Posted on 04/24/2005 9:27:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Amazing, isn't it? How evil deeds come back to haunt. The Clintons wanted to please Castro for political expediency. But their raid on Elian infuriated the Cuban Americans in Florida.
They lost Florida, and the presidency. We would have been saying "President Gore" if not for the Clinton's and "National Council of Churches" single minded determination to return that poor child to the tyranny of Castro and communism. You reap what you sow.
Wild. Elian gave us President Bush instead of President Gore.
Once the only surviving legal guardian, the father, stated he wanted his kid back, the Miami relatives were in the wrong legally ...though granted, they were not literally "snatchers".
Setting aside Whitewater, Chinagate, Filegate, Waco, the Kosovo "war", and countless other transgressions against the nation that elected him president twice, If Bill Clinton had never done anything else in his entire presidency to warrant my disdain and hatred then the cowardly kidnapping of the Gonzaeles boy from his home in the middle of the night would still earn him his spot as one of America's worst leaders.
Misusing American military might, stepping all over our legal system, spitting on the boys dead mother or simply imprisoning a boy in a Communist prison-island for the rest of his life...take your pick. That sad day in April of '00, BC and his little dictator sidekick Reno did them all.
A strong patriot like most of my fellow FReepers, I've never felt more ashamed of America then on that day, and it's ALL your fault Slick Willy.
Elian was born out of wedlock. Where do you get that the biological father was the legal guardian?
He sounds like a real beast doesn't he?
I get really tired of people like you who think it's okay to call every law enforcement officer names and express such hatred towards them.
The vast majority of law enforcement officers are good, decent people.
I have nothing against the Border Control or the Coast Guard (I support them as should all other Americans), but the Elian case really made this then Miami resident REALLY PISSED OFF, although more so at Butch Reno than the LEOs themselves.
Yes, as I posted before -- Clintoon's words on January 19, 2001 were:
"Elian cost us the election."
Yes he does, and prayers for those in Cuba who are struggling against Castro's tyranny.
I'm amazed and saddened, by the number of FReepers who still can't understand why the right thing was to let Elian stay here, and live in Freedom (as was the wish of his mother who died trying to get him here), rather than be returned to a Communist Hell hole to be a puppet for Castro.
I suspect these FReepers, for all they claim to be, really have no appreciation for what it means to live in Freedom, and take our country's blessings for granted.
I think there were a lot of anti-immigration FReepers and angry divorced dads in the send Elian home crowd.
Those were the ones I couldn't understand.
"I think there were a lot of anti-immigration FReepers and angry divorced dads in the send Elian home crowd."
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I suspect you are right.
Refer to post 6 for a picture of Elian with his new "Papa".
Sad, but what was the alternative?
"Too bad Dad! You live in a crappy dictatorship, so we're giving your kid away to other people" ?
But he was here. Here with family. And the family insisted that the father really wanted him here, but the government was manipulating it so that he never really had the opportunity to be truly free to express what he wanted.
Why couldn't the father come here for six months to live with his son to make his decision, instead of uprooting the child like that? I remember they wouldn't even let the father meet with the family and child alone. He supposedly "refused" to. Is that natural?
Besides, if I recall correctly, the Clintons disobeyed a court order to keep Elian here, so it really wasn't legal at all. Now he is being exploited in Cuba by an evil, evil man.
Adopt a child in America born out of wedlock and have the long, lost biological parent contest it. You'll find painful similarities in both.
And the legal basis for that would be...? The stay here until you like it here law?
This "logic" is absurd.
*His mother died in search of freedom for her son.
*The boy was born out of wedlock.
*Juan Gonzalez was not (never?) married to Elian's mom.
*Juan Gonzalez was living with another woman and had other children with her at that time.
*Elian does not live with Juan Gonzalez today.
Those are the facts. Now for some questions:
If Elian's mom had lived, and the father requested custody, should we have sent him back? If the same situation had occurred out of Nazi Germany with a Jewish child, should we have sent him back? How about out of North Korea today?
It baffles me how people can totally dismiss the courageous decision and efforts made by the boys mother. Her wishes should have been respected. Instead, she died in vain, thanks to The Clinton Admin's 'fear' of Castro. They conveniently used the 'family' excuse as a way to cover their tracks. Those who support these actions are naive at best, complicent at worst.
Unfortunately true, but it doesn't make it right.
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