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Four cats shot dead in Sheboygan (Wisconsin) area
WFRV 5 ^ | 04/17/2005 | AP

Posted on 04/17/2005 8:44:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

SHEBOYGAN, Wis. (AP) Some hunters could be jumping the gun on a proposal to allow the hunting of feral cats in Wisconsin.

Early last week, authorities in the Sheboygan area found the bodies of four cats on a road near a cemetary. All had been shot.

Sheboygan Sheriff's Department Sgt. Doug Tuttle said the animals were likely killed by a .22-caliber gun. Authorities are looking for anyone involved in the shooting.

A brown tabby named Junior that belonged to the Obear family was among the dead, said Sarah Obear, 12. The cats were found April 11 about a mile from the family's home, she said.

``One of our neighbors was walking her dog and she saw some dead cats on the road,'' Obear said. ``She had one of our flyers and she noticed the markings on our cat's face and told us.''

The family had made flyers a day after their cat went missing on Easter Sunday.

``He's gone missing before, but the most he was missing was a day or two,'' Obear said. ``It's kind of sad.''

About 57 percent of Wisconsin hunters who attended Conservation Congress meetings on Monday supported a proposal that would classify wild, free-roaming cats as an unprotected species.

That designation would allow licensed hunters to shoot feral cats, which are considered an invasive species that kills songbirds and other wildlife.

For the proposal to become law, the state Legislature would have to pass a bill and get Gov. Jim Doyle to sign it, but the governor has said he would reject it.


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KEYWORDS: animalrights; cats; hunting; meowyoung; vikingkitties; wisconsin
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1 posted on 04/17/2005 8:44:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Authorities are looking for anyone involved in the shooting.

I hope they catch the perp. And prosecute, convict, and incarcerate the perp.

May the perp suffer every indignity I can imagine.

2 posted on 04/17/2005 8:47:21 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The Goobers just can't wait to start killing.

And, as predicted, a family's cat gets shot, too.

Thankfully, the governor will keep this liberal bastion from becoming an even bigger laughingstock.

3 posted on 04/17/2005 8:47:40 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur
ONLY FOUR CATS??

Geez, do these guys need glasses?

Ya can't kill enough cats!

..............FRegards

4 posted on 04/17/2005 8:52:52 PM PDT by gonzo
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To: sinkspur

How do you know they were hunters? It could have been some stupid kids, or maybe even some PETA members.


5 posted on 04/17/2005 8:54:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
They were goobers, whoever they were. Is it common in Wisconsin for a single person to shoot four cats?

I figure it's one of the shoe-sized IQers, with lots of time on his hands, waiting for the lakes to thaw.

6 posted on 04/17/2005 8:56:41 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur
Thankfully, the governor will keep this liberal bastion from becoming an even bigger laughingstock.

Well, Wisconsin isn't liberal, I can tell you that for sure. Doyle is Governor by default, thanks to Tommy's hard-headed little brother.

7 posted on 04/17/2005 8:56:59 PM PDT by BlkConserv
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

PETA


8 posted on 04/17/2005 8:57:00 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: gonzo

Like the joke about lawyers on the bottom of the ocean... Its a good start...


9 posted on 04/17/2005 8:57:04 PM PDT by chadwimc
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; John O

If I were a betting person, we will see PETA ads soon on this feral cat business.

Pretty soon, we will see little children raising money to save the kitties, UNICEF will be putting out children's records, and the cat will replace the whale and dolphin as the animal we should protect with our very lives, if necessary.

Geez.


10 posted on 04/17/2005 8:59:24 PM PDT by andie74 (Awfully fine cereal flakes you got, Mrs. McDonough.)
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To: BlkConserv
Well, Wisconsin isn't liberal, I can tell you that for sure.

Of course it's liberal. Wisconsin went for Gore, and for Kerry.

11 posted on 04/17/2005 8:59:24 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur
I figure it's one of the shoe-sized IQers, with lots of time on his hands, waiting for the lakes to thaw.

Now if this happened in Texas, the cats would have been BBQed on a spittle. :-)

12 posted on 04/17/2005 8:59:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: sinkspur

Families ought to keep their cats (and dogs for that matter) at home, then they wouldn't be in danger. I see cats on the road all the time, killed by cars. Maybe all pet cats should be house cats.


13 posted on 04/17/2005 9:01:15 PM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: sinkspur

You and I both know that Kerry benefitted from massive vote fraud that would have made both Daley and his father jealous.


14 posted on 04/17/2005 9:01:19 PM PDT by BlkConserv
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The common house cat (felis domesticus) is not a "wild, free-roaming" cat, hence the species name domesticus (domesticated). Even if it spends its whole life outside, it will still seek shelter with humans. If the animals weren't rabid than this is more serious than most would believe, more than just a small lack of common sense on the part of the hunters. What's worse is that they didn't have any form of common awareness for creatures of sentimental value. It's these less recognized evils that go unnoticed until they flourish into the kind that allows for the destruction of many major forms of sentient life. By that time it will be too late. It's the little things that count.


15 posted on 04/17/2005 9:02:54 PM PDT by Gava
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To: neutrino
Early last week, authorities in the Sheboygan area found the bodies of four cats on a road near a cemetary.

Authorities are looking for anyone involved in the shooting.

Yeah, I bet the cops are going through and asking the residents a whole bunch of questions. Chances are, however, they are being met with stiff refusals to answer.

16 posted on 04/17/2005 9:03:09 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! It appears that SABERTOOTH got himself suspended. Again. ????)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
HOW CONVIENENT.
17 posted on 04/17/2005 9:08:49 PM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a keynote speaker at a Wellstone memorial.........!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Not many animals can breed as fast as cats can. When they go wild, which is what they nearly do when they are outside, they can cause problems.

What irks me is all these do gooders who fail to take care of their animals and do not have them fixed. Instead they'll let them out and the next thing they got litter after litter of kittens. Then they take the kittens to the humane society and let them handle it. A female cat can breed like everything and have several litters in a year. I have had several pregnant cats dumped off at my place.

On the farm, we took care of the problem ourselves.


18 posted on 04/17/2005 9:10:26 PM PDT by crz
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Attention all units: APB on cat shooter! Repeat: cat shooter on the loose - considered armed and dangerous!

These people need to get a grip. Shooting feral cats is a good thing and will - and should - continue for as long as the things breed. If hand-wringers and cat owners took their heads out of their cat's @sses and actually understood the problem we might be able to construct a reasonable solution. Until then, it'll just have to be the three S's - Shoot, Shovel and Shut-up.


19 posted on 04/17/2005 9:11:06 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: Gava

Oh, they dont roam free when they are outside? Do they hunt? Do they run when they see anyone and do not want to come back into the house?


21 posted on 04/17/2005 9:14:11 PM PDT by crz
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

22 posted on 04/17/2005 9:15:32 PM PDT by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: sinkspur
Is it common in Wisconsin for a single person to shoot four cats?

I don't know, do you think the number should be higher. Maybe we should count kills per hour, are kills per day. Then we could establish a base line, for the greatest number. Then we could all chip in and buy the best marksman a trophy. Would that make you feel better. The fact is I have a little chipmonk that lives at the back of the house, he comes when I call him. And I'll tell you real quick what will happen to any cat after him.

23 posted on 04/17/2005 9:19:04 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Early last week, authorities in the Sheboygan area found the bodies of four cats on a road near a cemetary. All had been shot....

Authorities are looking for anyone involved in the shooting.

I'd put out an APB on Tweety-Bird.

24 posted on 04/17/2005 9:20:38 PM PDT by Liberator
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To: Federal Reserve Note
First of all hunters don't hunt with .22 caliber guns

They do if they're hunting small game, such as rabbits or squirrels.

When I go hunting I prefer a .22 caliber rimfire rifle.

25 posted on 04/17/2005 9:21:17 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: neutrino; sinkspur; Gava

I listened to the professor running the study (or a similar one from UW) behind the recent legislation a couple years back on Minnesota's public radio. He stated at that time that a huge portion of small mammal and avian mortality (if memory serves ~60%) was due to "domestic" felines - that is, those with homes to go to for care and feeding - not feral cats. Of course, feral cats are contributors, too, but the real heavy lifting of wildlife killing was done by the dear little tabbys sitting on gramma's lap. The cats don't kill to eat - only for the joy of killing.

The mostly liberal left callers to the program went absolutely apoplectic and did everything short of making death threats. Hate the hunter - love the killer. Seems that some otherwise gentle folks just wanna let 'em out for little killing before going to bed.

Outdoor cats and dogs in packs are out for killing - period. I endorse the move to erradicate them on sight as vermin. If people really cared about their animals, they would control them. For my money, there is NO reason to let a cat outside unless it is fenced or leashed. As an aside, I have one of both species and if they were freely roaming, then I'd accept the consequences.

One last note for wanna be hunters - use something a little heavier than a .22 because they are unbelievably tough critters to kill without a solid brain pan hit. As Robert Raurke said: "Use enough gun."


26 posted on 04/17/2005 9:25:32 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: sinkspur

A Texan calling somebody a goober?

If you had ever been to this area, where my father was raised, you would know that there are barns everywhere once you get outside Milwaukee. These wild cats make homes in these barns and multiply like a son of a (gun).

There is a gross overpopulation of cats im Wisconsin,something has to be done to cull the herd. Any suggestions?


27 posted on 04/17/2005 9:29:58 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (America is gradually becoming the Godless,out-of-control golden-calf scene,in "The Ten Commandments")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I'd support a proposal to permit the shooting of feral hunters


28 posted on 04/17/2005 9:32:13 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Someone shot the cat that lives at our local fair grounds where the son works. It was the designated "fair" cat. It was a pet. They shot it twice, but it lived.

I know some people hate cats, but you shouldn't go around killing them. My mom wants to shoot the dogs next door that bark all the time, but of course she can't do that.

29 posted on 04/17/2005 9:33:20 PM PDT by Vicki (Re-Vote or Revolt in Washington State. Send the Feds.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
The cats don't kill to eat - only for the joy of killing

When I was a kid on my dad's farm you could here the bobwhite's call, but not anymore. They roost on the ground and if a house cat finds their nest it will not stop killing till they are all dead.

30 posted on 04/17/2005 9:34:17 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Gava
Even if it spends its whole life outside, it will still seek shelter with humans.

Actually, that's incorrect. The difference between felis domesticus and felis sylvestris is primarily in their body size, their vocalizations, and the length of their tail (domesticus is slightly smaller, has a longer tail, and meows more). Socially and behaviorally, there is little difference between the two.
31 posted on 04/17/2005 9:35:38 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: sinkspur

"The Goobers just can't wait to start killing. And, as predicted, a family's cat gets shot, too."

Note to goobers: if you kill my pets, I will kill you.


32 posted on 04/17/2005 9:42:54 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: sinkspur
Wisconsin went for Gore, and for Kerry.

You'd vote for Gore too if some millionaire old lady offered you some free cigarettes. LOLOLOL

33 posted on 04/17/2005 9:43:26 PM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
These people need to get a grip. Shooting feral cats is a good thing and will - and should - continue for as long as the things breed. If hand-wringers and cat owners took their heads out of their cat's @sses and actually understood the problem we might be able to construct a reasonable solution. Until then, it'll just have to be the three S's - Shoot, Shovel and Shut-up.

I agree. And I am married to a cat lover, and Father of a cat lover. But our cat has been fixed; and is an outdoor cat, since the smell in a kitty-litter box is enough to curl your toenails. I'll take a dog any day. As a pet, cats suck.

But they do make good target practice. LOL

34 posted on 04/17/2005 9:44:51 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

"These people need to get a grip. Shooting feral cats is a good thing"

But in this case, at least one of the cats was not feral, and was in fact a lost pet. For many people, pets are part of the family, loved and cherished. We're supposed to have enough sense to not go off randomly killing things.


35 posted on 04/17/2005 9:47:13 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: neutrino
Cats belong inside your home. Letting them 'roam' is extremely irresponsible.

Additionally, they should be spayed or neutered unless one is actively engaged in breeding them for sale.

I love my cat. But he is never allowed outside unless it's in our fenced backyard under constant supervision.

Free roaming cats should be treated as vermin. Their owners should be fined for allowing them to roam.

L

36 posted on 04/17/2005 9:48:19 PM PDT by Lurker (Remember the Beirut Bombing; 243 dead Marines. The House of Assad and Hezbollah did it..)
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To: Fenris6

The fact is that the cat got out of the house - somehow - before it went missing. My guess would be that the family let the cat out and somebody shot it. All well and good if the cat left their property. If this was the case, then good sense is on the side of people erradicating a verminous pest - not on the side of people that don't understand the nature of their pets and foolishly enable them to kill indiscriminantly.


37 posted on 04/17/2005 9:52:25 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: Cobra64
"I'll take a dog any day" I prefer dogs but have no backyard, so my wife got us two cats. They are the most interesting and lovable pets I've ever had, even for cats.

Let me ask this: if I see a dog running around the neighborhood or park without a leash, would it be cool for me to shoot it? Your dog who dug out from under your fence? BLAM! Want to explain to little Johnny why his best pal is splattered all over the fenceline?

Do you see where the cat-lovers are coming from?

38 posted on 04/17/2005 9:54:33 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
My guess would be that the family let the cat out and somebody shot it. All well and good if the cat left their property. If this was the case, then good sense is on the side of people erradicating a verminous pest

Weird. I'm a native Texan, and even we have the "ggod sense" to attempt to find the owner when we discover a stray. You guys just shoot them, huh? What about lost kids?

39 posted on 04/17/2005 9:56:18 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

Our dog is trained. Further, the dog is part of the family. The cat is... just an animal that could shive-a-git about being with humans other than being fed. Again, my wife and children love their cat; but as far as I'm concerned, I do NOT like cats. They... nevermind. /rant


40 posted on 04/17/2005 10:01:10 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Fenris6

I think you are overstating the cat owners case. This is primarily a rural problem and NOBODY is advocating shooting cats sitting on the porch along a city street. The setting is rural and the predator cats (meaning ALL cats) are uncontrolled and highly destructive to wildlife. For the same reasons rural people havethinned barncats and shot strange dogs - especially those in packs - for years, this solution is just and smart. Cat owners need only to understand their predators and responsibly control them to avoid consequences to their animals.


41 posted on 04/17/2005 10:01:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: Cobra64
Our dog is trained. Further, the dog is part of the family. The cat is... just an animal that could shive-a-git about being with humans other than being fed

Ya, I know the type. Had a few that were non-responsive parasites. But my current cats are different. Cool cats DO exist, you just got a bad one ;

42 posted on 04/17/2005 10:05:02 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

According to the article, at least one of those 4 cats was a housepet.


43 posted on 04/17/2005 10:06:56 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

"I think you are overstating the cat owners case."

I am. We have a farm/ranch outside of Houston, so I'm familiar with the benefits and problems with stray cats and irresponsible owners.

Problem is that a significant minority of idiots will use this as an excuse to switch from mailbox-bashing-drivebys to "lets go on a cat-killing spree". Just look over this thread.


44 posted on 04/17/2005 10:11:25 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: sinkspur

"I figure it's one of the shoe-sized IQers, with lots of time on his hands, waiting for the lakes to thaw."

That's just what I was thinking of the owners who let the cat out AGAIN after knowing it was prone to straying.


45 posted on 04/17/2005 10:12:01 PM PDT by AggieCPA (Howdy, Ags!)
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To: All
still wondering...

if I see a dog running around the neighborhood or park without a leash, would it be cool for me to shoot it?

46 posted on 04/17/2005 10:14:59 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

You mean y'all go chasing all over the country for poor little tabby's that lost their way? That's sweet.

Lem: 'Hey Clem! What's thet?'
Clem: 'Tarnation! Looks to be a purebred Persian!'
Lem: 'Well, le's get down off'n yer tractor an go fetch thet lil' darlin'.'
Clem: 'Right y'ar! Hell, boy, I kin al'ays get this here crop planted another time, but a body sure don't get a chance to rescue a fine animal like thet 'un ever'day!'
Lem: 'Shee-it! Looks like she rescued a fat hen outa' yer coop, too!'
Clem: 'Awww, ain't she a hungry one? Mebbe she'll go fer a bite of mah sardine sandwhich too. I'm sure her folks'll be glad to see thet darling agin. Here, kitty, kitty, kitty!'


47 posted on 04/17/2005 10:15:11 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: Federal Reserve Note

"This story stinks. First of all hunters don't hunt with .22 caliber guns. Second of all nobody is going to shoot around a cemetary, unless you're a wiccan or gothic in nature or something. "

Really? Then I must be doing it all wrong. Maybe those squirrels just happened to have heart attacks or something right as I shot them.


48 posted on 04/17/2005 10:15:26 PM PDT by AggieCPA (Howdy, Ags!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
You mean y'all go chasing all over the country for poor little tabby's that lost their way? That's sweet.

LOL. Good one.

49 posted on 04/17/2005 10:16:20 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Liberator

The question is - can Alf account for his whereabouts at the time in question?


50 posted on 04/17/2005 10:16:30 PM PDT by AggieCPA (Howdy, Ags!)
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