Elected Libertarian brings change to county politics

www.lp.org ^ | 4 17 05 | J. Daniel Cloud

[libertarianben]

If the libertarians have their way with small government, no income tax, less spending. Then their plan on immigration is fine. But with the "safety net" we have now it is a horrible idea I agree.

[tacticalogic]

Will he be able to stifle himself from blurting it out?

I guess we'll have to wait and see. Some people are just so obsessive they have to talk about something wheather it's the topic of conversation or not.

[lonestar]

"...sort of..." ????????

[truth_seeker]

"Libertarians need to run at all levels."

Do Libertarians support open borders?

Do Libertarians support legalizing methamphetamine, in my neighborhood?

Do Libertarians support legalizing gay marriage, polygamy?

Do Libertarians support defending ourselves, pre-emptively perhaps, against 1.2 billion muslims?

[Mind-numbed Robot]

I am 67 myself and not able to afford a community like Sun Lakes. My school taxes are outrageous but I haven't tried to avoid them. My complaint, and perhaps the complaint of the seniors you cite, is that the money is ill spent and not accomplishing the intent. About 50% of our taxes go to "administration" with the blacks and the Hispanics fighting over who should have the largest share of the pie. More money will only mean more corruption.

Kids can get an education if they want one. Building fancier buildings and the other stuff they want is just a sop to the labor unions and the teachers unions. Maybe that is what these seniors see.

[mugs99]

Do Libertarians support open borders?
Do Libertarians support legalizing methamphetamine, in my neighborhood?
Do Libertarians support legalizing gay marriage, polygamy?
Do Libertarians support defending ourselves, pre-emptively perhaps, against 1.2 billion muslims?

Some do and some don't, just like Republicans and Democrats. More Libertarians belong to the Republican Party than Harry Brownes Libertarian Party.
Many are leaving the Republican Party now that the RP is swinging left and they are changing the Libertarian movement. You can call them Southpark Republicans or Neo Libertarians, but the result is the same. They will be the dominating political power of the future.
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[truth_seeker]

"More Libertarians belong to the Republican Party than Harry Brownes Libertarian Party.
Many are leaving the Republican Party now that the RP is swinging left and they are changing the Libertarian movement."

After Browne's post 9/11/2001 anti-American rants, that party needs some changing.

Mostly distancing itself far, far from him. That's for sure.

I sure can't waste time supporting a party which is pro-methamphetamine, pro-gay-marriage, pro-open immigration, and criticizes America for fighting back, after 9/11/2001.

Surely far more attractive alternatives do exist. Libertarianism isn't the one for me.

[eccl1212]

but you are looking at it from one perspective, that of youth

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actually no.... I am one of the old farts.

[eccl1212]

a young person I imagine,

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wrong again

[Chuck54]

"...sort of..." ????????

Redneck speak for "kind of"......

sorry for the confusion..............

[secretagent]

Let's end the public school system, and all of the taxation that supports it. Private schools would provide better education at a lower cost, and would be responsive to their customers'--the parents'--requirements.

End all government "education" conscription.

[secretagent]

Eldsters with high net worths who expect money from young people with lower net worths, are the ones being selfish.

I don't object to their selfishness, but to their support of plunder in "the pursuit of happiness".

[Graymatter]

That's socialism. No shortages of resentment.
When I was a libertarian they were advocating no school taxes for anybody. No Social Security either.

[Rammer]

Whoa. Settle down there.

Notice my first line. I think it's a great idea.

Read that again. I think it's a great idea.

I just wish we could also do away with Social Security (welfare for the elderly), Medicare, Medicaid, AFDC, etc. etc.

That's my only point.

But hey, don't let my lightheartedness interfere with your rant, old man. Watch that blood pressure, ok?

[Walkenfree]

Sorry Rammer, but Social Security is not exclusively for the elderly! Many young disabled folks draw Social Security Disability. Heaven help you if you happen to be in your 30's and become totally disabled, with not enough work history to draw a retirement or cover your excessive medical expenses.
Have you ever researched how much taxpayers pay to our "elected officials"? ( Which they borrow from the Social Security Funds by combining it with the General Fund? Check out their Medical benefits "We the People" provide for them. Quit picking on the "Old Farts".
Then consider the "Illegal Aliens" drawing benefits from a program called, "SSI" (Supplemental Security Insurance).
That is the Welfare program. DO more research and you'll know where to shoot your arrows.

[Rammer]

Do away with Social Security once and for all. All of it.

Yes, I know young people receive disability income through Social Security.

That's what the purchase of disability insurance is for.

Withhold any benefits provided at the expense of US taxpayers.

You guys seem to think I'm picking on old farts.

Here's the real rub: I'm picking on any beneficiary of government wealth transfers from one group to another.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

Perhaps, but that's not what this "Libertarian" is advocating. Everyone under 65 is still on the hook for everyone else's kids.

Oh, I think he does advocate it. But what he is doing is making whatever small steps he can towards Liberty on a board dominated by 3 Democrats. Call it Fabian Libertarianism.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

What you should be doing is finding a way to eliminate property taxes all together because in effect you are renting your homes from the government, you don't own them. Try not paying your propery taxes and in a few years you won't have a home.

Oh my goodness! Restore the alodial right to property?

What is next? Advocating something really radical like abolition of federal direct taxes?

[DManA]

That's not progress, that's pandering.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

actually no.... I am one of the old farts.

If misunderstanding the age of the author (you) of the statement is all I had wrong, then I am happy with that.