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Republican majority as victims
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 21 April 2005 | RUBEN NAVARRETTE JR.

Posted on 04/22/2005 7:37:33 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

As if it needed another one, America has developed a new class of victims. They're called Republicans.

It used to be that the Republican Party was where you went when you were tired of the victim mentality peddled by liberals. Now it's where you go when you feel victimized by liberals.

To listen to the leaders of the GOP, their tormentors come in threes: the liberal media, left-leaning academics and what House Majority Leader Tom DeLay calls an "arrogant, out-of-control, unaccountable judiciary."

When it comes to playing the victim, DeLay deserves an Academy Award. Speaking to religious conservatives during the Terri Schiavo ordeal, DeLay tried to relate the poor woman's ordeal to his own alleged ethical indiscretions and said that his political opponents were out to get him. Later, when the story broke that DeLay's wife and daughter had pocketed more than a half-million dollars by working for his political action committee, he could have pointed out that this is common practice in Washington. Instead, DeLay whined that his detractors in the media were trying to "embarrass" him.

It's a line he picked up again this week when he blamed his troubles on the "legion of Democrat-friendly press."

But it's the business about the judges that really showcased DeLay's victim mentality. The majority leader has since apologized for the "inartful way" in which he expressed his frustration over the reluctance of the federal judiciary to intervene in Schiavo's case and order the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube to be restored.

Inartful? More like insane. DeLay went ballistic over the Schiavo case, vowing: "The time will come when the men responsible for this will answer for their behavior."

That kind of talk was creepy enough to scare off some of DeLay's fellow Republicans. Vice President Dick Cheney vouched for the importance of an independent judiciary, and Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist distanced himself from DeLay's judicial jihad. Ditto for Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas and Anthony Kennedy – both appointed by Republicans. The justices told a congressional hearing that criticism comes with the territory and that the independence of the judiciary is worth preserving.

Now it is Frist who is toying with the victim rhetoric. He plans to join Christian conservatives in a national telecast on Sunday intended to draw attention to what Republicans claim is an abuse of the filibuster rule by Senate Democrats. The way the religious right sees it, Democrats are victimizing "people of faith" when they oppose some of President Bush's judicial nominees. Frist and prominent religious leaders are planning to gather in Kentucky for a telecast to be distributed on the Internet and to churches around the country.

And it's not just conservatives in Congress who are whining. On a recent installment of "Fox News Sunday," conservative commentator William Kristol described efforts to filibuster judges as an attempt by Democrats to maintain control over the judiciary. After moderator Chris Wallace pointed out that most federal judges were appointed by Republican presidents, Kristol responded that those Republican presidents had too often deferred to the recommendations of the American Bar Association, which Kristol considers a left-leaning organization. So now the problem is the ABA?

It's not that Kristol doesn't have a point about where the group's political sympathies lie. And it's not that I'm unsympathetic to Republican concerns about how Democrats have treated some judicial nominees.

The president has a right to nominate whomever he wants to the bench, and it's an outrage that Democrats have – since Bush took office – denied 10 of his more than 200 nominees the courtesy of a vote. For that, Democrats should pay a political price in future elections, and they may well.

But that doesn't mean Republicans should resort to the so-called "nuclear option" of changing Senate rules to make it easier for them to break through judicial filibusters. If Republicans do that, they'll look desperate and out of arguments – or pretty much how Democrats look whenever they resort to filibusters in the first place.

Republicans should avoid emulating their opponents. This world-is-out-to-get-me routine is unappealing, and it's getting tiresome. Whenever Republicans hit a snag in pursuing their agenda, some of them immediately look for someone to blame. They should look in the mirror and ask what they could do differently. Instead, they're still acting as if they are powerless and in the minority.

Well, if this keeps up that may become the reality.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bilgewater; delay; iluvclownposseorg; propagandawingofdnc; republicans

Lando

1 posted on 04/22/2005 7:37:33 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln
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To: Lando Lincoln
Republicans should avoid emulating their opponents.

Nuff Said!

2 posted on 04/22/2005 7:41:03 PM PDT by rocksblues (First there was Terri, whose next? You, me, your child, your wife?)
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To: Lando Lincoln
But that doesn't mean Republicans should resort to the so-called "nuclear option" of changing Senate rules to make it easier for them to break through judicial filibusters. If Republicans do that, they'll look desperate and out of arguments

No just out of votes, given the Dem's willingness to use filibusters frequently to stop nominees. This is all about getting Bush nominees for SCOTUS through. This is about power, not argument. The writer misses the point.

3 posted on 04/22/2005 7:50:46 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Lando Lincoln

I used to like Ruben. Seems he's turning into a hack. Delay and the Republicans are merely pointing out how OUTRAGEOUS the courts--and their supporters, the Democrats--are. It's that simple.


4 posted on 04/22/2005 7:54:09 PM PDT by guitarist
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To: guitarist; Torie
"I used to like Ruben. Seems he's turning into a hack. Delay and the Republicans are merely pointing out how OUTRAGEOUS the courts--and their supporters, the Democrats--are. It's that simple."

Exactly. Ruben has become ZOTABLE! ZOT to him!

I also like Torie's brief, concise comment: "The writer misses the point."

.......and that's "the point." Well said, guitarist and Torie!

Thanks for your comments!

Char :)

5 posted on 04/22/2005 8:16:34 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I lost my car keys............so now I have to walk everywhere.......)
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To: rocksblues

That's fine - but you missed the point he made that we look like whiners just because we want to change a senate rule.

He's full of it - and I just sent him an email and told him. It's about the Constitution - the senate rule overrides the Constitution .. that's why we're changing it back.


6 posted on 04/22/2005 8:26:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: tallulah
Didn't Republicans filibuster Clinton's nominees as well -

No. Do your homework, Newbie.

8 posted on 04/22/2005 9:23:50 PM PDT by Just A Nobody
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To: tallulah; tiamat; MeekOneGOP; Darksheare
Welcome to FR.

Didn't Republicans filibuster Clinton's nominees as well - Or does history get revised on this site? It seems that this article is suggesting that to filibuster is to express weakness, sooooo what does this say about the Republicans in the 90's??

Seriously, isn't it really all about absolute power, and assuring that there isn't?

11 posted on 04/22/2005 9:28:54 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: tallulah; tiamat; MeekOneGOP; Darksheare
Let me try that again: Didn't Republicans filibuster Clinton's nominees as well - Or does history get revised on this site? It seems that this article is suggesting that to filibuster is to express weakness, sooooo what does this say about the Republicans in the 90's??

Seriously, isn't it really all about absolute power, and assuring that there isn't?

12 posted on 04/22/2005 9:30:54 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: ptbarnum1984; MeekOneGOP

You're an interesting poster. Anti-Repubican, and pro-Hillary.


13 posted on 04/22/2005 9:33:35 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: stands2reason; tallulah
Bye, Tallulah.

"He/she/it's dead, Jim!"


15 posted on 04/23/2005 1:38:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: stands2reason
Hmmm. Worth watching.

16 posted on 04/23/2005 1:44:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: stands2reason

That one was sliding around another thread early this morning.

I think it's dead now.

Must be Spring.

Got trolls popping out all over like mushrooms!


17 posted on 04/23/2005 5:56:30 AM PDT by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: stands2reason

I know where they got their handle from.
Song by Tori Amos called "Tallulah" off of the "Boys for Pele" album.
I probably know them under a different handle from the old Tori Amos chat room.


18 posted on 04/23/2005 9:22:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (You too can own your very own Bad Idea by Darksheare! Inquire within!)
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To: stands2reason

"You're an interesting poster. Anti-Repubican, and pro-Hillary."

Am I missing something? I don't know anything about the poster you're responding to, but where do you get pro-Hillary from his comment? Or are you just insulting him or her?


19 posted on 04/23/2005 12:27:36 PM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: MeekOneGOP

What was their full comment? So many people get immediately banned on this site, and I am often left wondering why. I wish mods would leave non-profane controversial comments up, if only to satiate my curiosity as to why they were banned.


20 posted on 04/23/2005 12:30:07 PM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: RepublicMan4U
Am I missing something? I don't know anything about the poster you're responding to, but where do you get pro-Hillary from his comment? Or are you just insulting him or her?

You can tell a lot about a poster by reading their other comments, not just the ones on the current thread. To find what they've said on other threads, click on their screen name, when that page opens, click on in forum. Their past comments are there for all the world to see.

21 posted on 04/23/2005 12:47:11 PM PDT by Misty Memory (Why is it that most of the Wild Turkey's on FR look more like vultures?)
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To: stands2reason
You're an interesting poster. Anti-Repubican, and pro-Hillary.

You're right. This poser is a fraud.


22 posted on 04/23/2005 12:55:53 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Misty Memory

Oh. I guess you're right. The problem is, in other situations, sometimes when I'm looking through the archives, I'll see something interesting posted by someone, but when I click on their name, it says they've been banned or suspended. Since that's all I get, I don't know how to even get to their other forum posts to figure out why. I could care less why pro-Democrat trolls are banned, but I've occaionally seen good posts by individuals who seem like conservatives, but when I try to see what else they've posted, I just get a message saying they're banned. Is there any way to find out why a banned poster has been banned? Maybe I'm just nosey.


23 posted on 04/23/2005 1:01:22 PM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: RepublicMan4U

***What was their full comment? So many people get immediately banned on this site, and I am often left wondering why. I wish mods would leave non-profane controversial comments up, if only to satiate my curiosity as to why they were banned.***

Here it is:

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=1389497%2C7

Didn't Republicans filibuster Clinton's nominees as well - Or does history get revised on this site? It seems that this article is suggesting that to filibuster is to express weakness, sooooo what does this say about the Republicans in the 90's??

Seriously, isn't it really all about absolute power, and assuring that there isn't?


24 posted on 04/23/2005 1:24:10 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: rdb3
This poser is a fraud.

Fraud? That was a 100% genuine troll!

;-)

25 posted on 04/23/2005 1:35:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator

Guess I called it right from the giddy-up.


26 posted on 04/23/2005 3:02:49 PM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Darksheare

I admit I like a bit of Tori Amos.

(Don't tell anybody. :-))


27 posted on 04/23/2005 3:07:19 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: stands2reason

I won't tell.

First song I heard from her was "Space Dog", followed by "God".
Then I heard "Professional Widow".
*chuckle*


28 posted on 04/23/2005 3:09:40 PM PDT by Darksheare (You too can own your very own Bad Idea by Darksheare! Inquire within!)
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To: RepublicMan4U

I am a Troll Hunter.

I have the ability to see all of the posts that a poster posts in forum.

I can also see the posts that have been previously pulled. Now, that trick is a secret. :-)


29 posted on 04/23/2005 3:10:40 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: Lando Lincoln

Righteously opposing the state-sanctioned killing of Terri Schindler is "playing the victim"?

The pro-death crowd is the side that's gone to the Dems.


30 posted on 04/23/2005 3:12:06 PM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: RepublicMan4U

Most of the longtimers that you see on old posts have been banned because of flame wars. Some have opused (quit the forum) and asked to have their identity terminated.


31 posted on 04/23/2005 3:15:13 PM PDT by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: stands2reason

"I am a Troll Hunter."

So, what does it take kill a troll, stake through the heart like a vampire or bullet in the head like a zombie? Will garlic repell them? Are they afraid of crucifixes?

:-)


32 posted on 04/23/2005 3:58:49 PM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: RepublicMan4U
Is there any way to find out why a banned poster has been banned?

You can try going to the FR search on top of the main forum page, putting in the poster's screen name and choosing 'by poster' in the drop down box or doing a google seach using their advanced search link and putting in Freerepublic.com as the domain. You can also try asking one of the Mods via FR mail, but they may not tell you. They may decide you're trying to cause trouble and ban your account.

Most that I've seen banned over the years are trolls who come here to accuse conservatives/republicans of starving old people, poisoning the air and water and setting up internment camps for gays/lesbians/liberals. The ones who've been here a while and are banned have probably broken the rules more times and been given more chances than they were probably due (see MoJo/Hun, A+Bert, Eschoir). They disrupt FR in other ways (personal attacks, stalking, threats, etc). There have been very few bannings I disagreed with (Snow Bunny, Joe Montana).

33 posted on 04/23/2005 4:49:41 PM PDT by Misty Memory (Why is it that most of the Wild Turkey's on FR look more like vultures?)
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To: Misty Memory

Thank you for your explanation and Google tip. I'm not trying to be nosy or cause trouble. I know what curiosity did to the cat, and I'd like to stay here.


34 posted on 04/23/2005 5:05:22 PM PDT by RepublicMan4U
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To: RepublicMan4U
I'm not trying to be nosy or cause trouble. I know what curiosity did to the cat, and I'd like to stay here.

I've already checked out your posting history ;) I wouldn't have wasted my time if I thought you were a troll.

35 posted on 04/23/2005 5:15:30 PM PDT by Misty Memory (Why is it that most of the Wild Turkey's on FR look more like vultures?)
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To: RepublicMan4U

Pure logic, my friend.

And maybe the occasional SAM.

;-)


36 posted on 04/23/2005 5:38:32 PM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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