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Homosexual Episcopal Bishop Out to Claim Bible for Abortion-Rights Activists
LifeSiteNewsite ^ | 4/18/05

Posted on 04/18/2005 3:21:40 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

Washinton, D.C., April 18, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) The logical consequences resulting from the first ever consecration of a homosexual bishop continued to manifest themselves as Bishop V. Gene Robinson of the U.S. Episcopal Church addressed those Planned Parenthood's fifth annual prayer breakfast in Washington on Friday April 15th.

The Washington Times carried a news article in which Rev. Robinson was reported as directing his comments against "people of faith" and suggested that Planned Parenthood should target them so as to "promote abortion rights and comprehensive sex education".

The main theme of Robinson's comments dealt with the reasons surrounding last year's election results in the United States. The large number of people who voted for President Bush was, according to Robinson, a result of the disconnect between religious people and the pro-abortion mindset, saying, "In this last election we see what the ultimate result of divorce from communities of faith will do to us."

Robinson believes that the only way to defend the pro-abortion mindset is to reach out religiously. He noted that, "our defense against religious people has to be a religious defense. ... We must use people of faith to counter the faith-based arguments against us."

In essence Robinson is advocating the complete reinterpretation of the Scriptures. He is quoted in the Times article as saying "We have allowed the Bible to be taken hostage, and it is being wielded by folks who would use it to hit us over the head. We have to take back those Scriptures," he said. "You know, those stories are our stories. I tell this to lesbian folk all the time: The story of freedom in Exodus is our story. ... That's my story, and they can't have it. … We need to teach people about nuance, about holding things in tension, that this can be true and that can be true, and somewhere between is the right answer. It's a very adult way of living, you know. What an unimaginative God it would be if God only put one meaning in any verse of Scripture."

Rev. Robinson gained worldwide notoriety in 2003 when he was elevated to the office of bishop within the Episcopal Church (known as the Anglican Church outside the U.S.). Robinson had left his wife and two young daughters in 1986 and moved in with a man. His stand on abortion, however, mirrors faithfully the Episcopal Church's position on abortion, adopted in a resolution during its 71st General Convention in 1994, stating: "While we acknowledge that in this country it is the legal right of every woman to have a medically safe abortion, as Christians we believe strongly that if this right is exercised, it should be used only in extreme situations. We emphatically oppose abortion as a means of birth control, family planning, sex selection, or any reason of mere convenience."

Planned Parenthood has made limited inroads in subverting the Christian faith. The Rev. Ignacio Castuera, a Methodist and Planned Parenthood's national chaplain, indicated that the size of their clergy network, numbers around 1,400 pastors and clergy, mostly on the East and West coasts. However, Mr. Castuera said, "when you move further into the country it gets harder. ... In the center of the country we have a lot more conservative perspectives on the Bible and sex."

The comments and activities by Rev. Robinson and other clergy are not going unchallenged however. David Bereit, national director of Stop Planned Parenthood (Stopp), an organization that espouses the belief that life begins at conception and that abortion is murder, said his organization is "not going to allow Planned Parenthood to hijack Christianity." According to the Washington Times, Mr. Bereit said his group will work to build coalitions of churches who will then try to remove Planned Parenthood materials from public school sex education courses and lobby government against funding the group.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; cnim; ecusa; episcopal; generobinson; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; plannedparenthood; proaborts; religiousleft
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1 posted on 04/18/2005 3:21:43 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: little jeremiah; EdReform; DBeers; ArGee; scripter
I fear "gay" Gene is going to hell for more than one reason.
2 posted on 04/18/2005 3:24:07 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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To: sionnsar

PING


3 posted on 04/18/2005 3:25:31 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (WARNING: EXPOSURE TO THE SON MAY PREVENT BURNING.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

For the life of me, I can see what church would even WANT this clown as a member, let alone as an official.


4 posted on 04/18/2005 3:26:58 PM PDT by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Given over to a truly reprobate mind. The Apostle Paul wasn't kidding around.


5 posted on 04/18/2005 3:27:19 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Clint N. Suhks

God gave Gene Robinson over to a depraved mind...


6 posted on 04/18/2005 3:28:30 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Cecily

You beat me by 71 seconds!


7 posted on 04/18/2005 3:29:32 PM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: speed_addiction

He's a model American. He embraced his true self and left his wife and children for his homosexual lover.

/sarcasm


8 posted on 04/18/2005 3:30:48 PM PDT by thompsonsjkc
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To: Cecily
Exactly, it's beyond comprehension how this is rationalized. more here
9 posted on 04/18/2005 3:30:52 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: scripter

And yet the MSM railed against us when we said that this was just the next step on the ever slippery slope of leaving the Bible entirely. MSM, meet the evidence of our allegation. This was never about being gay it was about him being a sinner advocating more sinning. And you are going to have a hard time coming up with a better argument for sinning than telling lesbians to convert other women into abortionists 'of faith.'


10 posted on 04/18/2005 3:32:37 PM PDT by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies ....)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Planned Parenthood's fifth annual prayer breakfast

This is called mockery.

11 posted on 04/18/2005 3:33:36 PM PDT by Argus (Mi tagline es su tagline)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
We must use people

The P.P. theology in a nutshell.

12 posted on 04/18/2005 3:35:09 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Did you know that Episcopalians don't play chess?

Apparently they can't tell the difference between a bishop and a queen.

13 posted on 04/18/2005 3:35:35 PM PDT by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
that this can be true and that can be true

Oh, of course.

Maybe God just wasn't as "adult" as Vickie Gene, which is why there are all those silly things about "truth" scattered throughout the Bible and 2000 years of theology. But now we know better.

14 posted on 04/18/2005 3:36:03 PM PDT by livius
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Another thing to put in the abomination of desolation category...


15 posted on 04/18/2005 3:36:25 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This is what happens when plain old common sense is not practiced.

In their attempt to be charitable and practice diversity - they have been deceived by their own stupidity. Certainly the discernment from the Holy Spirit was not present when this "gay" person was allowed into their midst.


16 posted on 04/18/2005 3:39:26 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: gorush

He is no Anglican Bishop. He and his apostates are slowly,but surely, being isolated by the rest of the church.

In a weird way, it's a blessing, in that we are getting the opportunity to shave off the chaff that has gathered up over the past 1,000 years.


17 posted on 04/18/2005 3:40:31 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Clint N. Suhks
The Episcopal Church is dying... like other liberal denominations as a result of contravening divine teachings. You cannot have a man imperfect of physical as well as moral character lead a Church and expect to be taken seriously in matters of faith. And that is exactly what has happened to Episcopals when they elevated a sodomite and adulterer to the top of their hierarchy. God has judged them and they have been found wanting in His eyes.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
18 posted on 04/18/2005 3:40:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

We don't like that whole adultery rule, either, so to heck with it.

Stealing isn't really stealing, either, if you need the thing you steal.

Let's just call the whole thing off.


19 posted on 04/18/2005 3:42:54 PM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Yeah, lets kill babies as long as we are sodomizing and desecrating religion, not to mention utterly tearing the Anglican/Episcopalian Church to shreds with an obvious schism coming.

Let me give you some friendly advice, Gene. While the democrat party and your boss Satan are pleased, the Big Guy may be less than happy with your endless antics.

20 posted on 04/18/2005 3:43:55 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

Robinson is advocating the complete reinterpretation of the Scriptures. He is quoted in the Times article as saying "We have allowed the Bible to be taken hostage, and it is being wielded by folks who would use it to hit us over the head. We have to take back those Scriptures

Vicki Gene Robinson IS the Anti-Christ!

Catholic Ping
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21 posted on 04/18/2005 3:52:07 PM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

Robinson is advocating the complete reinterpretation of the Scriptures. He is quoted in the Times article as saying "We have allowed the Bible to be taken hostage, and it is being wielded by folks who would use it to hit us over the head. We have to take back those Scriptures

Vicki Gene Robinson IS the Anti-Christ!

Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


22 posted on 04/18/2005 3:52:56 PM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

He really doesn't help his own cause as gay, does he? There goes the idea that gay bishop is like everybody else except for the sexual orientation.


24 posted on 04/18/2005 3:57:47 PM PDT by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Things you hear at a Planned Parenthood Prayer Breakfast:

"Oh, God, kill the babies!"

"Oh, God, kill the babies!"

"Oh, God, kill the babies!"

"Oh, God, kill the babies!"

""Oh, God, we beseach Thee, please kill the babies! Amen."



25 posted on 04/18/2005 3:57:59 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

And trying to take as many down with him as he can.


29 posted on 04/18/2005 4:05:15 PM PDT by SoDak (hoist that rag!)
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To: All; LadyPilgrim; NYer; Salvation

WHAT IS THIS!!!!!No!No!!No!!!No!!!!this persons do not know Sodoma Gomora good G-D help this persons!!!Thank you


30 posted on 04/18/2005 4:05:53 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; All

Related news:

http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/scn-sa-episcopal1apr18,0,1525625.story?coll=stam-top-headlines


31 posted on 04/18/2005 4:07:17 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I we wonder why they used to burn heretics at the stake.


32 posted on 04/18/2005 4:07:47 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (When in doubt--punch.)
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To: Cicero

Herod is a saint in the Planned Parenthood church.


33 posted on 04/18/2005 4:08:26 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Clint N. Suhks
What an unimaginative God it would be if God only put one meaning in any verse of Scripture."

H'm. Interesting philosophy. I guess God must be a real stick in the mud for setting down absolutes when in comes to right and wrong, huh, Gene. So you have to make up silly stuff like this to make yourself feel better about the homosexual lifestyle.

34 posted on 04/18/2005 4:08:33 PM PDT by Luna (Evil will not triumph...God is at the helm)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

"We need to teach people about nuance...".

Hmmmm, NUANCE, where have I heard that word before?


35 posted on 04/18/2005 4:16:06 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: NYer
"We have to take back those Scriptures"

I think it was Bishop Spong who said "The church wrote the bible and the church can rewrite it."

Then again another Episcopal Bishop once said the Spong could not say the creed without perjuring himself.
36 posted on 04/18/2005 4:16:28 PM PDT by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This makes me downright mad. I've wandered far off the beaten path of being a good Christian and I doubt if I'm even a true Christian at all, but I stay strong to my roots and stick up for Christianity when crap like this happens. Yes, I still believe in Christ and the Bible, and yes it makes me mad how the left hijacks it and turns it into something it's not.


37 posted on 04/18/2005 4:19:51 PM PDT by Free and Armed
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To: Clint N. Suhks
We need to teach people about nuance, about holding things in tension, that this can be true and that can be true, and somewhere between is the right answer. It's a very adult way of living, you know. What an unimaginative God it would be if God only put one meaning in any verse of Scripture."

..Robinson had left his wife and two young daughters in 1986 and moved in with a man.

lol. What does he think he is, a drama critic reviewing a Broadway play? Maybe he should just forget the whole Reverand thing and try out for the lead in "Rent". What a joke.

38 posted on 04/18/2005 4:20:41 PM PDT by N. Beaujon
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To: Clint N. Suhks

It appears to me that the Episcopal Church chose the wrong gay man to admit to their priesthood.

I hope they revoke his ordination. He is not a Christian. He fancies himself a messenger of a revised edition of the Word of God, and has begun a Crusade to that effect.


39 posted on 04/18/2005 4:27:38 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Paul's Letter to the Romans, Chapter One:

24. Because of that God abandoned them to the defiling lusts of their heart, to enthrall their bodies in idolatry

25. And they exchanged God's truth for lies, and they worshipped nature more than its Creator,* and [for Whom belong] glory and blessings to [the end of] the universe, of all the universes, amen.

26. Because of that God abandoned them to venereal diseases. For their women exchanged their natural virtue for that which is unworthy of their nature.

27. And likewise their males abandoned the female's natural virtues and exhibited their depraved lusts one for the other, and males acted shamefully against males, and they received wages worthy of oblivion in their beings.

28. And as they did not judge themselves [worthy] of acknowledging God, God abandoned them to experience depravity, to do that which is not Lawful.

29. Whereas they are full of abominations, adultery, bitterness, evildoing, cheating, envy, murder, corruption, treachery and evil intentions,

41 posted on 04/18/2005 4:48:17 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I say, let the man keep talking. The more he talks, the more he discredits himself. If people keep letting him run off at the mouth, maybe the American Episcopal Church will come to its senses and ask him to resign.


42 posted on 04/18/2005 5:00:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I tell this to lesbian folk all the time: The story of freedom in Exodus is our story

Is this a play on the lesbian joke about them being God's Chosen, because they don't get AIDS?

43 posted on 04/18/2005 5:05:13 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I fear "gay" Gene is going to hell for more than one reason.

Not the least of which is that he wants to.

44 posted on 04/18/2005 5:22:11 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

"I fear 'gay' Gene is going to hell for more than one reason."



More from the Annals of "The Only Good Gene Is a Gay Gene", or The Human Gay Gnome Project.

So far, after four decades of searching for a gay gene, the only thing science has come up with is this guy.


45 posted on 04/18/2005 5:23:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We're not starving her to death -- we're just removing nutrition and hydration." -- Michael Schiavo)
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To: Wild Bill 10

You seem to have a bigoted view of gay people.

Not all gay people are homosexual activists and sex addicts. I have a gay uncle who used to live the lifestyle that we associate with gays. He became a born again Christian, and is now opposed to the hedonistic lifestyle led by many gay people.

The point is, is that homosexuality is a sin because it is rooted in hedonism, which is a willful ignorance of God, morality, and self-control.

It is my stance that gay men should have equal access to ordination, under the condition that they believe the tenets of the Church that they are joining, and that they live a life consistent with the teachings of the Church. In other words, gay priests must give up their sexuality, just as straight men give up their sexuality as a sacrifice to the pursuit of a relationship with God.

My uncle can probably make you look like a raving liberal, he's that dedicated to Christ.

Your implication that someone's sexuality dictates their morality is wrong, and you better learn it. I'll be the first to admit that it seems that gay people are immoral by nature, but as you get to know more and more of them, you'll realize that the gay lifestyle as portrayed by Hollywood and the MSM, as supported by the liberal elitists in this country, is nothing more than an expansion of the "free love" mentality of the hippie days. It is not separate, it is not unique, and it is not limited to or inherent to homosexuals.

This particular gay man is the wrong man for the job the Episcopal Church anointed him for. But it isn't because he is gay. It is because he is a raving lunatic and a liberal with an agenda that does not include the exaltation of God, but the destruction and reconstruction of the doctrine in the image of his liberal agenda.

Get it straight, or you fall into the trap of bigotry that assigns values to people for what they are, rather than for what they've done or for what they believe. Believe me, there are a lot of gay people who are as opposed to the liberalism that has infected their community, weakening the strength of their interpersonal bonds, and using their sexuality in a crusade to destroy the country that they love as much as the rest of us. If you alienate these people because you see their sexuality and lump them with the liberals, then you only weaken our argument that we are the sane, the reasonable, and the Right. You, in fact, reinforce the perception of that we are all a bunch of homophobic skinheads, and we aren't. Most of us are reasonable and reserve judgment of people based on the things which we are qualified to judge on, and the morality of someone's sexuality is not one of those things we mere mortals are qualified to pass judgment on. The negative societal effects of promiscuity and hedonism fall within the realm of what we can know, but the morality of someone's sexuality is something only God can judge, and even if we know His position on the matter, to act as anything but compassionate and loving Christians toward any homosexuals who try as hard as we do to ensure that family values, understanding, and that a culture of life is promoted, would be an injustice unworthy of a good Christian.


46 posted on 04/18/2005 5:48:05 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Clint N. Suhks

The phrase, " better a millstone " comes to mind.


47 posted on 04/18/2005 5:55:13 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Unam Sanctam

"In Moloch's Name we ask it, Amen."


48 posted on 04/18/2005 6:09:19 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: anonymoussierra

Dearest 'Sierra. You are so wonderful. I'm sorry you had to see this. Many of us who were members of this church refuse to worship there. Good people will win.


49 posted on 04/18/2005 6:12:17 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: ArmyTeach

"Good people will win."THANK YOU!!!!BE STRONG!!!GOOD FRIEND!!!!


50 posted on 04/18/2005 6:19:00 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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