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Senator Bob Graham was informed of 911 threat before attack (VIDEO)
www.cooperativeresearch.org ^ | Paul Thompson

Posted on 04/18/2005 11:12:43 PM PDT by Jimbaugh

Randy Glass Video

By Paul Thompson

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A fascinating video relating to an important unheeded warning of the 9/11 attacks was shown on WPTV, an NBC TV station in Florida on October 7, 2002. This video has been overlooked and forgotten until now.

What did Senator Bob Graham (left) and US intelligence know about the warning from Randy Glass (right) before 9/11? In this video, Randy Glass, a private US citizen working as an undercover agent in a government sting operation, discusses how he learned about a threat to the World Trade Center and tried to warn various officials in government before 9/11. Florida State Senator Ron Klein and US Senator Bob Graham admit being given a warning by Randy Glass in the months before 9/11. What was the warning, who else knew about it, and why wasn't it acted upon?

Though the video doesn't discuss it, the sting operation Glass was part of recorded agents working for Pakistan's secret service, the ISI, say on more than one occasion before 9/11 that the World Trade Center was “coming down.”

For more information about Glass, ready the Randy Glass timeline


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 911; bobgraham; glass; graham; randyglass; terrorist
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Listen to this Michael Moore...
1 posted on 04/18/2005 11:12:44 PM PDT by Jimbaugh
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To: Jimbaugh

I'm breaking out the "Reynold's Extra Strength"!


2 posted on 04/18/2005 11:14:29 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Jimbaugh

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/essay.jsp?article=glass-graham_video_wmv

Here is the link to the video.


3 posted on 04/18/2005 11:14:42 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Listen to tape and then try to sleep tonight.


4 posted on 04/18/2005 11:15:44 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamzee; mrs tiggywinkle; EllaMinnow; ...

Check this one out


5 posted on 04/18/2005 11:22:10 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Jimbaugh

Any more threats on it?


6 posted on 04/18/2005 11:22:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Jimbaugh

Hey buddy .. how the heck are ya!!

As usual, the dems have a lot to answer for.


7 posted on 04/18/2005 11:24:41 PM PDT by The Final Harvest (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Mo1

What did he know and when did he know it?


8 posted on 04/18/2005 11:30:12 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I have no idea .. but it should be interesting to find out


9 posted on 04/18/2005 11:32:18 PM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Mo1

I'd love to see this guy sweat it under a 100w light bulb.


10 posted on 04/18/2005 11:34:08 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: CyberAnt
As usual, the dems have a lot to answer for.

And, as usual, they will be given a pass on this.

I wonder what Cynthia McKinney knew before Sept. 11. I thought her accusation of this administration was "protesting too much." Maybe it was just psychological projection...

11 posted on 04/18/2005 11:40:04 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Jimbaugh

The video is slow loading currently, but I'm finally almost though it.

Glass talks about how the WTC was brought up to him by his Islamofacist buddies as a target to be brought down (well duh, it was targeted before), but he makes no claim of being told specific methods or dates.


12 posted on 04/18/2005 11:40:37 PM PDT by Nexus
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To: Nexus

"almost THROUGH it", that is...


13 posted on 04/18/2005 11:42:16 PM PDT by Nexus
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To: Jimbaugh

I will say that even if Glass was told just general things by his contacts, perhaps his contacts knew more. Senator Graham definitely dropped the ball.


14 posted on 04/18/2005 11:47:41 PM PDT by Nexus
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To: Jimbaugh
Not worthy of mention. Matters not if he told 100 senators prior to 9/11. First of all, I doubt very much if the plot was to 'bring down' the buildings. How could the terrorists possibly know in advance they would come down?

More importantly, without having knowledge of three vital elements concerning the attack, it would be impossible to prevent it. And once again, I doubt very much that the informant knew even one of elements. All the chatter before 9/11 was just that. Chatter.

I submit:

One, who knew the date and time before the fact?

Two, who knew the method?

Three, who knew the target(s)?

Without all three pieces of information, the government could not have prevented the attack. Think about it.

15 posted on 04/18/2005 11:47:56 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: Eastbound

I just wonder how this was not included in Michael Moore's classic video?

They new somethings was going to happen they are just to stupid to have figured it out before it happened.


16 posted on 04/18/2005 11:54:59 PM PDT by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: Mo1

I'm BUSY fending off all the Pope conspiracies.
Damn shame too, some of my best posts are ZOT
when the thread got pulled. ROTFLMSAAO!


17 posted on 04/18/2005 11:55:04 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

It was a tasty thread.

Often these days, those losing an argument push some buttons and down the memory hole it goes.


18 posted on 04/18/2005 11:58:33 PM PDT by Petronski (John Paul the Great, pray for the Conclave. Holy Spirit, make Your will known.)
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To: onyx
I'm BUSY fending off all the Pope conspiracies

Should I ask? *L*

19 posted on 04/19/2005 12:01:18 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Petronski
Yep, that thread said "pulled at the request of the poster" -- lol.
She called us 12 year old's! Isn't that prepubescent?
All of our brilliance is ZOT.
20 posted on 04/19/2005 12:03:28 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Mo1; Petronski

Uh, no... don't ask.
I'll be happy to spill!

Dontcha know the Pope really died on April 1,
and it's all a conspiracy because they needed
time to "remove the pain from his face" and to
forge the last minute appointments, so dear Mo,
you see the first Italian news release was correct
(which Fox parroted) and our beloved Pope actually
succombed April 1st. The only thing missing from
the hysterical opinion was "april Fool's" or, as Petronski
said "the grassy knoll."


Petronski was on the same thread.
He'll back me on this. :)


21 posted on 04/19/2005 12:08:37 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Mo1
The truth is.......... Osama-bin-Laden declared war on us back in the mid 90's. The Clinton Administration ignored all of these warnings because the public opinion Polls Dick Morris conducted did not show any popular support for confronting any particular threat only Clinton and his National Security team was aware of.

When evidence showed that Timothy McVeigh might have been involved with an Iraqi named Al-Hussein Hussani (sp?) who might have connections with Al-Queda. This was swept under the rug because there was political points to be scored if McViegh could be linked to Rush Limbaugh or any other conservative talk show host.

The simple truth is... William Jefferson Clinton ignored the threat on the horizon because it was politically advantageous for him to do so. Meanwhile 3000 people died on 9/11 because Bill Clinton decided it was in his best political interest to ignore the threats we faced than confront them.

The fact of the matter is.... Bill Clinton was quite aware of what Osama-bin-Laden was planning and the threat he represented, but confronting bin_Laden did not Poll well, so he ignored the threat of OBL because there was no DATA that convinced him it would benefit him Politically.

22 posted on 04/19/2005 12:10:55 AM PDT by MJY1288 (The Democrats are the party for the death of the innocent and life for the wicked)
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To: Petronski; onyx

Everyone seems to want a conspiracy... First the pope, now this. As has already been pointed out, the World Trade Center was a known target - that was why there was a security presence there. Aside from putting ground to air missiles up there and someone actually having the guts to light one off into a plane full of bystanders (and risk a miss hitting somewhere in the region), there wasn't much to do.

The only way to prevent it would have been to keep those hijackers from boarding the plane. That wasn't done, what followed was unpreventable. What did we learn? To make sure we strip search granny just about as often as any Arab, to leave our borders open for virtually anyone to cross (and later crash a car into an officer), and to continue ignoring the huge population of those who entered legally but failed to honor their visas and leave under the conditions they agreed to.

Aside from the armed student body, what prevents someone from coming to the US, buying weapons (or making them) and killing our school children? So far as I see it, we're still relying on blind luck.

All that being said, it would be nice to see Graham sweat a bit over this; perhaps we'd have someone else in the Senate to speak up for sane protections for our people.


23 posted on 04/19/2005 12:14:38 AM PDT by kingu (It is a war; a war with no peace talks and the enemy thinks they are doing God's work in killing us.)
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To: onyx

You're right
I shouldn't have asked *L*


24 posted on 04/19/2005 12:16:00 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: kingu


Exactly right.
I want to enjoy watching old "Dear Diary Bob" dodge a few verbal bullets.


25 posted on 04/19/2005 12:17:39 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Mo1; Petronski; BigSkyFreeper

What time (Rome time) is the first vote anticipated today?
It's already past 9:00AM.
In my condition, I can't stay up all night...lol.


26 posted on 04/19/2005 12:19:31 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: kingu
Everyone seems to want a conspiracy... First the pope, now this. As has already been pointed out, the World Trade Center was a known target - that was why there was a security presence there.

True

What is of interest is Graham's acknowledgment and then denial of the story

I guess he didn't have his handy dandy note pad with him to check his notes

27 posted on 04/19/2005 12:19:34 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Eastbound
First of all, I doubt very much if the plot was to 'bring down' the buildings. How could the terrorists possibly know in advance they would come down?

I thought it was common knowledge that they wanted to bring them down. They tried once before on Feb 23, 1993 using a truck bomb which only partially succeeded. They were expected to try again, though we thought they would try a bigger truck bomb -- no one conceived of an airplane as a weapon. This is nothing new. And for the reasons you gave the info he had was of no use to preventing 9/11 anyway.

28 posted on 04/19/2005 12:20:02 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Triggerhippie

"I wonder what Cynthia McKinney knew before Sept. 11. I thought her accusation of this administration was "protesting too much." Maybe it was just psychological projection..."

The dems always protest too much, making one think it is to cover up their absolute joy. They love to see America take 'hits' for numerous things, but they act like they are the good guys, pursuing the bad, when it comes to investigating things. All of a sudden they take the offence like they are real good citizens!


29 posted on 04/19/2005 12:20:24 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: onyx

Someone said earlier it could be anytime between 10am and Noon Rome time.


30 posted on 04/19/2005 12:21:01 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II)
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To: Jimbaugh
For more information about Glass, ready the Randy Glass timeline

Easier said than done.

31 posted on 04/19/2005 12:21:53 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: onyx

Not sure

But I've noticed that most news reporting from Rome happens around 11'ish or so


32 posted on 04/19/2005 12:24:21 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Mo1


I'll try to hang in another hour.


33 posted on 04/19/2005 12:25:25 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

Easier for you to say on the west coast

It's 3:30 am here and I need to call it a night

Sweet Dream Onyx


34 posted on 04/19/2005 12:26:42 AM PDT by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it" ~ Pope John Paul II)
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To: Mo1


You too Mo.
Nite to you.


35 posted on 04/19/2005 12:27:16 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
What did he know and when did he know it?

Gee, I don't know that, but. in Tom Clancy's book, copyrighted 1984, Debt of Honor, a protagonist at the end flies a 747 into the Capitol Bldg and kills the president and congress at a joint session. Is that early enough?

36 posted on 04/19/2005 12:51:26 AM PDT by rock58seg (It is necessary that politicians become aware there are consequences to stupid legislation.)
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To: rock58seg

copyrighted 1984 = copyrighted 1994


37 posted on 04/19/2005 12:52:16 AM PDT by rock58seg (It is necessary that politicians become aware there are consequences to stupid legislation.)
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To: Jimbaugh
Bob Grayed Ham spent so much of his "campaign", if you want to call it that, telling us Bush was blowing the war on terror.

Nice to know Bob is playing golf now, where he can do little harm.

38 posted on 04/19/2005 2:00:25 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: rock58seg
By some weird fate, I had been to the library on the night of September 10th, 2001, and I had checked out Executive Orders, the book that opens with Jack Ryan gazing on the Capitol in flames, just after the ending of Debt Of Honor.

I fell asleep reading it and woke up, thinking I was dreaming, hearing an MSNBC reporterette talking about "the building being in flames" and "a plane flying into the building."

When I finally realized I wasn't dreaming, but hearing something on TV, I got up, walked into the bonus room to look at TV and damn near lost my mind.

39 posted on 04/19/2005 2:03:02 AM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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To: Howlin

You never told me that!
WOW! Uncanny.


40 posted on 04/19/2005 2:04:03 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx

It was one of the freakiest things in my entire life. I don't know how long it took me to realize I wasn't dreaming -- that it was real.


41 posted on 04/19/2005 2:08:14 AM PDT by Howlin (North Carolina, where beer kegs are registered and illegal aliens run free.)
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tin foil bump


42 posted on 04/19/2005 2:09:36 AM PDT by XHogPilot (GW Bush is a strategic genius!)
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To: Mo1

Thanks for the ping. I recall a news report I heard in the 90's about threats to fly planes into buildings.

I remember it so well because of the visceral reaction I had to the mental image it created and the level of hatred I imagined in somebody who would do such a thing.

Unfortunately, we all got the opportunity to experience that first hand.


43 posted on 04/19/2005 4:03:46 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Blogs have a strangle hold on the MSM. The MSM is kicking out the windshield.)
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To: All

WPTV, Channel 5 Florida
October 7, 2002
[transcription of broadcast]



[Jim Sackett] Thank you. Tonight, questions about a possible connection to the worst day in American history. Did an admitted con man turned informant tip authorities, including a state senator and a U.S. senator, to a threat against the World Trade Center? Newschannel 5's Kathleen Walter is joining us with the results of a Newschannel 5 investigation tonight. Kathleen.

[Kathleen Walter] Well Jim, Randy Glass is a man with a criminal past but someone the government trusted enough with very sensitive and classified intelligence information. There is no dispute he was wired into international arms deals and may have heard about terrorist threats to the United States. What did a local and US senator from Florida do with the information he says he passed along?

It's the unthinkable. Terrorists using airplanes as deadly weapons to attack the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. But to Randy Glass, the idea that terrorists wanted to bring down the twin towers came as no surprise to him.

[Randy Glass] I felt incredibly uncomfortable. Because I knew that something was going to happen.

[Kathleen Walter] For more than two years, Glass was caught up in an international arms deal. An admitted con man living in Boca Raton, Florida, Glass put his skills to work for the government. An informant to the FBI and Florida's Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Glass and other agents posed as international arms dealers. Hawking arms purportedly diverted from US armories and luring in prospective weapons buyers who might have been linked to terrorism. His life as a secret agent was chronicled on tape.

[tape recording] Glass: "What would you do?"

Mohssen: "I'll kill him! I'll kill you!"

[Kathleen Walter] Through accused middleman Diaa Mohssen, Glass was introduced to weapons buyers who said they had connections to Islamic militant groups with possible links to Osama bin Laden.

[tape recording] Mohssen: "You know who supplies them with money?"

Glass: "Who?"

Mohssen: "Osama bin Laden."

Glass: "That's very nice. Thanks for mentioning that."

[Randy Glass] Americans were the enemy. And that the purpose of obtaining these weapons systems and nuclear materials was to use against Americans.

[Kathleen Walter] And Glass says threats against Americans didn't end there.

[Randy Glass] I did know there was a plan of attack on the United States. And the World Trade Center had been mentioned.

[Kathleen Walter] But in the summer of 2001, Glass's undercover work came to an end. Three months before September 11th, he reached out to Florida State Senator Ron Klein and told him about threats against national security. Klein says he doesn't recall any mention of World Trade Center threats.

[Ron Klein] This is before September 11th and all that. Um, again, it was enough information for me to say I don't know exactly what to do with this other than to contact one of my federal colleagues...

[Kathleen Walter] And so State Senator Ron Klein contacted the office of Florida Senator Bob Graham, the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee. According to Graham spokesperson Jill Greenberg, case worker Charlie Yonts spoke with Glass last summer, prior to September 11th, Glass claiming he had at least six conversations with the case worker. And while we've been unable to corroborate the nature of those conversations, Greenberg confirms some of that information was passed along to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

[Reporter interviewing Graham] A few months before September 11th, your office received information from A.T.F. informant Randy Glass who also worked on the terrorism task force. And, he also advised your office of terrorist intentions to bring down the World Trade Center. This was before September 11th. Your office tells me it forwarded information from Mr. Glass to the Intelligence Committee. And my question is, why did no one from the Committee follow up with Mr. Glass to pursue this?

[Bob Graham] Because we in turn gave that information to the appropriate intelligence agency. Uh, we are an oversight and legislative agency. The acutal operations of collection of information, interviewing possible sources, is the responsibility of the F.B.I. if it's a domestic matter or the C.I.A. if it's foreign.

[Kathleen Walter] And according to State Senator Klein, three weeks after he made the initial contact with Senator Graham's office, staffers there confirmed to him Glass's information had been passed on to the intelligence community.

[Reporter] So they confirmed to you that they sent it along.

[Ron Klein] Um hm. They said - they said to me that they had spoken, uh, they had processed it through their office, um, and um, spoken to Randy I believe is what they said and they had processed it.

[Bob Graham] I had a concern about that and a dozen other pieces of information, uh, which were emminating in the summer of 2001.

[Reporter] So you did forward Mr. Glass's information...

[Bob Graham] Yeah.

[Reporter] Along to ... to whom?

[Bob Graham] I, I cannot say what agency but the agency that we felt was the most appropriate for the nature of the information that he was providing.

[Kathleen Walter] Despite his keen insight into the world of terrorists, Randy Glass says that until recently no one from any intelligence agency had contacted him. And since our interview with Senator Graham in Boca Raton last month his office offered this clarification. That:

"Mister Glass didn't provide any information to our office prior to Sept. 11, 2001, that needed to be pursued by intelligence agencies. When I was interviewed in Boca Raton, I said I did know of this individual and that he had been in touch with the Intelligence Committee, but I didn't indicate when that contact had taken place. It was earlier this year, not prior to Sept. 11, 2001."

[Kathleen Walter] Even though Graham's press aide Jill Greenberg and State Senator Klein says Glass's information did go before the intelligence community prior to September 11th, 2001, the senator still maintains that's not the case, even though that's what he initially told us.

[Jim Sackett] Kathleen, a lot of information to digest, but do we know exactly what information did go to the senator?

[Kathleen Walter] Well, at the end of the day we just don't know. We called Graham staffer Charlie Yonts several times to find out more about his conversations with Mr. Glass, but he did not return our phone calls. We are still investigating, and hope to have answers in the coming weeks. Live on the night beat, Kathleen Walter, Newschannel 5.


44 posted on 04/19/2005 4:10:45 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Jimbaugh; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
PING...

Grrrrrrrrrrr and to think of how many times Graham was on the floor ranting about intelligence!

45 posted on 04/19/2005 4:12:07 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

So if you take this information and add it to the information the secruity guy in Boston gave to Kerry, we pretty much knew what was going to happen. We just didn't know when.


46 posted on 04/19/2005 4:27:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Wow!


47 posted on 04/19/2005 4:34:20 AM PDT by Bahbah (Something wicked this way comes)
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To: OXENinFLA

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: Yes, going back to your question about what was the greatest surprise. I agree with what Senator Shelby said the degree to which agencies were not communicating was certainly a surprise but also I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States.

I am stunned that we have not done a better job of pursuing that to determine if other terrorists received similar support and, even more important, if the infrastructure of a foreign government assisting terrorists still exists for the current generation of terrorists who are here planning the next plots.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/911-graham-admits.htm


48 posted on 04/19/2005 4:36:12 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: FreedomCalls; Eastbound

I thought it was also common knowledge that they learned all they needed to know from the trials of the 1993 WTC bombers. At those trials, engineers revealed in detail all the structural elements of the WTC design...information that would later be used to determine exactly where the planes should ram into the buildings.

I've always thought this to be one of the most ironic twists of the WTC bombings. The arcane nature of the engineers' testimony was so tedious that the MSM and the public became bored with the trials. Only the print media and the internet covered the story. The irony: we weren't listening, but OBL was.

No question--bringing them down was their only objective.


49 posted on 04/19/2005 4:40:36 AM PDT by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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To: Jimbaugh
If anybody has been working on building up the mental illness defense, it is Sen Bob Graham. It's true! Just look it up in his journals. :)

Actually, all kidding aside, if the conversation did take place, it probably is in his journal for that day.

50 posted on 04/19/2005 4:41:59 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (The murder of Terri Schindler Schiavo - NOT IN OUR NAME)
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