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Jane Fonda's Apology: So Far I'm Sorry I Got Caught - (says it all!)
THE RANT.US ^ | APRIL 17, 2005 | NOEL S. WILLIAMS

Posted on 04/22/2005 7:10:56 PM PDT by CHARLITE

It’s no coincidence that Jane Fonda’s new book, My Life So Far, precedes the release of her new movie Monster-in-Law. That’s just good old-fashioned Hollywood promotion; however, something went wrong on the way to Larry King’s forum – she did not apologize for her activities in Vietnam. Yes, her publicity blitz expresses regrets, but there is no heartfelt apology. When the avuncular interviewer actually asked a challenging question about her nefarious goings on it was clear Jane hadn’t rehearsed her lines – here’s her sincere response: “I’m sorry I was photographed sitting on an anti-aircraft gun.” Wow, her arrogance and failure to comprehend, over thirty years later, her reprehensible acts provoked me into adding to the already voluminous criticisms of her. I’d rather not, frankly, but it is she who has flung herself upon our sensibilities. I really don’t care for her new book and would rather a weekend with my “Monster-In-Laws” than to read that psychobabble about how she twisted herself into a pretzel to satisfy the men in her life. Nevertheless, that’s just me, and if her new book and movie do well then congratulations to her. However, having again thrust herself into the public spotlight by desperately seeking our approval she must realize that her activist past opens her up to a review that goes beyond her artistic endeavors.


So, what does Hanoi Jane have to apologize for? Well, there is much more than the enemy gun fiasco. There’s her condemnation of our soldiers; she substituted for “Hanoi Hannah” on radio Hanoi; and, compared President Nixon to Hitler. Now, we have her on newly discovered tapes accusing our troops of genocide. Anti-G.I. Jane: does your newly crafted Christian persona have the heart to apologize for these things? I have no doubt, neither would I presume, about the sincerity of your faith, so it must be the psychics you visit whose counsel outweighs the obvious Christian thing to do – apologize wholeheartedly.

Let’s just focus on the one thing anti-G.I. Jane can’t deny because it was photographed and archived: her frolicsome cavorting with the enemy – if that’s not aiding and abetting then nothing is. She virtually embraced an anti-aircraft gun that may well have shot down some of our heroic pilots. Jane, you fraternized with the enemy in their back yard; you gave them propaganda and emboldened them. I’m no lawyer, but having just re-read our great Constitution I’m convinced you committed treason.

Don’t worry; you’ll not be tried. We don’t want to reopen old wounds but just want you to help heal some with a sincere apology. Unfortunately, well into your “third act,” as you put it, it appears all you can do is regret having been caught. Your strained verbal gymnastics to express regret instead of sorrow shows that the men in your life must have been successful in twisting you into a pretzel. Your efforts are more contorted than the proverbial bank robber who apologized for being caught.

I don’t care about the misguided actors who admire Fidel Castro, or the group who having already acquired their wealth suddenly find it chic to espouse the virtues of socialism. However, when Hanoi Jane practically throws herself at our mercy then our response must go beyond her artistic talents and consider her radical activism. Hopefully, some day our critique of her “militant act” will be able to acknowledge her sincere apology and forgive her for conspiring with the enemy. Get your lines right, Jane, and remember all the scenes, not just the infamous gun embrace.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 04/22/2005 7:10:58 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Jane Fonda Sucks!


2 posted on 04/22/2005 7:12:54 PM PDT by rocksblues (First there was Terri, whose next? You, me, your child, your wife?)
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To: rocksblues

Jane...you ignorant slut...


3 posted on 04/22/2005 7:15:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (" I have a great team that is going to beat George W. Bush" John Kerry -2004)
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To: rocksblues; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; mugs99; jan in Colorado; Beth528; Great Prophet Zarquon; ...

4 posted on 04/22/2005 7:16:26 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: CHARLITE

I wish she would immigrate to Syria or China. Hanoi Jane does not belong to America.


5 posted on 04/22/2005 7:16:52 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: CHARLITE
She must be the reason that the Atlanta Braves won the National League east for ever and only won the World Series once.

The Tomahawk Chop with Ted and Jane was particularly disgusting to watch!

6 posted on 04/22/2005 7:26:37 PM PDT by rocksblues (First there was Terri, whose next? You, me, your child, your wife?)
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To: CHARLITE
This account doesn't begin to describe jane fonda's treacherous actions against our soldier who were prisoners of her 'hosts' on that trip!

In desperation a few of our soldiers risked secretly passing messages to fonda hoping this "fellow American" would help them.... fonda took these messages and promptly handed them over to the soldier's captors!

No, I do not forgive jane fonda. I want her arrested and tried as the traitor she is!

7 posted on 04/22/2005 7:29:53 PM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: Wiz
"....immigrate to Syria or China."

Better send her to live in her communist paradise right there in N. Vietnam, where she had such a ball 35 years ago. She could put that rice-picking hat back on and start pulling up rice shoots for the rest of her days, since she loved it so much.

Who could ever forget that speech that she gave on some liberal campus (Michigan?) when she said, "If you knew what Communism IS you would get down on your knees and pray that we will become Communist!"

I suggest that we insist that she get down on her knees in rice paddies in the country of her original choice....and stay there!

8 posted on 04/22/2005 7:30:45 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: CHARLITE
Jane "I know you think I'm a bitch; but won't you give me your money for my book so that you can try to understand me?" Fonda

She'll always be the the scum-sucking, traitorous hanoi jane to me.

At least we know that there is one excellent use for tobacco juice!

9 posted on 04/22/2005 7:35:01 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: CHARLITE
After doing some research, I posted this previously on a couple of the numerous Jane Fonda/Spitter threads. I post it again here.

First is a cut and paste from a transcript of the Barbara Walter's interview.

Barbara Walters: "There are still people who . . . I guess feel you have never apologized. Would you like to just say something to them now?"

Jane Fonda:"Well . . . it's not . . . I would like to say something not just to . . . the Vietnam veterans . . . in New England . . . but . . . to . . . to men who were in Vietnam who . . . who I hurt . . . or who's pain I caused to . . . deepen because of things I said . . . or did . . . I . . . I feel that I owe them an apology . . . my intentions were never to hurt them . . . or to make their situation worse, it was . . . it was the contrary . . . I was trying to help end the war . . . but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I . . . and I am very sorry . . . that I hurt them . . . and I want to apologize to them and to their families . . . ."

She said something similiar on an A&E Biography show I saw this month but I couldn't find a transcript of that. Sorry.

And this from Oprah Winfrey's "O" Magazine:

Jane Fonda: "I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft carrier, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless."

Without doubt she "gave aid and comfort to the enemy" and was a traitor to her country. An apology does not erase that as a fact. It should however IMO, alter our reaction to it.

A person who nurtures hate in their heart hurts themselves far more than the one they hate.

10 posted on 04/22/2005 7:38:17 PM PDT by Texan
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To: Texan
"An apology does not erase that as a fact. It should however IMO, alter our reaction to it."

You have a point. However, for those of us who lived through that nightmare, and who vividly remember the film footage of this woman cavorting with our enemies, clapping her hands gleefully like a child while looking around at the stupid N. Vietnamese soldiers who were lavishing attention on her........those memories are as fresh for us as though they were current.

As the old saying goes, "I can forgive, but I can never forget." Memories of great pain are like mental tattoos.

11 posted on 04/22/2005 7:45:01 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: Zacs Mom
Claim: Jane Fonda betrayed U.S. POWs during the Viet Nam War.

Status: Multiple:

During a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda propagandized on behalf of the North Vietnamese government, declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and condemned U.S. soldiers as "war criminals" and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured: True.

Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her: False.

You can read the details and lots more at http://www.snopes.com (The Urban Legends fact checking website)

12 posted on 04/22/2005 7:47:40 PM PDT by Texan
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To: Texan
What Fonda did was unforgivable. Can you imagine what would have happened to Marilyn Monroe if she had went to North Korea in 1953, praised Mao, broadcast to the American troops telling them to desert, and said the American POW in Korean were being treated well?

She would have been run of the country, if not indicted and sent to jail.

Fonda on the other hand has become a millionaire and paid no price for her treason.
13 posted on 04/22/2005 8:04:09 PM PDT by rcocean
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To: CHARLITE
I'm no apologist for Ms. Fonda. And I certainly don't make light of the opinions and feeling of those she hurt. Just trying to inject some accuracy.

Frankly, after hearing and reading about her antiwar activities, her multiple marriages, her "threesomes", etc, I think she's lead a pretty miserable life so far. Hopefully, her conversion to Christianity is sincere (and it just may be since she was so upset when the minister of the Church she was attending when he went public that she was taking Bible classes).

I agree she could (and should) do a lot more to try to make amends to our vets.

14 posted on 04/22/2005 8:07:13 PM PDT by Texan
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To: rcocean
Marilyn Monroe would have been as detested as Jane Fonda is/was.

I agree that Jane Fonda should have been charged with treason. There is no doubt that she gave "aid and comfort to the enemy". But that wasn't going to happen given the political climate in the country at the time.

And as for being "unforgiveable".....I'm gonna sound really "preachy" here but please bear with me:

How can we expect the Supreme Judge to forgive us of OUR sins "forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us" if we are unwilling to forgive others.

If you're not a Christian then I guess that doesn't apply.

15 posted on 04/22/2005 8:18:06 PM PDT by Texan
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To: CHARLITE

16 posted on 04/22/2005 8:23:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Texan
"Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her:

There is controversy about the snopes refutation of this "legend." I watched Colonel David Hunt's interview on O'Reilly last night (Thursday). He spent well over half of his alloted time on the air, repeating that one story. He said it over and over again.....that the "one act" which none of his comrades can ever forgive, is that note passing incident. Now, I'd be inclined to take Colonel Hunt's word for the "truth of the matter," but in all honesty, I wasn't right there, on the ground, when the incident is supposed to have occurred.

17 posted on 04/22/2005 8:23:37 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: rocksblues
In '96 at the last game of the Series, I thought I heard the infamous tomahawk chant coming fro "bleacher Creature" country- the right field bleachers where I was seated. Turns out the boys put together a New York version, with the lyrics "F*** the braves" chanted while the chop was done with the right hand, middle digit extended. Jane and Ted, sitting near the visiting dugout, didn't join in.
18 posted on 04/22/2005 8:46:08 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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Jane Fonda:"Well . . . it's not . . . I would like to say something not just to . . . the Vietnam veterans . . . in New England . . . but . . . to . . . to men who were in Vietnam who . . . who I hurt . . . or who's pain I caused to . . . deepen because of things I said . . . or did . . . I . . . I feel that I owe them an apology . . . my intentions were never to hurt them . . . or to make their situation worse, it was . . . it was the contrary . . . I was trying to help end the war . . . but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I . . . and I am very sorry . . . that I hurt them . . . and I want to apologize to them and to their families . . . ."

Die lady. Just...die already. Nobody loves you; nobody likes you. Nobody ever did. It's a shame it was your father that went first when it could've been you.

19 posted on 04/22/2005 8:50:47 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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To: CHARLITE
I wasn't there either so who really knows.

The POW (Ret. Col. Larry Carrigan) who the story was attributed to disavows it. I would think there would be other POW's (many in fact) who could verify it if it were indeed true.

20 posted on 04/22/2005 8:55:30 PM PDT by Texan
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