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Military's use on the border expands
Sierra Vista Herald ^ | 21 April 2005 | Bill Hess

Posted on 04/22/2005 5:25:00 AM PDT by Spiff

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Just like the Minuteman Project volunteers, the military will not detain illegals but will report them to the proper law enforcement agency. Just their visible and known presence on the border will deter crossing invaders just like the Minuteman Project. The invaders down there don't know how many soldiers we'll have down there, where they are patrolling, or what they'll do to them once they're seen. This is exactly what the Minuteman Project called for but to make it permanent and to span the entire border.

Those who say that it can't be done, that U.S. troops can't be used for this purpose, have just been proven wrong. In fact, their commanders are eager to get them down here as it provides excellent training for them before they deploy to somewhere like Iraq. Fort Bliss, TX and Fort Huachuca, AZ should become the hubs for this real-world, border watching training opportunity.

The Minuteman Project has proven that a presence serves as a deterrant. JTF-N's new, expanded mission proves that U.S. troops CAN be put on the border to help out. This is all good news. I'm sure that the FROBLs are deeply saddened. Between this and the news that an Iraqi War veteran isn't going to have to rot in prison for upholding the law, we're going to have to put them on suicide watch.

1 posted on 04/22/2005 5:25:00 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff; HiJinx

Let there be no more bitching at me, about how we're not using troops on the border.

We've been doing it since 2002, with the Army National Guard, in several rotations with DHS and in conjunction with JRTC.

But then again, according to most FReepers, the National Guard aren't really soldiers, but "imitation soldier boys", now aren't we?


2 posted on 04/22/2005 5:38:58 AM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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Good deal here. Only thing wrong is that the Strykers had much trouble negotiating the difficult border terrain.
3 posted on 04/22/2005 6:16:44 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Old Sarge

"But then again, according to most FReepers, the National Guard aren't really soldiers, but "imitation soldier boys", now aren't we?"
How did you arrive at that conclusion? It's an offensive opinion but no more offensive than your whining.


4 posted on 04/22/2005 7:15:57 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn

Not me - they.

It's been posted to me, emailed to me, FReepmailed to me.

I'm sorry you're so easily offended.


5 posted on 04/22/2005 7:18:34 AM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: Old Sarge
But then again, according to most FReepers, the National Guard aren't really soldiers, but "imitation soldier boys", now aren't we?

I haven't seen that around here. I've seen a lot of well deserved respect given to those who wear the uniform, regardless of capacity. The guard and Reserve proved themselves very effectively over the past few years, with numerous deployments and combat operations. I have no problem with the Guard and Reserve, even though I poked fun at them while I was active duty.

I salute their efforts, weekend warriors, no more.

As far as the article goes, I hope this is a positive new trend, all this talk about the borders and illegal immigration, really has me excited. Could we be own the dawn of a newer, safer America?

Time will tell, I suppose.

11B3P

~Corey

6 posted on 04/22/2005 7:22:02 AM PDT by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Old Sarge
It's been posted to me, emailed to me, FReepmailed to me.

Sorry to hear that.

7 posted on 04/22/2005 7:23:32 AM PDT by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: corlorde

It's happened in past threads. Many 'Nam era folks who are stuck in the 70's about the Guard/Reserve being a hideout from active duty.

These folks totally ignore the force mix of today. Guard formations, like mine, are right next to our Big Army brothers. Thirty-nine days a year is gone forever.

There's one Guard unit in PA that's being converted into a Stryker BCT - they'll be looking for training ops, just liek this, as soon as they field their equipment set.

Thanks, guy.

96B/96D/96R/13F

~Sarge


8 posted on 04/22/2005 7:27:37 AM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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It's about time we started leting folks know about the dual-purpose training on the border. As Old Sarge said, this has been going on since 2002.

In fact, though, I have a co-worker who was doing this in the late 80s...

9 posted on 04/22/2005 8:26:51 AM PDT by HiJinx (My Momma tol' me that if you gotta sneak, you're wrong...and you know it.)
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To: HiJinx; backhoe

OUTSTANDING! FReegards....


10 posted on 04/22/2005 8:33:01 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: Spiff

great news Spiff. and such Common Sense.
although i think part of the "training" should be to let the troops detain until the feds got there.... but that is prolly going too far on the "common sense" for gvt.



>>> I'm sure that the FROBLs are deeply saddened. Between this and the news that an Iraqi War veteran isn't going to have to rot in prison for upholding the law, we're going to have to put them on suicide watch.<<<

hehehe


11 posted on 04/22/2005 8:36:56 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: Spiff

Gee, if 'they' could be so wrong about how the US will never put the military on the border, maybe they're wrong about how impossible it would be to 'round 'em all up & deport em'?


12 posted on 04/22/2005 8:42:15 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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If the laws against employers hiring illegals were inforced and the penalties levied to the maximum the illegals would deport themselves.


13 posted on 04/22/2005 9:10:30 AM PDT by dalereed
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Agree completely. But I'd bet we could 'deport em all' (or most) without too much inconvenience to the citizenry, too, if we wanted.


14 posted on 04/22/2005 10:06:13 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


15 posted on 04/22/2005 11:59:56 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Spiff; SwinneySwitch; PistolPaknMama; Toonces

Bump!


16 posted on 04/22/2005 12:07:54 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Let the Constitution do the talkin')
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To: Spiff

I am finally off to Arizona to join the last days of the Minuteman Project AKA Civil Homeland Defense team!
Adios!!


17 posted on 04/22/2005 12:48:05 PM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: Old Sarge
according to most FReepers, the National Guard aren't really soldiers, but "imitation soldier boys"

The guard and reserve units I served with in the 80's had a substantial number of Vietnam vets. I bet they would not have taken kindly to being called "imitation soldier boys."

18 posted on 04/22/2005 12:51:47 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Spiff

Spiff, I really wish the garbage that the illegals are leaving in their wake could be catipulted over the border "fence" back into Mexico where it belongs. It would still have to be bagged up, but the bags should be rocketed over the border.


19 posted on 04/22/2005 1:01:08 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Spiff

Alaskan brigade trains by patrolling NM desert

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1355503/posts


20 posted on 04/22/2005 2:05:42 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Remember, this is only a temporary exile!)
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