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Why the Holy Father chose the name "Benedict"...?
QueenOfPeace.Ca ^ | April 12, 2005 | Zenit.org

Posted on 04/19/2005 11:56:55 AM PDT by MadIvan

Cardinal Ratzinger on the Banishment of God From Public Life

Receives St. Benedict Award for Promotion of Life and Family

SUBIACO, Italy, APRIL 12, 2005 (Zenit.org).- Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger says that believers are faced with the tendency to banish God from public life and confine him to the "subjective realm of past residual cultures."

On April 1, when receiving the St. Benedict Award for the Promotion of Life and the Family in Europe, conferred by the Subiaco Foundation for Life and the Family, the dean of the College of Cardinals delivered an address on the present crisis of culture and identity, especially in the Old World.

After stating that "moral force has not grown apace with the development of science but, on the contrary, has diminished," Cardinal Ratzinger explained that "the most serious danger at this time is precisely the imbalance between technical possibilities and moral energy."

He gave two examples: the threat of terrorism and the possibility to manipulate the origin of human life.

The then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith—almost all heads of Vatican dicasteries lost their posts when John Paul II died— pointed out that "Europe has developed a culture that, in a way previously unknown to humanity, excludes God from the public consciousness, either by denying him altogether or by judging that his existence cannot be demonstrated, is uncertain and, therefore, somewhat irrelevant to public life."

An attempt is being made "to build the human community absolutely without God," the cardinal stressed.

"The rejection of reference to God is not an expression of tolerance which wishes to protect non-theist religions and the dignity of atheists and agnostics, but rather an expression of the desire to see God banished definitively from humanity's public life, and driven into the subjective realm of residual cultures of the past," he warned.

For the cardinal, the starting point of this view is "relativism," which has become "a dogmatism that believes it is in possession of the definitive knowledge of reason, and with the right to regard all the rest as a stage of humanity, which has basically been surpassed, and which can be suitably relativized."

At this rate, Cardinal Ratzinger added, we will no longer "be able to affirm that homosexuality, as the Catholic Church teaches, is an objective disorder of the structure of human existence."

"The fact that the Church is convinced of not having the right to confer priestly ordination on women, is now considered by some as irreconcilable with the European Constitution," he added.

In the final part of his address, Cardinal Ratzinger explained that "we need roots to survive and we must not lose them from sight if we do not want human dignity to disappear."

"Only creative reason, which has been manifested in the crucified God as love, can really show us the way," he said. "We need men who will keep their sight on God, learning there" what "true humanity" is, as "only through men touched by God, can God again be close to men." ZE05041102


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Stand in awe of the conclave. The Holy Spirit was indeed with them.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 04/19/2005 11:56:57 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: pinz-n-needlez; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; EggsAckley; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/19/2005 11:57:27 AM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Great thread. Thank you.


3 posted on 04/19/2005 12:02:04 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: MadIvan

Named after his favorite breakfast, no doubt...

4 posted on 04/19/2005 12:02:59 PM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: MadIvan

Thank you Ivan! :D


5 posted on 04/19/2005 12:04:28 PM PDT by Alkhin ("Ah-ah," admonished Pippin. "Head, blade, dead." ~ Peregrin Took, The Falcon)
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To: MadIvan
"The rejection of reference to God is not an expression of tolerance which wishes to protect non-theist religions and the dignity of atheists and agnostics, but rather an expression of the desire to see God banished definitively from humanity's public life, and driven into the subjective realm of residual cultures of the past," he warned.

LOL, Liberals were begging for a more liberal Pope and we were given a more conservative Pope. Looks like an excellent choice.

6 posted on 04/19/2005 12:05:30 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: MadIvan

bump for later


7 posted on 04/19/2005 12:06:45 PM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: MadIvan

The Glory of the Olives, of course....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1351430/posts


8 posted on 04/19/2005 12:06:52 PM PDT by Fred
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To: Always Right

It's no wonder that the Left is chewing the carpet at this point.

Regards, Ivan


9 posted on 04/19/2005 12:07:35 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
"The rejection of reference to God is not an expression of tolerance which wishes to protect non-theist religions and the dignity of atheists and agnostics, but rather an expression of the desire to see God banished definitively from humanity's public life, and driven into the subjective realm of residual cultures of the past," he warned.

As they read this, ACLU lawyers doubtless will respond, "Curses! He's on to us!"

10 posted on 04/19/2005 12:08:25 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Honestly - would anybody be surprised if it was revealed George Felos is a necrophiliac?)
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To: MadIvan; Coleus

Is it a sin to have believed that the Cardinals would have conceded to worldly pressures and elected a Pope that would satisfy the malcontents?

If so, I must head for confession post haste.


11 posted on 04/19/2005 12:09:57 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: MadIvan
It's no wonder that the Left is chewing the carpet at this point.

...who brought up Rosie O'Donnell?

12 posted on 04/19/2005 12:10:16 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Honestly - would anybody be surprised if it was revealed George Felos is a necrophiliac?)
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To: MadIvan
It's no wonder that the Left is chewing the carpet at this point.

...who brought up Rosie O'Donnell?

13 posted on 04/19/2005 12:10:23 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Honestly - would anybody be surprised if it was revealed George Felos is a necrophiliac?)
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To: MadIvan

I don't know why he chose the name but I learned some amazing things about the history of choosing a pope on the history channel last night.

Anti popes, 3 popes at once, popes chosen at the point of a sword. I think my favorite was when the cardinals were locked in and the roof was torn off to force them to choose a pope.


14 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: MadIvan

So, The Malachy Prophecy had nothing to do with the choice of name?


15 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:07 PM PDT by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; broadsword; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...
Catholic ping!!

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger says that believers are faced with the tendency to banish God from public life and confine him to the "subjective realm of past residual cultures."

On April 1, when receiving the St. Benedict Award for the Promotion of Life and the Family in Europe, conferred by the Subiaco Foundation for Life and the Family, the dean of the College of Cardinals delivered an address on the present crisis of culture and identity, especially in the Old World.

Eighteen days ago, Cardinal Ratzinger receives the St. Benedict Award from the Subiaco Foundation for Life. Subiaco is the name of city where the Grotto of St. Benedict is located.

Benedictine Monasteries of Subiaco

16 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:14 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Fred

He's not a Benedictine, is he?


17 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:20 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Incorrigible

I did not think the liberals would win. However, I did not think they would fold this quickly. I should have remembered the power of the Holy Spirit makes all things possible.

Regards, Ivan


18 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:30 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan; Lil'freeper

The libs are going to be hissing and spitting.


19 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:35 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: MadIvan

Wow - I'm not Catholic but I really respect this man and his intellect. He has hit the nail on the head.


20 posted on 04/19/2005 12:11:48 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: MadIvan
but rather an expression of the desire to see God banished definitively from humanity's public life

If there is no God, then there is no standard, and if there is no standard, everything IS relative...I've had this quote running through my head all week..."Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue."

21 posted on 04/19/2005 12:13:10 PM PDT by Dutchgirl (God is a physician,...suffering is a medicine for salvation, not a punishment for damnation." August)
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To: MadIvan

>> It's no wonder that the Left is chewing the carpet at this point. <<

Shame on you! Not all liberals are lesbians, Ivan. :^D


22 posted on 04/19/2005 12:15:34 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Dutchgirl

I have been thinking about Peggy Noonan's article about John Paul the Great's visit to Poland, and how the Poles cried out, "We want God". I think it's a common cry here, we want God. It's a common cry from humanity, "We want God". Only the Left, which seeks to make man's lusts and passions "God", does not want God. They just got informed (again) that God is here anyway.

Regards, Ivan


23 posted on 04/19/2005 12:16:02 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Bump for later.


24 posted on 04/19/2005 12:16:52 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: MadIvan
Pope Benedict XVI, while still a Cardinal, spoke out very harshly on "religious relativism", something that seems to become more and more popular in today's world, especially with our neighbors to the north and in Europe. And don't forget the Socialist State of Kalifornia.

A perfect example is homosexuality. The gays want to make gayness into shades of gray, in an attempt to legitimize their deviant and mortally sinful lifestyle. But there are no shades of gray when it comes to homosexuality and the Bible, both in the Old and New Testament.

This is one thing that made Pope John Paul II very unpopular with a lot of liberals and will no doubt make Pope Benedict XVI unpopular as well. He spoke in absolutes on certain topics, gays, abortion, divorce and adultery to name just four. Things that are ok if you are a lefty.

The DUmmies are already slamming him, calling him one of the Hitler Youth.
25 posted on 04/19/2005 12:17:42 PM PDT by stm
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To: stm
The DUmmies are already slamming him, calling him one of the Hitler Youth.

They should be frightened. Yet another bastion did not fall. The tide is against them, and everything they believe.

Regards, Ivan

26 posted on 04/19/2005 12:20:37 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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"[H]omosexuality, as the Catholic Church teaches, is an objective disorder of the structure of human existence."

No irony there. No, not at all. None.

27 posted on 04/19/2005 12:21:26 PM PDT by lugsoul ("maybe those who are defending this judicial murder could be said to be WORSE than Nazis." - EV)
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To: MadIvan

Thanks for the post, Ivan. Some great quotes to help us see his heart.....I like him already!


28 posted on 04/19/2005 12:23:02 PM PDT by Fam4Bush (More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of..........(A.L. Tennyson))
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To: MadIvan

bump


29 posted on 04/19/2005 12:23:25 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: lugsoul

It isn't ironic at all. Members of the Church on earth are imperfect beings, are they not?


30 posted on 04/19/2005 12:24:01 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: MadIvan
Hmmm.

So let me see what we have here.....

1. These words of truth from the new Pope.

2. A homosexual Bishop from the Presiding Bishop and the en-fricking-tire House of Bishops of ECUSA

3. A threat by the Episcopal Bishop of CT to defrock six priests in Connecticut for not throwing away the teachings of Scripture and embracing homosexuals as priests, Bishops and church officers. (It's not that there are six who are threatened, it is that there are ONLY SIX!)

Hmmm?

Why am I still an Episcopalian?

31 posted on 04/19/2005 12:24:07 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Planned Parenthood is neither.)
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To: Fam4Bush

The more I learn about him, the more I like him - he is a powerful ally in the moral redemption of the West.

Regards, Ivan


32 posted on 04/19/2005 12:24:33 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: N. Theknow
Why am I still an Episcopalian?

No idea. But you are welcome in the Catholic Church.

Regards, Ivan

33 posted on 04/19/2005 12:26:02 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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as the Catholic Church teaches

No irony there. No, not at all. None.

What? You never ignored your teacher's instructions? Teaching is one thing, actually living it out is another.

34 posted on 04/19/2005 12:27:08 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: MadIvan

You have an interesting background for being a Catholic. ;-)


35 posted on 04/19/2005 12:27:20 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: stm

Michael Medved has some real winners calling his show today on this subject as well.


36 posted on 04/19/2005 12:27:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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To: Pyro7480

My parents, in their wisdom, decided I should go to a Catholic school as a lad. And that has stayed with me. Ironically, I now live near what used to be the centre of the Catholic aristocracy in England.

Regards, Ivan


37 posted on 04/19/2005 12:28:46 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan

He did it to mess with Hal Lindsay's head.


38 posted on 04/19/2005 12:30:35 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: N. Theknow
Why am I still an Episcopalian?

A good Prayer Book and good singing?

39 posted on 04/19/2005 12:30:47 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: MadIvan; stm; 11th_VA; Unam Sanctam; Pyro7480; beezdotcom; cripplecreek; L.N. Smithee

The "Pope Benedict" name has an interesting history for today, as the previous Pope Benedict attempted to mediate an end to the horrors of the stalemated trench warfare of the First World War that killed an entire generation of French, British, Germans, and Russians.

A war that was only able to be ended by a mobile American Army, going all the way over to Europe to do what the Europeans themselves could not.

So such a Pope's name recognizes the current global war on terror, America's role, and what part the Church should play.

40 posted on 04/19/2005 12:31:09 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Kenton
Silly!

It's his favorite after dinner drink!

41 posted on 04/19/2005 12:32:34 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Tribune7
He did it to mess with Hal Lindsay's head.

From the little I've seen, that wouldn't take much.

42 posted on 04/19/2005 12:33:20 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: MadIvan
No idea. But you are welcome in the Catholic Church.

Thanks Ivan.

It's looking better every day.

43 posted on 04/19/2005 12:33:59 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Planned Parenthood is neither.)
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To: MadIvan

Where exactly is that center? I visited what I consider to be the "spiritual centre" of England, which is Our Lady's Shrine at Walsingham a few months ago in September 2004.


44 posted on 04/19/2005 12:34:27 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: siunevada
Oh, it is a bit more convoluted than that.

When the teachers are the ones not only failing to live it out, but causing - nay, forcing - their students to deviate from the teaching, it is a bit more complicated than "ignoring your teacher's instructions."

45 posted on 04/19/2005 12:35:07 PM PDT by lugsoul ("maybe those who are defending this judicial murder could be said to be WORSE than Nazis." - EV)
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To: beezdotcom
"9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

Also, Romans 11:13-27 mentions the natural olive tree branches (Israel) being grafted into their own tree.

He should be a powerful Church leader in the midst of remarkable times...

46 posted on 04/19/2005 12:35:44 PM PDT by Fam4Bush (More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of..........(A.L. Tennyson))
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To: dead

Nah. It was because Ron Mexico was already taken.


47 posted on 04/19/2005 12:35:48 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Pyro7480
Arundel Castle

Regards, Ivan

48 posted on 04/19/2005 12:37:02 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
It's no wonder that the Left is chewing the carpet at this point.

On this side of the pond, carpet muncher is slang for lesbian.

49 posted on 04/19/2005 12:37:04 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (habemus papum, Benedict XVI)
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