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Feminist, Homosexual Groups Turn Thumbs Down on New Pope
Cyber News Service ^ | 20 April 2005 | Susan Jones

Posted on 04/20/2005 8:41:17 AM PDT by SkyPilot

(CNSNews.com) - American Catholics who want major changes in the church are not happy with the election of a "hard-line" pope who backs longstanding Catholic doctine.

The Women's Ordination Conference, a Catholic feminist organization working for the ordination of women priests, said the church desperately needs a healer, but the cardinals have elected a divider: "This is another example of how the hierarchy is out of touch with Catholics in the pews," said Joy Barnes, executive director of the Women's Ordination Conference.

According to the WOC, recent polls show that over two-thirds of U.S. Catholics support women's ordination, yet Ratzinger has repeatedly stated his firm opposition to women priests.

"Cardinal Ratzinger's election as pope will galvanize faithful Catholics to work even more passionately for a renewed priesthood that includes women," said Aisha Taylor, WOC's program director.

"We pray for Pope Benedict XVI to lead the Roman Catholic Church toward reconciliation for the church's sins of abuse, sexism, racism, heterosexism and all oppression. We trust the Holy Spirit will continue to work in our church to fulfill Jesus' radical message of justice."

"Rigid''

The National Coalition of American Nuns noted that the new pope has the reputation of being "rigid in his position as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, silencing and expelling theologians, priests and nuns whom he perceived as not being orthodox.

"He certainly is not known for his sensitivity to the exclusion of women in the Church's leadership," the nuns said in a statement.

The group said it would pray for a miracle - that Pope Benedict XVI "will, like the Benedictines, be hospitable and welcome all persons.

"We pray that he will be open to the full partnership and full participation of women in a church that suffers because of the lack of women's creativity and lived experience. We do believe in miracles," the National Coalition of American Nuns concluded.

"Distressing''

A number of homosexual advocacy groups expressed the Catholic Church''s future treatment of homosexual and transgender people.

DignityUSA, which bills itself as the "voice for gay, lesbian, and transgender Catholics," reacted with "dismay" to the elevation of Cardinal Ratzinger.

"The new Pope is seen as the principal author of the most virulently anti-gay, anti-GLBT rhetoric in the last papacy," said DignityUSA President Sam Sinnett.

"The elevation of Cardinal Ratzinger is being seen by many GLBT Catholics as a profound betrayal by the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church and betrayal of one of the most fundamental teachings of Jesus Christ as the loving Good Shepherd who reached out to the ones separated from the flock."

Sinnett called the election of the new pope a test of faith: "We express deep sadness for all those who will find themselves further alienated from the church because of Cardinal Ratzinger's assumption of the papacy. With their support and that of all our members and allies, we will re-double our efforts to speak the truth of our lives as faithful GLBT Catholics."

DignityUSA called on its members to enter into a "period of prayer for the church and the world" from now until Pentecost, which will be celebrated on May 15th. "Pentecost is the feast of the birth of the church," said Sinnett. "We pray that this Pentecost may be a time of rebirth."

"We hope that Pope Benedict XVI will follow the biblical tradition of expressing love and compassion for all," said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese in a statement.

"In the past, he has made deeply disturbing comments regarding gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people so his selection as the 265th pope is distressing. It's imperative that there be a positive conversation with the Catholic Church about GLBT people of faith and we welcome that discourse."

The Human Rights Campaign noted that in 1986, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger delivered a Letter to the bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons. He wrote, "Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil."

"Disappointment''

The Triangle Foundation, which serves Michigan''s gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender (GLBT) and allied communities, said the new pope has been among "the most virulent, hard-line doctrinaire conservatives, especially on the issue of choice, gay and lesbian inclusion and acceptance and most of the other "social'' issues faced by the Catholic Church.

"This elevation can only be a disappointment to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Catholics and others of us who observe and monitor the Church''s activism," said Jeffrey Montgomery, executive director of the Triangle Foundation.

"Based on his history and his demagoguery it is nearly impossible to imagine that this new Pope will usher in an era of reconciliation and welcome. Ratzinger has been the author and voice of oppression and attack on GLBT people."

"Homophobic''

The Rev. Troy D. Perry, a homosexual activist and moderator of the Metropolitan Community Churches, expressed a "deep sadness that one of the world's most homophobic religious leaders has been elevated to the papacy, and regret that his policies will continue to devalue the rich spiritual gifts of LGBT people and women of faith.

"My faith teaches that all people can change, so my prayers today are that the eyes of Cardinal Ratzinger -- now Pope Benedict XVI -- will be opened to the unique giftedness and blessing that LGBT people can be to the church.

"And my prayers today are with my brothers and sisters in the Roman Catholic Church, and those whose lives will be harmed by church policies that treat LGBT people with less than unconditional acceptance and dignity.""


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But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without selfcontrol, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God– 5having a form of godliness but denying its power.

2 Timothy 3: 1-5


1 posted on 04/20/2005 8:41:25 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Guess they picked the correct Pope, if these freaks are unhappy.


2 posted on 04/20/2005 8:42:31 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: SkyPilot

good


3 posted on 04/20/2005 8:42:41 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Question of the week: Can you think country music sucks and still be a Conservative?)
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To: SkyPilot

BFD.


4 posted on 04/20/2005 8:43:13 AM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: SkyPilot

The enemy of your enemy is your friend. To me this reaffirms him as a good choice.


5 posted on 04/20/2005 8:44:07 AM PDT by Pookee
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To: SkyPilot

who sez the word of God is subject to popular opinion?


6 posted on 04/20/2005 8:44:40 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: SkyPilot

I can't think of a better endorsement of the new Pope!


7 posted on 04/20/2005 8:44:40 AM PDT by Aetius
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To: SkyPilot

Do you get the feeling this article had already been written a while ago with "Insert new Pope Name Here" tabs scattered through out?


8 posted on 04/20/2005 8:44:54 AM PDT by Sax
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To: SkyPilot

All the more reason for me to like this Pope!


9 posted on 04/20/2005 8:45:32 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: SkyPilot
The gnashing of teeth is quite loud.

Sounds to me like the right person was chosen for Pope.

10 posted on 04/20/2005 8:45:41 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SkyPilot

New Pope Turns Thumb Down on Feminist, Homosexual Groups


Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

11 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:16 AM PDT by Owl_Eagle (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: SkyPilot

If it ticks off the "dikes on bikes", it must be something good. And PUHLEASE THE PIC AAAAAAAACK! I just ate breakfast!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeff


12 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:24 AM PDT by MississippyMuddy (No peace, without FREEDOM!!)
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To: SkyPilot

The catholic church is not going to bless what it knows is sin. If your lifestyle is sinful by the church's standards you can go and sin no more or find a church that doesn't think it's sin.

Don't expect the Vatican to validate what you do as right because you want to feel better.


13 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:44 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Why do these people think anyone gives a rat's a** what they think? They just have to have attention. Poor children, probably neglected when they were born. Wish they would just shut up. No one cares.


14 posted on 04/20/2005 8:46:49 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: SkyPilot

is that first picture really neccessary?

My wife's boss is catholic and is NOT happy about this decision by the church.


15 posted on 04/20/2005 8:47:17 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: MeanWestTexan

My thoughts exactly!


16 posted on 04/20/2005 8:47:23 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: SkyPilot

Only a lesbien pope would get a true "thumbs up" from both groups.


17 posted on 04/20/2005 8:47:54 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SkyPilot
Did they change the rules for electing a Pope while I wasn't looking?

Weirdos and perverts now have to approve the selection?

18 posted on 04/20/2005 8:48:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: MikeinIraq; MeanWestTexan
I am still trying to figure out what "heterosexism" means, other than anyone who is a heterosexual is "evil" in their sight.
19 posted on 04/20/2005 8:48:45 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Well, the new Pope certainly has the right enemies!


20 posted on 04/20/2005 8:48:46 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Sax

Boiler plate journalism?


21 posted on 04/20/2005 8:48:52 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Liberalism is bad news for modern man.)
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To: SkyPilot

That headline should read "People Who Have Always Hated Church Still Hate It"


22 posted on 04/20/2005 8:48:59 AM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: SkyPilot

Hopefully this is the same response Saint Peter gives the ass pirates when they get to the pearly gates.


23 posted on 04/20/2005 8:49:49 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Eliminate the MIF (Mexican Invasion Force))
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To: Owl_Eagle

The Holy Spirit didn't select this man to be Pope without a good reason. We will find out what that reason was as time goes by.


24 posted on 04/20/2005 8:49:57 AM PDT by Russ
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To: SkyPilot

Cardinal NO, aka Pope Benedict XVI, RULES!!


25 posted on 04/20/2005 8:50:42 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (If you're not part of the solution, YOU ARE the problem.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; NYer; Salvation; All

"The catholic church is not going to bless what it knows is sin. If your lifestyle is sinful by the church's standards you can go and sin no more or find a church that doesn't think it's sin.

Don't expect the Vatican to validate what you do as right because you want to feel better."

Total Truth!!!!"Knitting A Conundrum"Thank you


26 posted on 04/20/2005 8:50:49 AM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: timtoews5292004; Admin Moderator

I would like to see this pic. pulled.

Was this necessary?


27 posted on 04/20/2005 8:51:26 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Liberalism is bad news for modern man.)
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To: SkyPilot

Why post pictures of these men kissing. Don't do that. Its revolting.


28 posted on 04/20/2005 8:52:02 AM PDT by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: timtoews5292004
Yes, I think that picture is necessary. Google "gay catholic" and you will 100 more just like it.

Organizations like this one also have hundreds of active priests that endorse them. Perhaps the new Pope should defrock every one of them. It won't happen, but it would be good start.

29 posted on 04/20/2005 8:52:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: rockabyebaby

One of my friends referred to him as "Robopope." I love it.


30 posted on 04/20/2005 8:52:44 AM PDT by Terabitten (I have a duty as an AMERICAN, not a Republican. We can never put Party above Nation.)
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To: SkyPilot
"This is another example of how the hierarchy is out of touch with Catholics in the pews,"

No, this is another example of how the Catholics in the pews have wandered from the word of God.

31 posted on 04/20/2005 8:53:03 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SkyPilot

First of all GOOD! / Why do I need to know what these people do with their genitals in the privacy of their own homes? Why do they insist on telling me, teaching my children their sexual techniques and forcing me to say or think it is ok. Biblike it is clear, it is not ok.


32 posted on 04/20/2005 8:53:24 AM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: Owl_Eagle
"Talketh to the hand, freakazoids" sayeth Pope Benny.

33 posted on 04/20/2005 8:54:03 AM PDT by TheBigB (Proudly annoying stupid people since 1970!)
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To: SkyPilot
"Catholic Church and betrayal of one of the most fundamental teachings of Jesus Christ as the loving Good .."

Not quite. Big difference between the sin and the sinner. Jesus did not want the woman caught in adultery stoned. He forgave her and told her to sin no more. He did not say sin was no more.

34 posted on 04/20/2005 8:54:04 AM PDT by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: SkyPilot
"This is another example of how the hierarchy is out of touch with Catholics in the pews,"

And this is supposed to mean exactly what?

This is what I don't get about these liberal "Catholics": It's a free country. If you wanna be Catholic, good. If you don't, also good.

Who wants to be a bad Catholic? Makes no sense.

35 posted on 04/20/2005 8:54:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: SkyPilot

how about replacing The first picture with the one you just posted. It is more relevant to the article, as it is a group that supports homosexual catholics.


36 posted on 04/20/2005 8:54:18 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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To: SkyPilot

nice pic of those "vaginophobics"


37 posted on 04/20/2005 8:54:37 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: SkyPilot

"...Feminist, Homosexual Groups Turn Thumbs Down on New Pope..."

I turn thumbs down on Feminist, Homosexual Groups.


38 posted on 04/20/2005 8:54:49 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (AN ACTIVIST JUDICIARY IS A CULT!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: SkyPilot

Told a couple friends that Arinze and Ratzinger were my faves, because they would, IMHO, piss off the most people on the 'other side'.

Feminists and Gay Rights folks are disappointed? Good. Euthanasia crowd? Them too? Good. The pro-abort 'catholics'? Apoplectic? Good.

Viva Benedict XVI!


39 posted on 04/20/2005 8:57:20 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne ("But iron, cold iron, shall be master of them all..." Kipling)
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To: ex-snook
Jesus did not want the woman caught in adultery stoned. He forgave her and told her to sin no more. He did not say sin was no more.

Exactly. I am also tired of liberals telling us that Christ did not "utter a single word about homosexuality." Christ told us:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Mathew 5:17

The bible was inspired by God Himself, and Christ is part of the Trinity. In both the Old and New Testaments, homosexuality is condemned (Leviticus, Romans, etc). People who claim that Jesus was not against this sin are blasphemers.

40 posted on 04/20/2005 8:57:47 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

I ranted to my husband last night (he's such a good listener!) about this.

The Word of God is. Period. The church has no obligation to rewrite the word of God to appease a sinful lifestyle. If those who sin don't like being told they sin, they are free to leave the Church. The Church has an OBLIGATION to remain steadfast.


41 posted on 04/20/2005 8:57:48 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: TheBigB
How do you say that in Latin?


42 posted on 04/20/2005 8:57:59 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel
Omnium no innabuttus.

Sump'n like 'at...

43 posted on 04/20/2005 8:59:21 AM PDT by TheBigB (Proudly annoying stupid people since 1970!)
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To: Jim Noble

My thoughts exactly! If they want women priests, why don't they just join the Episcopalian Church, or Lutheran or whatever? Why do they have to try to change my church to conform with their skewed views?


44 posted on 04/20/2005 9:00:36 AM PDT by adgirl
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To: timtoews5292004
My wife's boss is catholic and is NOT happy about this decision by the church.

And the reason is?

45 posted on 04/20/2005 9:00:59 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: SkyPilot
Feminist, Homosexual Groups Turn Thumbs Down on New Pope

Translated Headline:

Feminist, Homosexual Groups angry that Catholic Church is not embracing apostasy.

46 posted on 04/20/2005 9:01:29 AM PDT by Disambiguator (This tagline should only be taken under the advice of your doctor.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Only a lesbien pope would get a true "thumbs up" from both groups.

...or some other digit...maybe a vegetable?

47 posted on 04/20/2005 9:02:36 AM PDT by Lekker 1 ("There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be attainable"- Albert Einstein)
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To: SkyPilot

I think we may be expecting too much from this pope.

Somehow I do not see a major housecleaning in the USA's church. In fact I could just see a catholic priest giving communition to kerry in order to "send a message".

Mark my words, some of these homo-enabler catholics are going to do something to challenge the authority of the pope. It will be a public show in order to demonstrate the weakness of the new pope.

(after they finish saying he is 78 and will die soon, they are going to start saying he is old and senile.)


48 posted on 04/20/2005 9:03:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: little jeremiah

ping


49 posted on 04/20/2005 9:04:09 AM PDT by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: Right Brother

too conservative for his liking. too tied to orthodoxy.


50 posted on 04/20/2005 9:04:44 AM PDT by timtoews5292004
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