn't Terry Nichol's wife, Marife, from the Philippines? Anyone know her maiden name?


18 posted on 04/17/2005 12:32:22 PM PDT by SheRebel
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To: samtheman
I absolutely agree. There are probably a lot of longtime agents within the FBI, CIA and other agencies who should have been fired long ago for their incompetency. Hopefully, Negreponte will be doing just that.

Nevertheless, we cannot overlook the fact that the Clinton administration completely ignored the terrorist threat to our country. They were so bent on "lowering" the crime rate, that they ignored crime. They couldn't ignore the OKC bombing, so they found a way to "wrap it all up" and make it seem like it was the work of a couple of people, who they promptly labeled as "right wing fanatics." When the USS Cole was bombed, they basically acted as if it was an Yemeni criminal incident, when what they should have done is retaliated. Clinton's minimizing of the terrorist threat merely emboldened al Qaida; Clinton thought that if we ignored the problem it would go away, but it just got worse.

19 posted on 04/17/2005 12:32:55 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: ovrtaxt

OKC / al-Quaeda PING!!!!!


20 posted on 04/17/2005 12:34:35 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: chiller

seriously...this has been out there a while.


21 posted on 04/17/2005 12:34:38 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: wagglebee
I still think they need to take Ramzi Yousef out of his cell , stand him in front of a wall and execute him. None of these people should be being held . What's the point ? If this is true ,Terry Nichols should get the same treatment .
Why are we so damn humane with the worst monsters humanity tends to spawn ? Just get rid of them and the entire species
will be better off.
22 posted on 04/17/2005 12:35:31 PM PDT by injin
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To: llama hunter

Thers a lot of suspicious stuff the media just doesnt seem to care about


23 posted on 04/17/2005 12:37:39 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: King Prout; wagglebee; PhilDragoo; devolve; Happy2BMe; yall
bump!


24 posted on 04/17/2005 12:38:37 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: wastoute
I agree. As far as the Klintoons and their media accomplices were concerned, "right wing fanaticism" was America's biggest problem so that is who they attacked not Islamofascist terrorists.


25 posted on 04/17/2005 12:41:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
This is further evidence of the Clinton administration's incompetence and culpability in their mishandling of the terrorist threat to America.

OH MY GIVE ME A BREAK....the 'toon wanted to implicate home grown terrorist ONLY...he was protecting muslim terrorist...it had nothing whatsoever to do with incompetence. It was much more devious than that...a method to his administrations' madness....was...take a guess?

26 posted on 04/17/2005 12:42:30 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: wagglebee
Any comment from Senator Clinton?

After all, she was the 'co-President'.

27 posted on 04/17/2005 12:44:34 PM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: llama hunter

Soldier of Fortune ran a story for a couple of issues several years ago saying there was some type of comspiracy and that McViegh and Nocols were not acting alone. Most people blew it off because it came from a "mercenary Magazine".


28 posted on 04/17/2005 12:45:36 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: wagglebee

The Clinton administration decided that the only terrorists were Christians. They played up the fundamentalist Christian angle and swept everything else under the carpet.


29 posted on 04/17/2005 12:47:35 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Rule # 4. When liberals have factual evidence that their position is wrong they ignore the evidence)
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To: chiller

It seems the way anything bad that happens in the world some Islamic group claims credit for it. You would think Al Qaida would claim credit for it to show us Americans how weak we are and how they can touch us at anytime; blah blah. But has anyone with Al Qaida claimed that? Hm, I would think OBL would.


30 posted on 04/17/2005 12:52:39 PM PDT by Skeeve14 (De Opresso Liber)
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To: llama hunter

I've read that Nichols made as many as 20 trips to the Philippines. For a guy who was so broke, that's a lot of airfare.


31 posted on 04/17/2005 12:58:19 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: martin_fierro

Well done.

John Doe #2=Jose Padilla BUMP!


32 posted on 04/17/2005 12:59:52 PM PDT by 1ofmanyfree ((No drivers lisc.for illegal aliens! They only want to vote the votes Americans dont't want ot cast))
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To: SheRebel

Marife was his 2nd wife, Marife Torres.

Interestingly, his 1st wife Lana was also Philippina, and she later married someone by the surname Padilla.

Take a look at the photos in post #2, someone else named Padilla.

Probably just a coincidence. (I suppose someone would have found a connection by now between the 2 Padillas if there is one.)


33 posted on 04/17/2005 1:00:38 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: wagglebee
Bombshell new evidence ignored by the FBI suggests a link between the Oklahoma City bombing and the man who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing and who later drew up the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks, Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby is set to report Sunday night.

This can't be right. The former Rapist-in-Chief told us this was part of the vast right-wing conspiracy under the leadership of a couple of evil, straight, white males.

And he'd never lie about such a thing.

34 posted on 04/17/2005 1:02:28 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: airborne

Pull back that nappy head of hair on her head and you will find a 666!


35 posted on 04/17/2005 1:03:13 PM PDT by 4everontheRight ( "I'm learning to dread one day at a time" --- Charlie Brown)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks.

Billdo and Shrillery are in deep cahoots with the puppet masters. Probably fancy themselves part of the puppet masters ruling elite.

The puppet masters are manipulating Al Qaeda big time. Very obviously, to some of us.

Therefore what, remains to be seen--other than the full court press to the evil global government.


36 posted on 04/17/2005 1:05:01 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: wagglebee
Clintoon was too busy getting his knob polished to be concerned about muslim terrorists. It was infinitely easier to pin it on right wing extremeists.

There is no doubt in my mind that Sandy "stuffem in your pants" Burger destroyed documents that contained handwritten notes linking Al Qaeda to the 1st WTC bombing and the Murrah Bldg bombing.

Conspiritorial thinking.........YES......when the TOON is involved you bet.

37 posted on 04/17/2005 1:05:10 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: samtheman

BINGO.


38 posted on 04/17/2005 1:05:41 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: TBall

Will even be interesting if Rita's program comes off as planned.


39 posted on 04/17/2005 1:06:19 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: TBall
After ten years, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the truth to emerge on this one.

Not from Rita "my sources tell me" Cosby or News "quotes out of context" Max.

40 posted on 04/17/2005 1:07:05 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (It's the tag line you're upset about, isnít it?)
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To: wagglebee
Of course it's linked. The FBI not only had Howe as an informant at Elohim City, they also had the head of the organization itself.

Hell, they still have footage of the bombing they won't release.

41 posted on 04/17/2005 1:09:21 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: wagglebee

I would hardly call this "new" evidence. Many have written about it for some time, including Pat Briley (aka OKCSubmariner). What seems to be new is that someone is actually reporting it in a major media outlet.


42 posted on 04/17/2005 1:10:56 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Watch for ABC news to support this. George Stephanopolis has two promos this morning for stories with this angle for 10th anniversary Tuesday.
43 posted on 04/17/2005 1:13:18 PM PDT by Selene
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To: texasbluebell

I've always wondered about that too. Someone paid for those tickets and it should have been traceable. If he paid cash that is also a strong indication of other's involvement since he was essentially broke.


44 posted on 04/17/2005 1:14:04 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: texasbluebell
Remember the man who shot George Wallace? He was also broke and unemployed but managed to fly around the USA following G. Wallace.

Why is Bush covering up for Clinton? Where is Sandy Berger now?

The MSM is a huge "bleeping" joke!
45 posted on 04/17/2005 1:14:38 PM PDT by Tannerone
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To: mylife

This is one of the areas where I go against my typical--more-info-is-better stance.

I do not want to know a lot of those details. The perspective of eternal life in Jesus will be soon enough to look abck and realize the treachery in our midst.


46 posted on 04/17/2005 1:15:18 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: MizSterious
"I would hardly call this "new" evidence."

None of it is new evidence. And OKCSubmariner? He was run off this board because of certain people who decided he was a liability.

47 posted on 04/17/2005 1:16:58 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: samtheman
If career police officers are able to turn their backs on clear evidence of a link between AQ and OKC --- and do it consistently and repeatedly for 10 years --- then there is something deeply and severly rotten in the FBI.

This then begs the question as to what other agencies have been infiltrated and who is pulling the strings?

48 posted on 04/17/2005 1:17:49 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: wagglebee

No, doesn't everyone remember?...It was all Rush Limbaugh's fault!</sarc>


49 posted on 04/17/2005 1:20:10 PM PDT by paltz (New York is a blue city talking for an overwhelmingy Red State)
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To: doug from upland; Shermy

A must read and a must watch tonight!


50 posted on 04/17/2005 1:23:26 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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