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Bush's Border Blunder - A Friendly ‘Heads Up’ to the Chief Executive
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | APRIL 19, 2005 | JAMES ATTICUS BOWDEN

Posted on 04/18/2005 9:39:25 PM PDT by CHARLITE

President Bush’s big border blunder was calling a couple of hundred middle-aged citizens ‘vigilantes.’ The name-calling will blow up and destroy his presidency and Party if ever the Islamists attack again on his watch. The American People are forgiving and trusting, but ruthless and vindictive when ambushed or betrayed. If it’s found that attacking Islamists came through what used to be our southern border, what happened to President Nixon and the Republicans will look tame.

President Bush doesn’t see the irony in telling Israel to control their population within borders – point blank – while being unwilling to demand the same of Mexico. Why are some borders worth keeping and our own a sham? This open joke may become an open sore after another mass murder of Americans.

If a few civilians in lawn chairs with binoculars cause such an uproar, what would happen if one hundred-thousand armed Americans stood border watch? ‘Minuteman’ mania? Methinks they protesteth too much.

If a sixty-thousand soldier Mexican Army crossed our border, it’s a military invasion and act of war. Aren’t more than six million unarmed Mexicans illegally entering our country an immigrant invasion? Yet, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion” (U.S. Constitution. Article IV. Section 4). More than twelve million illegal immigrants from all over the world have already invaded and more than a million will follow this year. But, the Liberals and weak-it-doesn’t-matter-why-on-this-issue leaders can’t even call people by their proper names – illegal, let alone invaders.

It’s like they’re channeling Robert Frost mocking, “Good fences make good neighbors.” Even the poet asked, “Before I built a wall I’d ask to know what I was walling in or walling out. And to whom I was like to give offence?” Excellent question.

America should wall out the few hundred, or thousand, Islamists who will slip in with the illegals and murder Americans for another, worse 9-11 attack.

The U.S. Government should keep out the millions of illegal workers who supposedly do jobs Americans won’t do. The excess labor keeps down the minimum wage the market maintains. Employers will pay working class Americans more or automate - which creates better paying high tech jobs. The national market will adjust, even if that drives up the cost of produce, infamous grapes and lettuce, or whatever. Only allow guest workers when you can actually regulate them.

The cities, counties, states, and federal governments will save billions of dollars paid for social services, education, medical and other benefits. Far more than what illegals pay in taxes, when they do.

The families of America will be protected from the criminal behavior of thousands of illegals.

There will be less internal security threat the day an economic shock or serious depression dumps millions of illegals out on the streets unemployed and desperate.

The U.S can either keep the goose that lays golden eggs, our capitalist economy, for a Munificent Destiny dedicated to foreign investment, or surrender to foreign invasion that ultimately will overload and destroy our economy. Either, the illegals build their own countries with our capital or kill our country because of the cowardice of our leaders.

Nations without borders die. It takes a generation for immigrants to fully master English as their first tongue, discard their un-American cultural baggage, and participate in American Civilization as Americans, not as aliens. A million or so legal immigrants every year can assimilate. Tens of millions of invaders make a minority into a competing culture.

The politicians need to fine, permanently deny citizenship, and put on probation the illegals or ship them out. Anything less allows the every illegal family to birth babies as American anchors to keep them in the country forever without consequences for flouting the laws. Either we’re a nation of laws or scofflaws.

The humanitarian excuses to pity the families who broke the law to come here but obeyed the rules since then are heart-wrenching. But, it’s time for either national tough love discipline or national disaster and dissolution. The immigrant invasion will only increase. Today’s excuses are tomorrow’s culpability.

Let a million or two immigrants come in legally to open arms. Give a huge preference to neighboring Mexico. Throw out the weak politicians, write stronger laws for state and federal governments, impeach meddlesome judges, or take action as needed.

If four million mourners rushed to Rome, how many patriots could surge to any spot where the U.S. Government fails its Constitutional duty?

About the Writer: James Atticus Bowden has specialized in inter-disciplinary long range "futures" studies for over a decade. Employed by a Defense Department contractor, he is a retired United States Army Infantry Officer, and a 1972 graduate of the United States Military Academy. He earned graduate degrees from Harvard University and Columbia University, and holds three elected Republican Party offices in Virginia.

Contact at jatticus@aol.com.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; border; borderpatrol; bush; georgewbush; illegal; immigration; mexican; minutemen; president; vigilantes
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1 posted on 04/18/2005 9:39:27 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Well, with respect, "Vigilantes" is precisely correct. Committees of Vigilance. What else would you call it?

Furthermore, these Committees of Vigilance have always formed when a government has failed in the function of enforcing specific laws. I'm hardly a "close the borders" enthusiast, but that does appear to be the case here, and it is that, and not any loose application of terminology, that ought to concern the Bush administration.

2 posted on 04/18/2005 9:45:35 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CHARLITE

Gee Dubya, and a bunch of Freepers for that matter, are DEAD WRONG on this issue.

I am afraid it will take another terrorist attack, one clearly through our southern border, to make them see the light.


3 posted on 04/18/2005 9:49:30 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: CHARLITE
The politicians need to fine, permanently deny citizenship, and put on probation the illegals or ship them out.

Great article except for the highlighted portion (I haven't figured out how to draw a line through items yet)which needs to be removed. IMHO

4 posted on 04/18/2005 9:55:23 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: Justanobody
Great article except for the highlighted portion

Uh, what highlighted portion?

6 posted on 04/18/2005 9:58:45 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Justanobody

Never mind, I was a little slow...


7 posted on 04/18/2005 10:00:30 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: CHARLITE

I agree about a x-border terrorist attack. I am very urinated at the president now on illegal immigration, but it will be as to nothing compared to how I would feel if a terrorist incident occurs due to his border security neglect.


9 posted on 04/18/2005 10:03:43 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: clee1
George W. Bush missed his calling. Any guy who looks like this could be a one man vigilante!

I love this president, but I desperately wish that he would get as tough on all of these illegals, as he was on the Taliban and Saddam's rotten regime!


10 posted on 04/18/2005 10:04:35 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: CHARLITE
BTTT

GREAT article! Every sentence a truism!

11 posted on 04/18/2005 10:05:18 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: CHARLITE

OK, I just don't understand. I was expecting President Bush to support measures to protect us from terrorists. It seems like a no-brainer that we would want to prevent illegal aliens from entering the United States from Mexico. I'm not afraid of Mexicans seeking U.S. citizenship--I'm afraid of terrorists who will pretend to be Mexicans seeking U.S. citizenship. How can we distinguish one from the other if we don't have control of our borders?

I just don't understand President Bush's apparent nonchalance in this situation. He is from Texas. Isn't there a strong awareness of the problem and concern about it in Texas? Why does he appear to be so distanced from this issue?


12 posted on 04/18/2005 10:09:32 PM PDT by edweena
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To: CHARLITE
calling a couple of hundred middle-aged citizens ‘vigilantes.’

That's just because they are a handful of people. If there were more, many more, they would be the reason for some urgent action on the part of Gov't to crack down on this kind of immigration.

13 posted on 04/18/2005 10:10:19 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: CHARLITE
GWB's legacy... some 1,400 of my American brothers killed in Iraq, "protecting" the US, while 14,000 illegals run daily across the US border. Not one dollar of mine will reach the Republicans again.
14 posted on 04/18/2005 10:11:23 PM PDT by daguberment (The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish....)
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To: clee1

I am afraid it will take another terrorist attack, one clearly through our southern border, to make them see the light.

I have been saying this for a long time now. According to the DC administration, it's not a matter of "if", but a matter of "when" we have another attack. Seems to me that if they believe this statement, our borders would have been secured immediately.
When our economy experiences a backslide, unemployment begins to rise, the additional 12,000,000 people that are already draining our social programs will not only be unemployed, but will continue to cost EVERY taxpayer in this country dearly. Add a terrorist attack to this major drain and I'm afraid we will experience something like we haven't experienced in 76 years(for those mathe challenged folks, that would be the great depression of 1929).


15 posted on 04/18/2005 10:14:32 PM PDT by conshack
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To: CHARLITE

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16 posted on 04/18/2005 10:25:17 PM PDT by Quixotical
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To: Stingy Dog

Thank you for the help.


17 posted on 04/18/2005 10:26:02 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: edweena; RightWhale
Here are some of the "vigilantes."





....and here are the wing nuts they are trying to save us from!



18 posted on 04/18/2005 10:31:28 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: CHARLITE

Visual communication. Nice job! I mean that. Very professional.


19 posted on 04/18/2005 10:35:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis; All
Just found this one on another thread. "The Illegal Border Crime Wave" by Heather MacDonald.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_1_the_illegal_alien.html

20 posted on 04/18/2005 10:36:47 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: CHARLITE

Bush, Frist, etc are a bunch of limp wieners on immigration.

It is time to quite playing games with my daughter's future. I am not raising her to speak mexican, damnit.


21 posted on 04/18/2005 10:42:18 PM PDT by llevrok (I'm a Conservative American. NOT a republican sell out.)
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To: RightWhale
That's just because they are a handful of people. If there were more, many more...

They had 1000-1500 signed up. This was for the entire month of April. It is a good bet that many did not show up or sign up due to the negative publicity that began before April 1. With President Bush referring to them as vigilantes prior to the start of the project, what should we expect?

22 posted on 04/18/2005 10:46:58 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: CHARLITE

bttt


23 posted on 04/18/2005 10:47:01 PM PDT by lainde
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To: RightWhale
Old Chinese proverb............picture worth 1,000 words...

Char :)

24 posted on 04/18/2005 10:50:11 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: CHARLITE
I love this president, but I desperately wish that he would get as tough on all of these illegals, as he was on the Taliban and Saddam's rotten regime!

I feel the same way...on both counts. Also, thanks for the GREAT picture!

25 posted on 04/18/2005 10:50:23 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: Justanobody
With President Bush referring to them as vigilantes prior to the start of the project, what should we expect?

He is just one opinion although the chief administrator. We all have equal authority in matters of opinion. When enough members of our democracy speak up he will come around.

26 posted on 04/18/2005 10:55:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (50 trillion sovereign cells working together in relative harmony)
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To: clee1
and a bunch of Freepers for that matter

They are only maybe two dozen hardcore relaxed immigration advocates but they do enjoy one advantage.

27 posted on 04/18/2005 10:55:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (They kicked my dog, he turned to me and he said...let's get back to Tennessee Jed!)
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To: wardaddy

Uh huh... You said it FRiend. I would, but I have been suspended once over this topic.


28 posted on 04/18/2005 10:59:08 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Justanobody
"I love this president, but I desperately wish that he would get as tough on all of these illegals, as he was on the Taliban and Saddam's rotten regime!

What is killing me is that I know in my heart that he is equipped with the necessary strength and resolve to get real with this immense danger to America....and so I'm floored at his inattention to such danger. Just can't understand his thinking on this one topic....which actually is part and parcel of the entire War on Terror, or it certainly should be.

As another poster just said, "Securing the borders (and ports, I might add) should have been the first thing that was done, right after 9/11." All border crossings should have been suspended immediately until "further notice." Period.

We had the manpower then, and we have it now....to fortify our borders, both north and south. The president should simply issue the order!

Roger Hedgecock was subbing for Rush this morning, and he made a point of saying that if the CIC gave the order to the air training base at Yuma, AZ, to secure that base, it would be done inside of one hour or less. Why not the entire length of both borders? If we have the amazing logistics to move men and materiel from bases all over the U.S. to the Persian Gulf...........150,000 in 2003 and 250,000 in Desert Storm, then we can militarize our borders.............and, excuse me, but to he$$ with Vicente Fox's objections.

29 posted on 04/18/2005 10:59:18 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: clee1; wardaddy
There may be a few jerks who might think that the photos of the Salvatrucha MS-13 terrorists were only examples of the very worse that comes across the border. Here's what all of them leave behind on ranches and Fed. Park land. Even the environmentalists hate this part of the illegal movement. . . . and mind you, this garbage is all over the border invasion lands - our lands! Our American land! http://www.minutemanproject.com/photos/photos_2005apr16_layup.html
30 posted on 04/18/2005 11:08:57 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: CHARLITE

You don't have to convince me, FRiend.

If I were CIC, there would be plentiful food for buzzards on the border... know whut I mean?


31 posted on 04/18/2005 11:11:48 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: clee1
I am afraid it will take another terrorist attack,

Na! How many terrorist attacks have we already had? How many were supposedly thwarted by our expensive intelligence? How many non-Mexicans have been reported coming across the border? The government doesn't care about this issue. If Big Brother was ever going to care, there's plenty of reasons already. One more attack will be just another attack. Perhaps I am more pessimistic than you are. :-(

32 posted on 04/18/2005 11:45:45 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: PistolPaknMama
Maybe so.... I tell you this: Big Brother will care when the next attack comes, if proven via Mexico, when hundreds of thousands of armed and angry citizens converge on the border.
33 posted on 04/18/2005 11:48:34 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: edweena

"He is from Texas."

Please!!!! He may have lived in Texas but he's still a New Englander at heart.


34 posted on 04/18/2005 11:54:47 PM PDT by politicalwit (USA...A Nation of Selective Law Enforcement.)
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To: CHARLITE

Hello???...president Bush???...where are you???


35 posted on 04/19/2005 1:04:30 AM PDT by Route101
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To: CHARLITE

=== If a few civilians in lawn chairs with binoculars cause such an uproar, what would happen if one hundred-thousand armed Americans stood border watch? ‘Minuteman’ mania? Methinks they protesteth too much.



Uh, sorry ... those aren't the sort of Volunteers we're looking for where the Army of One (World) is concerned.


I'm surprised he didn't call them insurgents. That's what they are, after all.


36 posted on 04/19/2005 1:21:07 AM PDT by Askel5 († Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us †)
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To: CHARLITE; All
 
 Thunder on the Border-- (Minuteman Project)

37 posted on 04/19/2005 1:52:14 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: CHARLITE
This is a very comprehensive article. The author covers all the bases on this issue. However, lots of Americans (and I have said this before) find this an emotionally charged issue. Many of us are third or fourth generation American as it is. Our families came here and were made to prove that they were not criminals, were not infirm, and had a home and job were waiting for them. Otherwise, they were sent back. Descendants of these immigrants feel badly demanding a curtailment of immigration to this country. However, if the government would just enforce the same rigorous and fair standards for all immigrants as they did for our grandparents, maybe the looming civil strife in the US over this will be averted. I do see continued and vicious civil discord over immigration which will rival or perhaps surpass the kind of events and animosity which Americans endured during the Civil Rights confrontations in the 1960's and which unscrupulous politicians in this country continue to cultivate and to perpetuate by any means in order to garner votes among minorities and.p>
38 posted on 04/19/2005 6:19:01 AM PDT by SMARTY
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To: CHARLITE
It wouldn't hurt to add photos of unsanitary sanitary products for impact...

Two of the 17 or so pics in this photo montage give that impact.

39 posted on 04/19/2005 4:17:44 PM PDT by HiJinx (My Momma tol' me that if you gotta sneak, you're wrong...and you know it.)
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To: CHARLITE; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...

Indexed and Bumped and Pinged and...


40 posted on 04/19/2005 4:19:29 PM PDT by HiJinx (My Momma tol' me that if you gotta sneak, you're wrong...and you know it.)
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To: CHARLITE
Their cause, their concern, their caring for America and it's sovereignty are gaining steam. I hope the President has a change of mind, quick. Sounds like our northern border will be next to be guarded by volunteers.

I heard a woman call into Hannity suggesting that the President sign an Executive Order establishing the Civil Border Patrol, similar to the formation of the Civil Air Patrol in the 40's. It's a thought.

41 posted on 04/19/2005 4:27:17 PM PDT by b4its2late (If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet it makes beer shoot out your nose.)
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To: CHARLITE

We here on the border in Cochise County, AZ invite President Bush come down and instead of clearing logs of his Crawford, TX ranch, he can help us clear the tons of illegal alien garbage out of our desert and mountain areas. We want him to expend the same effort he's pictured expending above to haul bags of illegal alien garbage down from the hiking trails and environmentally sensitive areas. We've even got a few "Cochise County UDA" bags with his name written on it, reserved for him just for this purpose. So, how about it President Bush, are you coming down or what?

42 posted on 04/19/2005 4:27:40 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Route101
Hello???...president Bush???...where are you???

He's waiting to drive the bus:


43 posted on 04/19/2005 4:30:17 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: wardaddy
"They are only maybe two dozen hardcore relaxed immigration advocates..."

Great Scot! You mean to tell me we've gone from the CAL-9 to the FOQNA-24. I didn't realize they could reproduce that quickly...

44 posted on 04/19/2005 4:36:43 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: edweena
I fear Potus is playing politics on this one. But, it's a dangerous game . If we get another 911 or even anything close because someone came in from Mexico whom does he think will still support him. It sure as hell won't be the rats who want open borders.

The ironic thing is that many Mexicans who came here legally don't want and illegals entrants and by having open borders and then severely restricting the rest of the world from coming here, we become one hugely bigoted nation.

How can we justify favoring one country over another when it comes to legal immigration? The whole issue becomes insanely managed.
45 posted on 04/19/2005 5:04:53 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: CHARLITE

Excellent stuff charlite.


46 posted on 04/19/2005 5:06:02 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: HiJinx

I hope your photo montage convinces people of what you are dealing with. I was in Mexico for a month last year. It is no consolation I know, but the whole country looks like these pictures - garbage everywhere.

Have you sent your montage to the WH & every member of congress? Might be worth the effort...? I am very sorry for your loses and hope this matter gets the national attenion it so richly deserves.


47 posted on 04/19/2005 5:17:33 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: b4its2late
" heard a woman call into Hannity suggesting that the President sign an Executive Order establishing the Civil Border Patrol, similar to the formation of the Civil Air Patrol in the 40's. It's a thought."

But, then they'd be burdened with 'govt. oversight'.

48 posted on 04/19/2005 5:33:54 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: SMARTY
Descendants of these immigrants feel badly demanding a curtailment of immigration to this country.

Well, I'm one of those descendants and I don't feel at all bad about not wanting illegal immigration to continue. My mother came over here legally from Italy, had to learn English to take her citizenship test, and insisted that we speak English at home. I think that's a novel concept today!
49 posted on 04/19/2005 5:50:00 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Bush talks about jobs Americans won't do - one we will do is (undocumented) U.S. Border Patrol Agent)
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To: politicalwit
OK

I'm repeating myself, but President Bush got elected in Texas, it matters not where he 'came from', he's a Texas politician.

NO body gets elected in Texas by working in any manner against the mexican 'interests' that have built up there over the past several decades.

What is most irritating to me is that the old Mexican families in Texas, Arizona, etc. are as American as I am (or more). But lax attitudes along the border have allowed others, including university elite liberal racists, to seep in and tilt the scale.

Bush is doing just what we should expect of him - the real issue is what will it take to knock him off of that position. Sadly, it just MIGHT take another hit in the heartland (that cannot be denied) to do it.

Today's quandary: Who ya gonna vote for...Hitlery or some hair ball libertarian?

50 posted on 04/19/2005 6:02:03 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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