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Little Havana Remembers Elian. Five years later, the family still is coping with raid's afterm
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 24, 2005 | MADELINE BARO DIAZ

Posted on 04/24/2005 9:27:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion

Elian's Revenge
61 posted on 04/25/2005 8:07:18 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: FairOpinion

Prayers for Little Elian bump! I'll never forget, it was wrong. Still I think the little guy is smart enough to see what an evil man Castro is despite the "happy juice." I am confident that he is just laying his time until Castro kicks the bucket and God judges him.


62 posted on 04/25/2005 8:07:50 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: Ken H; Xenalyte

Do you think a dismissal would be an easy thing to take for someone who has put in years and has a family and their retirement to consider? Someone who has their federal retirement to consider?

You people who have nothing to risk, sure talk a good line, but if you had the same things to risk as some of those agents did, you might not be so quick to quit or let yourself get fired.


63 posted on 04/25/2005 8:08:50 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: Nowhere Man

"Still I think the little guy is smart enough to see what an evil man Castro is despite the "happy juice." I am confident that he is just laying his time until Castro kicks the bucket and God judges him."


This is my hope and assessment as well. I hope it's soon.


64 posted on 04/25/2005 8:09:45 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: texasflower
There are always other jobs. I only have one conscience.
65 posted on 04/25/2005 8:11:42 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I am at Dr. Venture's lab to right that which is wrong and to repair the torn curtain of time itself)
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It should be noted that Elian stayed with Juan Miguel's family, not his mothers'. This wasn't two branches of the family feuding, this was a free family battling a slave member of the family. I don't blame JMG. We have no idea what threats Fidel made and how many people Fidel threatened to kill.


66 posted on 04/25/2005 8:12:05 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "lol, Good one AD."--gopwinsin04; "Hey, AmishDude, you are right!"-FairOpinion)
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To: Xenalyte

If you would give up all of your family's security, health insurance, retirement, senority etc, to avoid one raid then my dear you aren't half as smart as you seem to want us all to believe.


67 posted on 04/25/2005 8:15:56 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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I don't care what you believe about me. I just know what I believe in and what I can stand for, and what's over the line.


68 posted on 04/25/2005 8:17:01 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I am at Dr. Venture's lab to right that which is wrong and to repair the torn curtain of time itself)
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It simply isn't responsible to give up a lifetime career for one raid.

Those who think it's that easy to walk away are not really thinking it through and putting themselves in the place of those who must provide for their families in the federal law enforcement system.

Say what you will, but I doubt most of you would quit over this either. You would hate it as much as the agents who were there did, but most of you would not throw away such a good job, retirement and benefits.

It's easy to sit at your computer and judge these agents.


69 posted on 04/25/2005 8:27:01 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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To: FairOpinion

can you please add my name to the Cuba Ping list?
Thank you!~


70 posted on 04/25/2005 8:31:03 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: texasflower
Do you think a dismissal would be an easy thing to take for someone who has put in years and has a family and their retirement to consider? Someone who has their federal retirement to consider?

I made no comment about job dismissal being easy or difficult. It was the following point that I was debating:

Just as the military is under the commander in chief and is required to follow orders, so were those agents on the scene that day.

I'm just saying the two are not analagous.

You people who have nothing to risk, sure talk a good line, but if you had the same things to risk as some of those agents did, you might not be so quick to quit or let yourself get fired.

You lost me there. You were speaking of the risk of losing family income and retirement for disobeying a superior. Depending on where they work, I'd guess many FReepers would be risking their career if they disobeyed an order from a superior.

71 posted on 04/25/2005 9:15:31 PM PDT by Ken H
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The officers that were there that day were told they would be there as ordered or fired.

You have no way of knowing that. I should have been more specific.


72 posted on 04/25/2005 10:50:58 PM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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You have no way of knowing that.

I stated in #55 and #71 an assumption that they risked being dismissed.

I don't think anyone has said otherwise.

73 posted on 04/25/2005 11:06:21 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

I meant that in a nice way. I was finding fault with myself by not making that point clearly.


74 posted on 04/26/2005 2:49:21 AM PDT by texasflower ("America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one." President George W. Bush 01/20/05)
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