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Canadian cardinal creeps quietly onto lists of 'papabili'
Catholic News Service ^ | 4/18/2005 | Cindy Wooden

Posted on 04/19/2005 5:43:06 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- While pundits and cardinals themselves discounted any chance of a U.S. cardinal emerging as the 265th pontiff, a Canadian cardinal crept quietly onto the lists of "papabili."

Quebec Cardinal Marc Ouellet, a polyglot academic who briefly served as secretary of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, started showing up on Italian newspapers' top-12 list three days before the April 18 conclave.

The newspaper Il Messaggero first referred to the 60-year-old as "the wild card" in the cardinals' deck, but the day the conclave opened it highlighted the Canadian's language skills, theological background and "fervent" Marian devotion.

"He is close to the positions of (Cardinals Joseph) Ratzinger and (Camillo) Ruini and a disciple of (Father Hans Urs) von Balthasar. Someone has sworn that he could be the 'surprise' of the conclave," Il Messaggero wrote.

"Very young with a peaceful countenance, he is considered one of the 'papabili,'" the newspaper said in a separate story in the same opening-day edition.

And in a third story, more analytical, the paper's chief Vatican reporter, Orazio Petrosillo, said that if the cardinals could not agree on an Italian pope they "could be forced to make a sensational leap across the ocean to the Americas," choosing either Cardinal Ouellet or one of four Latin Americans.

Even though he is not Italian, Cardinal Ouellet is no stranger to Rome and, more importantly, he can speak the language.

After studying in Rome, he returned to the city to teach in 1996 and a year later was appointed chair of dogmatic theology at the John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and the Family.

In 2001, he was named a bishop and appointed secretary of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. He also served on the Commission for Religious Relations With the Jews.

The Italian dailies La Repubblica and Corriere della Sera mentioned Cardinal Ouellet as being "the only North American" in the running.

The Corriere del Ticino daily April 17 called Cardinal Ouellet "the strong last-minute candidate."


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: canadian; catholic; conclave; ouellet; papabile; pope
This is why a papal election cannot be handicapped like a horse race. As a disciple of Father von Balthasar and close in doctrine to Ratzinger and Ruini, this may be a pleasant surprise coming out of left field.
1 posted on 04/19/2005 5:43:06 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

If they're gonna get close, they might as well go all the way, and elevate Cardinal Ratzinger.


2 posted on 04/19/2005 5:45:12 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Habemus pappam, eh?


3 posted on 04/19/2005 5:45:54 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: hobbes1
"they might as well go all the way, and elevate Cardinal Ratzinger."

Can you believe the campaign of slur and innuendo aimed at Ratzinger?

The long knives are out.

4 posted on 04/19/2005 5:47:02 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I was thinking Ratzinger, but after reading some bios, I think it will be Claudio Hummes from Brazil. He's of European ancestry and represents a place where Catholicism is growing by leaps and bounds. Everyone's happy.

Well, except American a la carte Catholics who are looking for a liberalization or a nod to the secular world. NOT going to happen.


5 posted on 04/19/2005 5:48:49 AM PDT by AbeKrieger
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To: Rutles4Ever

Dear Rutles4Ever,

I doubt they'll elect a 60 year-old fellow.


sitetest


6 posted on 04/19/2005 5:49:43 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Supposedly the Cardinals of Buenos Aires, San Paulo, and
Tegulcigalpa are also strong candidates.

Wonder how they would rate on a deck-of-cards scale?


7 posted on 04/19/2005 5:50:41 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Rutles4Ever

The tipoff would be if maple syrup is served at breakfast.


8 posted on 04/19/2005 5:50:59 AM PDT by Semper Paratus (-)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Fits the bill nicely. We need a younger, conservative Pope to finish off the liberals.

Regards, Ivan


9 posted on 04/19/2005 5:51:12 AM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: billorites

Kinda reminds one of W....


Hopefully the election will go the same way.


10 posted on 04/19/2005 5:51:13 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: Semper Paratus

One thought occured to me - perhaps this will do some good in Canada: its government is rife with corruption and trying to do immoral things like legitimise gay marriage. Perhaps the new Holy Father (God willing), will pay a visit to Canada and have the same effect on the Canadians as JP II did on Poland...Liberal tyranny might be killed off by this.

How beautiful it would be if God struck back at the Liberals for their malfesance in such a way.

Regards, Ivan


11 posted on 04/19/2005 5:55:13 AM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Molly Pitcher

ping




12 posted on 04/19/2005 6:02:46 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Blogs have a strangle hold on the MSM. The MSM is kicking out the windshield.)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Read more about Hans Urs von Balthasar
13 posted on 04/19/2005 6:04:34 AM PDT by A. Pole (George Orwell: "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.")
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To: Rutles4Ever

A pope from secularist Canada would be as surprising as a pope from America.


14 posted on 04/19/2005 6:06:35 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Quebec Cardinal Marc Ouellet, a polyglot academic...

If this guy becomes pope then you can count on Quebec leaving the union in the not so near future. Get ready for pandemonium.

15 posted on 04/19/2005 6:08:13 AM PDT by Podkayne
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To: billorites
Can you believe the campaign of slur and innuendo aimed at Ratzinger?
The long knives are out.

Hey, he's a German. I'm not surprised at all. This IS America, after all, where Germans are generally treated this way.

Exceptions: Boris Becker, Steffi Graff and Michael Schumacher. They got a pass on our anti-Germanism. I guess because they wield no power.

16 posted on 04/19/2005 6:09:33 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: AbeKrieger
I was thinking Ratzinger, but after reading some bios, I think it will be Claudio Hummes from Brazil. He's of European ancestry and represents a place where Catholicism is growing by leaps and bounds. Everyone's happy.
Well, except American a la carte Catholics who are looking for a liberalization or a nod to the secular world. NOT going to happen.

All good points.

17 posted on 04/19/2005 6:10:39 AM PDT by starfish923 (Iohannas Paulus II, Requiescat in Pacem)
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To: AbeKrieger
"Well, except American a la carte Catholics who are looking for a liberalization or a nod to the secular world. NOT going to happen."

I am ashamed by many of my American Catholic brethren. Many are so egocentric and think they are the only Catholics in the world. First off, I think the Catholics in America are some of the laziest most undevout people on the planet!!

Second, they seem to think that the Pope creates doctrine out of thin air! In fact, he merely interprets the Bible, the WORD OF GOD!!! He has no say so in how doctrine is supposed to be. It is God's to make or break, and I doubt God will break any of it.

Stupid lazy people. Don't even know how their own Church works...it IS NOT a democracy so GET OVER IT, MORONS!
18 posted on 04/19/2005 6:10:47 AM PDT by metalmanx2j (Eric Cartman: Democrats piss me off.)
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To: Rutles4Ever; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Someone recently mentioned that prior to 2003, JPII commented that his successor had not yet been made a Cardinal. Cardinal Marc Ouellet was elevated in October 2003!

"In some ways he is a traditionalist, and has advocated a return to Eucharistic adoration and Gregorian chant, suggesting that Quebec’s 1960s “Quiet Revolution” marked too radical a change. Yet people who have worked with Ouellet describe him as friendly, humble, and flexible."
.... John Allen of the (liberal) National Catholic Reporter.

Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


19 posted on 04/19/2005 6:11:41 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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To: AbeKrieger

Actually the church has not done that well at all in Brazil in recent years, while Protestants, mostly Pentacostals and evangecals have grown dramatically in the last 20 years. Cardinal Hummes is considered to be a liberal.


20 posted on 04/19/2005 6:14:03 AM PDT by RFT1
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To: Rutles4Ever
this may be a pleasant surprise coming out of left field

I read an article about Cardinal Ouellet this morning and came away very impressed by him.

21 posted on 04/19/2005 6:14:23 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: sitetest

That's conventional wisdom. I agree, but my opinion is worthless to the Holy Spirit with regards to the conclave.


22 posted on 04/19/2005 6:15:21 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever
From the CardinalRating web site:

The Canadian Cardinal Marc Ouellet, 59, Archbishop of Quebec, is a Sulpician. He never imagined when he went home to Quebec last December to take up the reins of the archdiocese that he would be back in Rome so soon.

(The Tablet, 23 April 2005) A member of the Pontifical Academy of Theology and the Curia's Commission for the Church in Eastern Europe, he was appointed in 2001 secretary of the Christian unity council. Fluent in French, English, German, Spanish and Italian, he is known for strictly following Church teaching on controversial matters.

His reception in a decidedly non-traditional diocese has not been always smooth. He has urged young people to practise self-discipline, chastity, prayer and the sacraments, and is known to be worried by the suicide rate among young people in Quebec.

23 posted on 04/19/2005 6:16:57 AM PDT by NYer ("America needs much prayer, lest it lose its soul." John Paul II)
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To: A. Pole
And about Fr. Henri de Lubac
24 posted on 04/19/2005 6:23:45 AM PDT by A. Pole (George Orwell: "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.")
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To: Podkayne

Quebec's not going anywhere. Union with the rest of Canada is their free lunch lifeline.


25 posted on 04/19/2005 6:33:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: NYer

Ouellet would be good.


26 posted on 04/19/2005 6:51:39 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Rutles4Ever

Dear Rutles4Ever,

"That's conventional wisdom. I agree, but my opinion is worthless to the Holy Spirit with regards to the conclave."

LOL. Mine, too.

However, the one opinion that I'm willing to offer tentatively is that the Conclave will not elect a 60 year-old man pope.


sitetest


27 posted on 04/19/2005 7:21:36 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: RFT1
I agree with you if the huge influx of Brazilians in my area are an indication of the state of the faith in Brazil.

From the ones that I know, Brazil is a place where the husbands still have mistresses on the side and sometimes, second families. Of course, not all Brazilians are like this but it is common. Life is tough for women in Brazil. The women though, are hard workers.

28 posted on 04/19/2005 8:38:17 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: sandyeggo

So am I prescient or what? ;-)


29 posted on 04/19/2005 8:38:59 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: AbeKrieger

Hummes is relatively liberal, and will not get the nod.


30 posted on 04/19/2005 8:40:47 AM PDT by CWW (Mark Sanford for President on 2008!)
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To: AbeKrieger

One problem: Hummes is a communist.


32 posted on 04/19/2005 8:43:25 AM PDT by dangus
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To: sandyeggo; sitetest
I too think he is too young as sitetest mentioned.

Oops, my pal Raymond Arroyo (I just want to pinch his cheek!) just said that there is more black smoke.

I think that does it for Ratzinger.

Looks like the progressives are holding fast.

33 posted on 04/19/2005 8:51:49 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen

White smoke??? Bells????


34 posted on 04/19/2005 8:53:58 AM PDT by american colleen
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