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More Republican Disarray In Senate
captainsquarters ^ | April 19, 2005 | Captain Ed

Posted on 04/20/2005 2:36:53 PM PDT by swilhelm73

As if the constant retreat on judicial nominations didn't demonstrate the lack of effective GOP leadership in the Senate clearly enough, today's embarassment at the Foreign Relations Committee certainly underscored the fecklessness of the Republicans in garnering effective support for the President's agenda and nominees. Today's victim left twisting in the wind was played by John Bolton, and the role of Brutus was filled by George Voinovich (R-OH):

The Senate Foreign Relations Committee delayed a scheduled vote Tuesday on President Bush's pick for U.S. ambassador to the United Nations when a Republican member balked at voting during a contentious hearing. Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, the committee's Republican chairman, had pushed for a vote on John Bolton's nomination Tuesday afternoon.

That plan was derailed after a member of the panel's Republican majority joined Democrats in seeking a delay so the committee could consider new allegations about Bolton's conduct. "I've heard enough today that I don't feel comfortable about voting for Mr. Bolton," said Sen. George Voinovich of Ohio.

Voinovich may have played Brutus in this little drama, but the author of the play is Bill Frist. How difficult can the Republicans make the confirmation process? Frist knew that Bolton would get heavily scrutinized, and this shows that either the GOP leadership failed to properly prepare even the committee members for the predictable attacks of the Democrats or did not inform the White House of the lack of will that would be shown Bolton by FRC Republicans.

Don't get me wrong. Bolton makes an excellent candidate for a sick and dysfunctional United Nations. Turtle Bay does not need another milquetoast diplomat uttering soothing, why-can't-we-just-get-along cliches and excusing the corruption and incompetence of the Annan regime. The UN badly needs immediate reform, and it will only get it if Western nations start sending no-nonsense, tough-minded and tough-mouthed representatives to the UN like John Bolton.

Frist should have ensured that the Republican FRC members knew this, and also knew the slime that Democrats would throw to resist Bolton's candidacy. That's part of the leadership's responsibilities, as well as preparing for waverers and keeping them in line. Frist managed to keep Chafee from flopping, but apparently no one checked in with Voinovich. He didn't check in with Chuck Hagel either, who told reporters that he might not vote for Bolton once he gets to the full Senate.

Ohio Republicans should send a message to Voinovich to get him back on board to approve Bolton's nomination. The rest of the party should ask themselves if this Senate majority has any hope of keeping the caucus in line, or if Frist plans on continuing to make Harry Reid look like a political genius.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; bolton; georgevoinovich; gop; voinovich

1 posted on 04/20/2005 2:36:55 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: prairiebreeze

You might have already seen this.


2 posted on 04/20/2005 2:42:09 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: swilhelm73

I trust that the Ohio Republicans will remember this dude when he comes up for election again?


3 posted on 04/20/2005 2:42:26 PM PDT by ANGGAPO
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To: swilhelm73

Frist is worthless. What a total lack of leadership. Could this idiot and the RINOs squander a majority any worse?


4 posted on 04/20/2005 2:55:43 PM PDT by SIDENET (Yankee Air Pirate)
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To: swilhelm73

More evidence that the majority party in the Senate is working very hard to become the minority party in the Senate. I for one am through with this bunch. Third party for me from now on.


5 posted on 04/20/2005 2:56:39 PM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: swilhelm73

If the parties' majorities in Congress were reversed, the MSM would be howling about the tyranny of the minority, the mandate for Democrats, etc. The liberals can't control this country through the democratic process, so they'll use the backdoor through the courts. The nomination process for judges is freedom's last stand.


6 posted on 04/20/2005 2:57:14 PM PDT by Spok
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To: swilhelm73
I will long remember Voinvich's traitorous behavior. In 5 years when he runs again I will move to Ohio to see this idiot doesn't get reelected.
7 posted on 04/20/2005 3:02:10 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Peach

Voinovich was just quoted on Brit's show as saying the "holy Spirit" moved him to vote against Bolton..gawd..I really hate these people..


8 posted on 04/20/2005 3:04:44 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: FreedomSurge

McCain just said that Bolton deserves an up-or-down vote...Hello..banging my head on the wall here..the same McCain who just said he wouldn't vote for the nuclear option..


9 posted on 04/20/2005 3:06:37 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: ANGGAPO

Better yet, they could send a strong message by targeting Dewine's chances for re-election in '06.


10 posted on 04/20/2005 3:10:30 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: ken5050

Are you kidding?

If he actually said that I would recommend this man double check just what spirit was whispering in his ear.


11 posted on 04/20/2005 3:11:28 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: ken5050
Google "voinovich" "holy spirit"

He uses that in speeches from time to time.

12 posted on 04/20/2005 3:12:17 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ANGGAPO
I trust that the Ohio Republicans will remember this dude when he comes up for election again?

No need to wait till the election -- write or call him today.

I'm from Indiana and just sent a note to my senator, Richard Lugar, about his part in this mess.

13 posted on 04/20/2005 3:12:54 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Soul Seeker
I heard the report too.

Voinovich, "The Holy Spirit moved me to withhold my vote."

14 posted on 04/20/2005 3:12:56 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Soul Seeker; Cboldt

Direct quote from Carl Cameron..


15 posted on 04/20/2005 3:13:22 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: Bar-Face
I for one am through with this bunch. Third party for me from now on.

There's a saying in the military that "there's no such thing as bad troops -- only bad officers." I think it also applies in this case.

Our Republican senators are an okay group, on balance -- but only with some better leadership who can knock heads and inspire some fear or respect.

16 posted on 04/20/2005 3:16:05 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: ken5050
Google "voinovich" "holy spirit"

"Mr. President, I want you to know that everyone in this room is praying for you, and we ask the Holy Spirit to help you in your decision-making," Voinovich said.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/08/01/loc_ohbush01.html

I do not think it is going to be easy, but I think we can do that. I ask my colleagues to join in the constructive work of this body. Let us make it happen. I pray that the Holy Spirit inspires us to do it, for ourselves, for our children, our grandchildren and, yes, the world.
I yield the floor.

http://voinovich.senate.gov/floorstmnts/statement-020305.htm

In a July 12 phone call initiated by the National Coalition and including select friends of the organization, Ohio Senator George Voinovich underscored the need for the work of the Holy Spirit among senators and urged us to pray for him and for others. ...

http://www.nationalcoalition.org/media/ebrief/040713.html

Who knows. He may be sincere in that he prayerfully considered the angst of the DEM participants, and decided more dirt throwing and rebuttal was needed.

Voinovich was against Bush's tax cut, along with a few other GOP senators (Snowe, for sure). At any rate, this is just a setback, not a defeat. Not a defeat yet. But given the degree of acrimony, I would expect that the DEMs will use cloture rules against confirming Bolton, once the nomination reaches the floor of the Senate.

17 posted on 04/20/2005 3:22:30 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ken5050; Cboldt

What happened to separation of Church and state? Are the Dems screaming yet about this comment? [sarcasm]

Unbelievable. He's trying to pin his betrayal on the Holy Spirit? The man is a fool.


18 posted on 04/20/2005 3:23:11 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Soul Seeker

At this point, I try to tune out the GOP leadership as much as possible. I've never seen a group given so much yet do so little.


19 posted on 04/20/2005 3:25:02 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: ken5050
McCain believes if he stays strong on some Conservative issues then he will get a free pass on the constitutional option.

He is very mistaken.

20 posted on 04/20/2005 3:26:38 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Cboldt
I wrote elsewhere that this may yet blow up on the Dems..Bolton's reputation is being sullied..he will want to defend himself....in open committee..to take on these accusers and the Dem..My fanatsy moment:

Biden: " Mr. Bolton, can you please tell the committee if there is any merit to these charges that your temperment is lacking?

Bolton: "Senator, it all depends on what the meaning of is, is.."

21 posted on 04/20/2005 3:27:43 PM PDT by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL)
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To: ken5050

What???? You aren't kidding, are you? OMG

Our cable is out so I thank you for the report.


22 posted on 04/20/2005 3:35:38 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever killed or captured.)
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To: SIDENET

Seriously, these guy's could screw up a wet dream.


23 posted on 04/20/2005 4:07:52 PM PDT by MahaMarty (This'll probably get me suspended...AGAIN!)
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To: swilhelm73

I'm beginning to wonder if the Republicans even deserve
majority status. I've seen Frist castigated and Voinovich
as well. But having observed the whole travesty on C-Span,
I also saw Chuck "I'm a maverick" Hagel and Lincoln Chafee
getting impatient to be the next to jump ship. It's obvious
that Bolton is likely to be rejected because of a combination of innuendo and the roll-over Republicans. My
feeling is that Bush should stop wasting his time on
a Social Security problem that's 30 years into the future
and deal with IMMEDIATE problems such as Bolton and the
confirmation of his judicial nominees. He can write his
memoirs in retirement at Crawford but meanwhile he should
stop fretting about his legacy and start saving what's
left of OUR party!


24 posted on 04/20/2005 7:22:16 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: T.L.Sink

Most of us try to spend our money most efficient manner. If I want to buy a screen door at Lowe’s but look across the street and see the exact screen door for sale at half price by Home Depot – I walk across the street. We got a message of being cheated today from the Senate Foreign Relation’s Committee. The Republican majority allowed themselves to be rolled by the Democratic minority charge led by Diane Boxer, John Kerry and Joseph Biden.



We are finally getting some conservative nominee’s out of the White House and the Republicans in the US Senate’s “good ole boy’s club” are allowing the minority Democratic party Senators to mug the nominees when they go to Capitol Hill for confirmation. I don’t know how you have been spending your political dollars but after the disgraceful showing this afternoon in the Senate that followed the namby-pamby actions of Arlen Specter and the Judicial Committee, I urge you to slam your checkbook closed until we see if our conservatives in the Senate have the courage to be there. If they do not want to be conservatives, all they have to do is speak up. We’ll find a conservative who can tear their liberal asses off in 2006.



I will no longer support any Republican candidate financially or in written text until they show me who they are. We have no election hard against us so we do not have to do anything today. However, we do have an election next year in 2006 when all of the Congressmen in the House of Representatives and 1/3 of the Senate will be required to run for re-election. We’ll watch them carefully for the next year and decide if we are going to support them for office or just blow them off like they are doing to us.



I’m not writing from a Religious right or vast right wing conspiracy perspective. I am simply a political conservative who has contributed a great deal of money, time and talent to get a conservative Republican majority in both houses of Congress. From the gutless performance of Richard Lugar and his Foreign Relations Committee today it appears that I have wasted my time and might as well have thrown my money out of an open window.



If you like tough, hardnosed politicians just vote for the Democrats. They are outmaneuvering the conservatives on judicial nominations, Ambassador Bolton’s nomination to the UN and they are sitting on several other nominations to smaller regulatory commissions. We don’t have anyone on the conservative side to explain the meaning of MINORITY PARTY to the Democrats. The Democrats ACT like they are in charge and the lack of courage from the Republicans allows them to BE in charge.



If you have any money or effort invested in the Republican majority, turn round and ask someone to pull the knife out of your back that the Republicans on the Foreign Relations Committee used to stab you today. Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me. We are now on notice that the Republican majority in the US Senate is composed of gutless politicians who are only there for the free hospital care. They are not representing those of us who put them there.


25 posted on 04/21/2005 12:15:01 AM PDT by Vetvoice
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To: Vetvoice

I completely agree. It is becoming more obvious by the
hour that Bolton will be sacrificed not by Democrats
but by Republicans who want to "distinguish" themselves
from the administration so they can pursue their own
presidential ambitions (Hagel) or their reputations as
"independents" (Voinovich, Chaffey). The same holds true
for those who intend to support the unconstitutional
filibuster of judicial nominees. I, too, will give no
financial support to those who are not clearly conservative. I think at this point we need a strong,
viable third party candidate. I know why this, to many,
is not an attractive option but I can explain why it is
VERY beneficial in the long run -- if you'd like me to.


26 posted on 04/21/2005 4:42:35 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: ANGGAPO

In five years and seven months' time?

He voted to acquit IMPOTUS five years and nine months before his next election, which was last November.


27 posted on 04/21/2005 4:45:05 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: ANGGAPO
I trust that the Ohio Republicans will remember this dude when he comes up for election again?

The Ohio Republican Party in Columbus was dealing with similar reactions, but party spokesman Jason Mauk said the state party is standing by its man.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1388460/posts


28 posted on 04/21/2005 4:47:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: T.L.Sink

First, we MUST kill off one of the present major parties. We have a better shot at pulling down the Democrats than the Republicans. The Republicans have too much money to take down.


29 posted on 04/21/2005 4:55:29 PM PDT by Vetvoice
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