Skip to comments.Soros says be patient ('massive investment in “startup” progressive think tanks')
Posted on 04/19/2005 7:32:27 PM PDT by Cableguy
George Soros told a carefully vetted gathering of 70 likeminded millionaires and billionaires last weekend that they must be patient if they want to realize long-term political and ideological yields from an expected massive investment in startup progressive think tanks.
The Scottsdale, Ariz., meeting, called to start the process of building an ideas production line for liberal politicians, began what organizers hope will be a long dialogue with the partners, many from the high-tech industry. Participants have begun to refer to themselves as the Phoenix Group.
Rob Stein, a veteran of President Bill Clintons Commerce Department and of New York investment banking, convened the meeting of venture capitalists, left-leaning moneymen and a select few D.C. strategists on how to seed pro-Democratic think tanks, media outlets and leadership schools to compete with such entrenched conservative institutions as the Heritage Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute and the Leadership Institute.
Senior Democratic National Committee (DNC) officials were quietly briefed about the meeting in recent weeks. DNC Chairman Howard Dean was aware of it, in part though his friendship with Stein, but one senior DNC source said the organizers kept that list [of attendees] kind of tight.
Sarah Ingersoll, de facto spokeswoman for Steins Democracy Alliance, said it was a very preliminary meeting of committed donors interested in building a community to support progressive infrastructure.
The Democracy Alliance will act as a clearinghouse and is expected to channel much of its money to new organizations and existing ones such as John Podestas Center for American Progress and David Brocks Media Matters for America.
The money details are several weeks away. There arent dollar figures at this point, Ingersoll said. Soros, a Hungarian-born financier who donated more than $23 million to pro-Democratic 527 groups last cycle, gave the main presentation, said Ingersoll, who declined to name the other presenters.
Primarily, were looking at making recommendations and thinking through with these donors on how they can form an alliance, she added. This is about creating a network of individuals to share information to be effective in whatever they do going forward.
Participants were tight-lipped, saying they wanted to keep media expectations low, even suggesting that the Scottsdale gathering was too insignificant to report. Other participants included former White House press secretary Mike McCurry and New Democrat Network president Simon Rosenberg. Andy Rappaport, a Silicon Valley venture capitalist and reliable investor in liberal causes, did not attend the meeting, his spokeswomen said.
Ingersoll said funding transparency is a priority, which she said would contrast with some right-wing groups.
But transparency was not on display among the Scottsdale participants contacted by The Hill. Details of the meeting remained sparse.
Most of the participants had already seen Steins slick presentation titled The Conservative Message Machines Money Matrix, which lays out how right-leaning donors have funded and invested in organization that churn out conservative ideas. Stein unveiled his presentation at the Democratic National Convention in Boston last year, at an event hosted by Rosenberg and NDN.
Ingersoll denied that progressives are merely trying to replicate Heritage and Fox News.
Another source at the meeting said that it was important for existing progressive groups to coordinate their activities and to avoid the turf wars that have riven progressive causes in the past.
One source at the DNC with direct knowledge of the agenda said that the Phoenix Group had three specific goals at the outset. It wants to create liberal think tanks, training camps for young progressives and media centers.
Despite the general recognition that progressives are several years behind conservatives, liberal activists are confident that technology will help them close the gap. Technology may allow us to do in a few years what it took the other side 40 years, the DNC source said.
But the Phoenix Group is not beholden to the political calendar, and several sources insisted that four-year electoral exigencies were not motivating the project. Indeed, part of the reasoning in keeping D.C. consultants away from Scottsdale was to shield the high-tech donor base from political operatives, who are always eager for quick dollars to buy media points and fund direct mail.
This is bigger than that, the DNC source said
I hear Air America is doing real well
Thanks for the post. Enemies within.
They abandoned it as worse than useless after 70 years of struggle.
Soros is a fool if he thinks he can do better.
What are they talking about?
Now that the Democrats have assembled a conclave of millionaires and billionaires to try and take over the American political process, can we finally stop hearing that it is the GOP which is the "party of the rich"?
Exactly. I think Soros is basically a con-man who has found his mark.
They already have those. They're called colleges!
I see darkness in Sorasses future.
So Soros is going to use a top-down club of millionaires to create a bottom-up movement of citizens. That should work out wonderfully.
So their current ideas are so played out that they needed a confab of billionaires to come up with more ways to spend the little-peoples' tax money.
Is George Soros totally mad?
I find him really frightening.
If anyone is now powerful enough and evil enough to be a candidate for title antichrist, Soros is it.
Whenever you mention Soros it should be "convicted criminal Soros".
"Progressive" Think Tanks?
Now, I've heard everthing.
to win they're going to have to convince americans, for example, that child molesters belong on the streets, that gay marriage is a good, that commuting on buses and trains is more efficient than by cars, etc.
any way you look at it, they have a losing agenda.
Soros is a fool if he thinks he can do better.
Actually, Soros is just a fool. Period.
Yeah, you libs: Heed the command of Soros your master.
Be a patient.
Check yourselves into a clinical ward for inpatient care. You all are sick in the brain and need serious medical treatment.
The last line of the article sent shiver up my spine-
"This is bigger than that", one DNC spokesman said"
Did any of you see O'Reilly tonight? He had on a guy from the University of Chicago Law School, and he is one of the members of Soros' group that he put together at Yale to write a New Constitution of the United States---
What this guy was saying was outright socialism--Bill asked him if they believed in private property, and they guy said something like, "Yes, as long as people share the land with others"---Huh? He was weird but it totally sounds like from those who have much to those who have none, to me!!!
Soros is scary, and ole Harry Reid is imitating him with his "war room" in the Senate building with a bunch of new aides and running commercials blasting PEOPLE like Bolton for no factual reason--
Since "liberal intellectual" is oxymoronic, "progressive think tank" is a term of nonsense. What they really need is more media outlets. There ought to be a law, though, that such as Air America is anathema while driving. Too many drivers sleep away their lives as it is.
>>>Ingersoll denied that progressives are merely trying to replicate Heritage and Fox News.
Replicate? I take this as a declaration of war.
They want to enter a discrediting mud sling battle.
Wouldn't Sorry Soros been smarter to have just passed out hundred dollar bills in Ohio in November...hmmmmmmm
Well, as they say: "they are easily parted."
That was my first thought: MENTAL PATIENTS!
Next Dr. Soros will be telling 'em: "Now shut up and take your thorzene!"
This is what "Campaign Finance Reform" gets you. Instead of people donating openly to the parties, and having the money logged, money gets donated to a myriad of no-name fronts that can be deniably independent of the party.
Great work, guys.
He is THE FOOL.
Call me petty .. but at the moment, I want to see him broke and homeless
Progressive Think Tanks = oxymoron.
Here is a great FReeper post by rdb3 with great FReeper comment and links. This Front Page Magazine piece on $oro$ by Richard Poe is outstanding.
Soros only cons DUmmies these days. The flop of Soros' production of Get Delay caused the wheels of clout and credibility to fall off of his a$$ clown car, Olde Media.
Their "think tanks" are already cruising on FUMES!
I really think that they should call themselves what they are. LOSERS!!!!
What makes me a little reluctant to dismiss them is their willingness to talk the talk of principle but yet undermine that very principle with every action. Just look at Hillary moving to the right in rhetoric but ever faithful to her hero Saul Alinsky.
This is the only thing these people know how to do .. they meet and discuss things .. they never do anything about what they talk about - they're all talk and no action.
So what else is new ..??
Do you think they have finally realized the reason they keep losing elections is they have no ideas?
They haven't had an ORIGINAL idea in 50+ years, you'd think they'd get a clue....but apparently they aren't bright enough to figure that out! All they have is political bomb-throwing scandal mongers, and yet still EXPECT to win. Whoever penned the phrase "Politics of personal destruction" should revise that as Dimbocraps practice the POLITICS OF SELF-DESTRUCTION!
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