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Why the Holy Father chose the name "Benedict"...?
QueenOfPeace.Ca ^ | April 12, 2005 | Zenit.org

Posted on 04/19/2005 11:56:55 AM PDT by MadIvan

Cardinal Ratzinger on the Banishment of God From Public Life

Receives St. Benedict Award for Promotion of Life and Family

SUBIACO, Italy, APRIL 12, 2005 (Zenit.org).- Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger says that believers are faced with the tendency to banish God from public life and confine him to the "subjective realm of past residual cultures."

On April 1, when receiving the St. Benedict Award for the Promotion of Life and the Family in Europe, conferred by the Subiaco Foundation for Life and the Family, the dean of the College of Cardinals delivered an address on the present crisis of culture and identity, especially in the Old World.

After stating that "moral force has not grown apace with the development of science but, on the contrary, has diminished," Cardinal Ratzinger explained that "the most serious danger at this time is precisely the imbalance between technical possibilities and moral energy."

He gave two examples: the threat of terrorism and the possibility to manipulate the origin of human life.

The then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith—almost all heads of Vatican dicasteries lost their posts when John Paul II died— pointed out that "Europe has developed a culture that, in a way previously unknown to humanity, excludes God from the public consciousness, either by denying him altogether or by judging that his existence cannot be demonstrated, is uncertain and, therefore, somewhat irrelevant to public life."

An attempt is being made "to build the human community absolutely without God," the cardinal stressed.

"The rejection of reference to God is not an expression of tolerance which wishes to protect non-theist religions and the dignity of atheists and agnostics, but rather an expression of the desire to see God banished definitively from humanity's public life, and driven into the subjective realm of residual cultures of the past," he warned.

For the cardinal, the starting point of this view is "relativism," which has become "a dogmatism that believes it is in possession of the definitive knowledge of reason, and with the right to regard all the rest as a stage of humanity, which has basically been surpassed, and which can be suitably relativized."

At this rate, Cardinal Ratzinger added, we will no longer "be able to affirm that homosexuality, as the Catholic Church teaches, is an objective disorder of the structure of human existence."

"The fact that the Church is convinced of not having the right to confer priestly ordination on women, is now considered by some as irreconcilable with the European Constitution," he added.

In the final part of his address, Cardinal Ratzinger explained that "we need roots to survive and we must not lose them from sight if we do not want human dignity to disappear."

"Only creative reason, which has been manifested in the crucified God as love, can really show us the way," he said. "We need men who will keep their sight on God, learning there" what "true humanity" is, as "only through men touched by God, can God again be close to men." ZE05041102


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To: N. Theknow

My heartfelt prayers for a safe trip home.


51 posted on 04/19/2005 12:37:36 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: lugsoul
Read the news much? I guess not.

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52 posted on 04/19/2005 12:39:52 PM PDT by stm
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To: lugsoul

Teachings aren't always followed by humans. The Church has been around much longer than those jokers.


53 posted on 04/19/2005 12:42:31 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: MadIvan

Ratzinger. He's not Cliff Claven's brother is he?


54 posted on 04/19/2005 12:42:46 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: MadIvan
Thanks! There is an Anne Arundel County in Maryland, which was founded as a colony where Catholics could have religious freedom.

Ann Arundel County, Maryland

56 posted on 04/19/2005 12:45:05 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

By "jokers," I presume you are referring to all of those high officials in the Church who doled out tickle slaps on the wrist to those who enable pedophiliac priests by sweeping their crimes under the rug? Including Santo Subito himself?


57 posted on 04/19/2005 12:46:33 PM PDT by lugsoul ("maybe those who are defending this judicial murder could be said to be WORSE than Nazis." - EV)
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To: Always Right

It is truly amazing to watch liberals react to this pope.

Just in my office, I have heard him called every name in the book including "nazi." There is no tolerance on the left.


58 posted on 04/19/2005 12:47:26 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Unam Sanctam

he is now!


59 posted on 04/19/2005 12:48:06 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: MadIvan
I'm not so sure the cry is for God, but rather a cry for understanding. Seems that once something is proven, whether secular or spiritual, something comes along from the other realm to disprove it. Life and the world of theology is confusing. I was listening to a religious talk show last night. The program was discussing how were created in God's image. To me an image is me. When I look in a mirror, I see my image, for better or worse. So, if I was created in God's image, how could I be imperfect and sin when in fact He is perfect? I should be just like the mirror of me when I am an image of him.

I read a chapter in Corintians that mentioned that liars, adulters and others who sin will not inherit the kingdom. Yet many evangelical churches say that salvation cannot be lost by sinning. Yet clearly the scripture is in conflict with the church on that one.

Just some ramblings of someone trying to make heads and tails of all this.

60 posted on 04/19/2005 12:48:39 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: lugsoul

Oh, it's obvious where you're coming from. These people will have to answer for their actions at the Throne of God. The focus now is to make sure it doesn't happen again. I have confidence that things will work out. The Church has been in far worse situation.


61 posted on 04/19/2005 12:49:38 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: MadIvan

Many have said that the selection of the name of a Pope is in conjunction with the preceeding Pope who had that name and that the new Pope will hold to many of his teachings. The only thing I can find for sure about Pope Benedict XV was that he was a great arbiter of peace during World War I and referred to all sides of the conflict as beligerants.


62 posted on 04/19/2005 12:50:38 PM PDT by kempster
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To: Always Right

Tonight on MSNBC Michael Newdow bursts into flames!


63 posted on 04/19/2005 12:52:25 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: lugsoul
Oh, it is a bit more convoluted than that.

It doesn't seem convoluted to me. Individual persons know the teaching and fail to live up to it. That's what sinners do and, yes, it has disasterous consequences for innocent victims.

64 posted on 04/19/2005 12:52:28 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: Pyro7480; MadIvan

Benedict XV beat out Mariano Rampolla del Tindaro, the candidate of the 1903 conclave who was blocked because of allegations of secret society membership.
Was Ratzinger sending a signal?


65 posted on 04/19/2005 12:54:38 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: MediaMole

Charge every damn one of them with EEOC violations. Or ask in liue of that would they care to go out into the parking lot.


66 posted on 04/19/2005 12:57:18 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: MadIvan

Thank you, MadIvan, as always.


67 posted on 04/19/2005 12:58:44 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: Pyro7480

This will be interesting. He could be a peacemaker of sorts within the Church if he unites the opposing elements. Ratzinger is the most likely to revert to Tradition. If so, a prophecy could be fulfilled if AmChurch schisms under Ratzinger's crackdowns. The challenge for the Church in America is grave.

I am cautiously optimistic. Chris Ferrara in Rome reported a conclave battle between the Ratzinger and Tettamanzi factions. He was right. I am relieved he won.


68 posted on 04/19/2005 12:59:44 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Pyro7480
On April 1, when receiving the St. Benedict Award for the Promotion of Life and the Family in Europe

Interesting. Note the date. He received this aptly named award as the pope died.

69 posted on 04/19/2005 1:02:29 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: joesbucks

"I read a chapter in Corintians that mentioned that liars, adulters and others who sin will not inherit the kingdom. Yet many evangelical churches say that salvation cannot be lost by sinning. Yet clearly the scripture is in conflict with the church on that one."

Correction: Yet clearly the scripture is in conflict with "evangelical" churches on that one.


70 posted on 04/19/2005 1:03:23 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: beezdotcom
So,the Malachy Prophesy had nothing to do with the choice of the name?

The 111th St. Malachy prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

Will Pope Benedict XVI have an olive branch on his coat of arms, signifying a coming together of all factions in the Church.

I think "the Glory of the Olive" has been fulfilled.

71 posted on 04/19/2005 1:03:39 PM PDT by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: Incorrigible

Ye of little faith.


72 posted on 04/19/2005 1:04:34 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: Southack

That is not true at all. World War I would have ended on its own had we stayed out. Wilson entering that war was the biggest mistake of the 20th century.


73 posted on 04/19/2005 1:05:14 PM PDT by ValenB4 (Viva il Papa, Benedict XVI)
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To: MadIvan

Ivan, all but two of the cardinals were chosen by John Paul II........they would not have abandoned him when choosing his successor.


74 posted on 04/19/2005 1:05:57 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJOR TAMMY DUCKWORTH.....INSPIRATIONAL)
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To: joesbucks
God is a spirit with no body. We are created in God's image in that we are a spirit (our soul) with an intellect and free will. So, He is not talking about a visual image that can be reflected in a mirror.

He has given us bodies and a free will as part of His test for us. We can choose Him and attempt to overcome the passions of our bodies or we can reject Him and be controlled by our passions.

75 posted on 04/19/2005 1:06:02 PM PDT by ELS (Viva Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Pyro7480

"I am cautiously optimistic."

That's a good way to describe how I feel too! He isn't a Traditionalist, but he certainly has proven to be the friend of Traditionalists on many occasions.

At least we now have a Pope who has celebrated the Tridentine Mass recently!


76 posted on 04/19/2005 1:08:09 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: ELS

Well, partially true. Jesus is God, and He has a body.


77 posted on 04/19/2005 1:08:18 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: ValenB4
"That is not true at all. World War I would have ended on its own had we stayed out. Wilson entering that war was the biggest mistake of the 20th century."

No, it is entirely true that the stalemate would have continued had the U.S. Army not intervened in the Great War.

78 posted on 04/19/2005 1:08:24 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MadIvan

Sorry about your bishop! ;)


79 posted on 04/19/2005 1:09:10 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: ELS

You are a soul. You have a body.


80 posted on 04/19/2005 1:09:44 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (St. Louis bring back Torre.)
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To: OldFriend
Ye of little faith.

I did mention that that Pope John Paul the Great's visit to Giants Stadium nearly turned me into a fair weather Catholic on the NJ board! :-)

81 posted on 04/19/2005 1:11:13 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Pyro7480

Well, there are three persons in the Holy Trinity and two of them are spirits. The spirits win 2-1! ;-)


82 posted on 04/19/2005 1:12:24 PM PDT by ELS (Viva Benedictus XVI!)
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To: big'ol_freeper; MadIvan
"The libs are going to be hissing and spitting.'

They already are. Catholic or not, we have to really pray for this guy.

83 posted on 04/19/2005 1:12:54 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (...rethinking the Oprah thing. Watch Soros closely.)
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To: beezdotcom
The Malachy Prophecy

I read some of that yesterday. Looks like we're closing in on the Second Coming.

84 posted on 04/19/2005 1:13:06 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Tantumergo

Wouldn't it be a riot if Benedict XVI offered a Traditional Mass for his first Mass this Sunday?

People would come unglued. (fwiw,I sensed his Latin Novus Ordo for the Pope's funeral sent a subtle message).


85 posted on 04/19/2005 1:13:33 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Tantumergo
He isn't a Traditionalist, but he certainly has proven to be the friend of Traditionalists on many occasions. At least we now have a Pope who has celebrated the Tridentine Mass recently!

Although NO myself, I'm glad to hear that. I pray he starts by reinstituting the prayer of St. Michael the Archangel after Masses. I don't believe that prayer can be said too often.

86 posted on 04/19/2005 1:13:59 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Because Pope Benedict XVI is 78 years old, don't you think the liberal CINO's would try to wait it out to continue their crusade for destruction from within?


87 posted on 04/19/2005 1:14:36 PM PDT by GatorGirl (God Bless Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Always Right; All
"Listen carefully, my son, to the Master's instructions, and attend to them with the ear of your heart. This is advice from a father who loves you; welcome it, and faithfully put it into practice. The labor of obedience will bring you back to him from whom you had drifted through the sloth of disobedience. This message of mine is for all, and armed with the strong and noble weapons of obedience to do battle for the true king, Christ the Lord."

The Rule of St. Benedict, Prologue, verses 1-3

The significance is clear to see.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

88 posted on 04/19/2005 1:15:37 PM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Southack

WWI was not a matter of Good vs. Evil. It was a nonideological war and both sides were exhausting each other to the point that they couldn't continue and a negotiated settlement was inevitable had we stayed out. It's unfair ending set the stage for Hitler and Stalin. What a triumph.


89 posted on 04/19/2005 1:15:57 PM PDT by ValenB4 (Viva il Papa, Benedict XVI)
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To: Tantumergo
At least we now have a Pope who has celebrated the Tridentine Mass recently!

I missed that. When and where did that happen?

90 posted on 04/19/2005 1:16:45 PM PDT by ELS (Viva Benedictus XVI!)
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To: MadIvan

bump


91 posted on 04/19/2005 1:19:56 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: kempster
"The only thing I can find for sure about Pope Benedict XV was that he was a great arbiter of peace during World War I and referred to all sides of the conflict as beligerants."

I was watching ABC news commentary at the time they were waiting for the Pope to appear. Fr. Richard McBrien was filling time and expounding what it would mean if the new Pope chose the name Benedict XVI.

He was saying how Benedict XV was known for an encyclical about bringing all factions of the Church together, specifically, conservatives, traditionalists, liberals, and progressives.

Our new Pope undoubtedly gave this name much thought beforehand, and will be a uniter.

BTW, McBrien was flabbergasted when he discovered Ratzinger ad been chosen, and again when he found out he had taken the name Benedict. He called it all "very controversial" which is lib speak for how could they elect this jerk.

God Bless and keep safe His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI

92 posted on 04/19/2005 1:20:29 PM PDT by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: MadIvan

God bless the new Pope. He is a good and learned man. I think he has the mental rigor, the self-discipline, and the spiritual guidance to fight the continuing tide of Modernism.


93 posted on 04/19/2005 1:22:09 PM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: GatorGirl

I don't know. With modern medicine and Ratzinger's seeming good health he could live a good 15 years or so.

The AmChurch libs are getting old. This is their last hurrah. The danger is they control church property in America. A schism could leave conservatives without churches in most places.

You have to take into account the bishops who would remain loyal to Rome. In California I would guess two: Weigand and Vigneron. Vigneron is a conservative in liberal hell. He already has no control in his diocese. Outside CA you have Chaput, Burke, Bruskewitz, Dolan, the one in Arizona and probably a few others who would remain loyal to Rome. They aren't the majority by any means.


94 posted on 04/19/2005 1:22:51 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
People would come unglued

Some people are already coming unglued ... I have highly reliable reports of leftist nuns reacting to Pope Benedict XVI's election by slamming their office doors and having the crying fit to end all crying fits.

Der Panzerpapst is already changing the ecclesiastical landscape.

95 posted on 04/19/2005 1:24:46 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

"Wouldn't it be a riot if Benedict XVI offered a Traditional Mass for his first Mass this Sunday?"

Yup - I would be so happy that I'd p@@s myself!!! Probably not too likely though. He has very strong opinions about returning to ad orientem celebration of Mass, so maybe we will see incremental moves towards Tradition.

"(fwiw,I sensed his Latin Novus Ordo for the Pope's funeral sent a subtle message)."

Yes - I got the distinct impression that Marini had been elbowed out of the way! Also did you notice how at the pre-conclave Mass, the other Cardinals did not concelebrate, but sat "in choir"?


96 posted on 04/19/2005 1:27:04 PM PDT by Tantumergo
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To: ArrogantBustard
I have highly reliable reports of leftist nuns reacting to Pope Benedict XVI's election by slamming their office doors and having the crying fit to end all crying fits.

I am experiencing papal schadenfreude. Or is that schadenpapal

97 posted on 04/19/2005 1:27:38 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (habemus papum, Benedict XVI)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Some people are already coming unglued ... I have highly reliable reports of leftist nuns reacting to Pope Benedict XVI's election by slamming their office doors and having the crying fit to end all crying fits.

I know I'm not supposed to laugh, but I'm laughing.

98 posted on 04/19/2005 1:28:54 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: MadIvan

This should shake up the EU, or is that wake up the EU, to who the real master of the universe is ?


99 posted on 04/19/2005 1:30:59 PM PDT by John Lenin (Hillary Clinton, even her friends don't like her.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

>> A schism could leave conservatives without churches in most places. <<

That's a maybe.
Let the other religions who are close to us, i.e. the Anglicans, continue to drift left and we tighten up our conservative ways and we might find that whole churches coming to us.

Or maybe I'm dreaming.


100 posted on 04/19/2005 1:31:05 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Oh Lord help me this day to keep my big mouth shut)
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