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To: ConservativeMind

When it comes to sex offenders, you are so frighteningly off course that I'm almost afraid to say anything to you. Your help in "prison ministry" immediately puts you in jeopardy.

A sex offender is also a pathological liar. His lies have been formulated before he commits a crime, and they are intricate and involved. A sex offender will tell you "it only happened once" (the one they are in prison for) and they will also tell you that they have "gone to guidance therapy" for it (they haven't because they "don't need it") and they will tell you that prison was a "good experience" for them, but not for the reasons you want to believe.

"Bad judgement" is believing these "people" are capable of "change." They aren't, because they don't want to change. There are no "appropriate ways" to deal with child molesters. Ever. They start when they are young, and they start WITH the young. They use coercion and authority and guilt to achieve their goal of the almighty orgasm, which controls their lives.

If you have girl children, you had better listen up and keep an eye on their every movement. If you have boys, you had better listen twice as hard. Do NOT excuse sex offenders! They are who they are because that is who and what they want to be.


21 posted on 04/22/2005 10:49:31 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I think. Therefore, I am overqualified.)
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To: Monkey Face

Amen! The worst ones to watch out for are the ones that caught religion. People should never fall for that lie. Child molesters are master manipulators and will use even the bible to fool people. I am not happy about suicide BUT parents have a right to know in order to protect their children.


24 posted on 04/22/2005 10:53:27 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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To: Monkey Face
You are not aware of what I think ought to be done instead.

I believe in torture penalties as practiced in Asia and other countries. I have no problems with castration of such people, either.

That said, there are responsibilities we must take upon ourselves by keeping an eye on those who have been known to have broken any and every law. For that matter, should we know about other things someone does that are unethical or immoral, I have no problem with shunning such people to encourage behavior modification.

When you say "His lies have been formulated before he commits a crime" I would only say that virtually every wrong has this at its heart.

I have known murders and con artists that are as pathological in lying as you say sex offenders are. I also know that some people (i.e.-an ex-president) never make it to jail despite the evidence. So liars are everywhere.

I'm not saying that I expect people to change from spending time in jail alone. I am saying that we have a responsibility to care for our families and to behave in a reasonable fashion with others, knowing that even the postman may be a potential murderer or rapist.

Let's fashion a punishment that metes out what we expect is appropriate from those who do wrong. And after such is done, let's live our lives remaining vigilant and respectful of any and everyone. Isn't this what allows us "liberty" in the first place?
28 posted on 04/22/2005 11:00:56 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Monkey Face

But there are some boys getting charged with with sex offenses that are 18 and their girlfriend is under 18. I know of one right now, the girl was a runaway at 15, the boy was ignorant and vulnerable trying to help, the 15 year old girl was a slut, and parents when they found their "precious" daughter, pressed charges. The 18 year old is being charged with a sex offense.

If he is convicted, he wiil stay labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life!!

Teach your 18 year old boys to stay far away from under 18 girls, and from my experience some of them are the predators!!!!


53 posted on 04/23/2005 8:00:27 AM PDT by thirst4truth
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To: Monkey Face

So you're saying that NOBODY EVER straightens themselves out? I find that a little hard to believe. And if it's the truth, why don't we just put them in a leper colony kind of place. Really, what is your solution?


89 posted on 04/23/2005 1:56:10 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Monkey Face

THANK YOU , THANK YOU , I see the "hand wringers" as total ENABLERS ,...as Bob Grant has said over and over , "they have served notice on society that they are not fit to live among us" ,you folks without kids , don't tell me to take chances where the odds are known to be slim to none, OK?


105 posted on 04/23/2005 2:47:42 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Monkey Face
Well said. Thank you for putting it so bluntly, this is not something you can hide your head in the sand over, the vulnerable parts are still out there.
190 posted on 01/12/2006 7:02:39 PM PST by mother22wife21 ( An alert citizen is a happy citizen -famishus)
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