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Big church halts support of ministries
Charlotte Observer ^ | 4/24/05 | Ken Garfield

Posted on 04/25/2005 7:59:46 AM PDT by NotchJohnson

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To: Protagoras

Only in the way I say I'm in a cult. Take it or leave it, but what is good for you is good for me. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It is a church, not a cult. The true head of our Church is Jesus Christ. We are Christians.

You may not like it, but the fact remains that we are Christians.


501 posted on 04/26/2005 6:35:18 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAID PROTESTANTS AND CATHOLICS WEREN'T.

Forget Christian, you are a hypocrite.

I haven't seen anyone say you weren't Christian.

Now go back and read some more made up nonsense by smittyboy.

502 posted on 04/26/2005 8:14:13 PM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Protagoras

Did you confuse yourself? You certainly are good at twisting words and throwing around baseless accusations.

Are you sure you aren't a shyster lawyer?


503 posted on 04/27/2005 5:10:31 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
Are you sure you aren't a shyster lawyer?

Are you sure your wife has stopped beating you?

To: Protagoras
Yes, I pray often for all you protestants and catholics. I pray that someday you can come to Christ.
100 posted on 04/25/2005 11:50:44 AM CDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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504 posted on 04/27/2005 6:03:25 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Protagoras

Do you have some logical objection to my prayers?


505 posted on 04/27/2005 6:50:31 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
Do you have some logical objection to my prayers?

I have a logical problem with you saying that people who aren't in your group have not come to the savior.

Your prayers (if you said them, which I find unlikely) are a cover for your arrogant, purposeful, childish cheap shot at real Christians.

If you practiced Christianity yourself, you would not have made such an insult and certainly would have prayerfully reconsidered your purposeful insult and withdrawn it or clarified it instead of playing this little childish game.

But truly, I don't care. You came to the thread trolling for comments, and you got them. Oh well.

506 posted on 04/27/2005 7:12:53 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Protagoras

You are saying that praying is a cheap shot?

And you call yourself a Christian?

After all the garbage you have spewed over the last couple of days, I wonder where your heart really is.


507 posted on 04/27/2005 7:36:49 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
You are saying that praying is a cheap shot?

Nope, you made that up. It's called false witness.

And you call yourself a Christian?

You bet I do.

I wonder where your heart really is.

You already said I wasn't a Christian. Why are you wondering now?

508 posted on 04/27/2005 7:49:46 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Protagoras

What you said was:

"Your prayers (if you said them, which I find unlikely) are a cover for your arrogant, purposeful, childish cheap shot at real Christians."

Now you are telling me I made it up. Are you psychotic?


509 posted on 04/27/2005 7:55:39 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
In answer to your question, "You are saying that praying is a cheap shot? What you said was: "Your prayers (if you said them, which I find unlikely) are a cover for your arrogant, purposeful, childish cheap shot at real Christians."

Correct, and it doesn't say prayers are a cheap shot. Not even close. You made that up. Now you have lied twice in a row.

It says your comment that protestants and catholics aren't Christians was a cheap shot. And that you tried to cover it up by SAYING you would pray for them.

Now you are telling me I made it up.

You did.

Are you psychotic?

No, but you are becoming increasingly desperate and crazy in your posts and lies, so you might be.

510 posted on 04/27/2005 8:05:37 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Protagoras

You think I'm crazy? You ought to read your own crap.

Yes, that is what you are posting, total crap.

You are a liar.


511 posted on 04/27/2005 8:17:04 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man

To: Protagoras
Yes, I pray often for all you protestants and catholics. I pray that someday you can come to Christ.



100 posted on 04/25/2005 11:50:44 AM CDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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512 posted on 04/27/2005 8:24:37 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: AppyPappy

"Thank God you aren't like those sinners."

Appy, of course I am a sinner, but this church is beyond. Living in a small town, you know people. There are some nice people who go there, but besides the ones who I prefer to avoid, the pastor is not one who I would want to call my spiritual teacher. I am not comfortable with him for many reasons, chiefly that he speaks against other churches in the area and other denominations.


513 posted on 04/27/2005 9:04:28 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: k2blader

"What if you prefer not to give to charities which you aren't sure *are* Christian, again due to the leading of the Holy Spirit?"

That is your choice, but I thought we were discussing the concept of cooperation rather than who we personally donate to? For my own part, I have no problem donating to charities regardless of if they are religious or not. If a non-religious group is passing out food to needy people or if they have a job program, I have no problem donating what I can. This, providing that I know my efforts are benefitting those intended.
There are churches I am not fond of, particulary one around here. But I still donate clothing on occasion, because it is about helping people, not my disagreements with the pastor or people in his church.


514 posted on 04/27/2005 9:14:04 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: Protagoras
So, what about the bible? Who was Jesus?

The bible was a book written by a bunch of men back in the day. Jesus was a man who lived and died back in the day. I understand that a lot of people believe that there is more significant meaning to both, but I personally don't happen to believe that there is.
515 posted on 04/27/2005 9:17:58 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Protagoras

Nowhere did I say they were not Christians. That is an interpretive remark by you. Wrong interpretation. Typical for a sophmoric person.


516 posted on 04/27/2005 9:23:04 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: k2blader

"I just noticed one of the keywords tacked on to this thread: "War on Catholics". It seems a little strange to me after seeing a thread yesterday on which several Catholics were mercilessly attacking a non-Catholic just because she said she uses the pill and doesn't want children. These Catholics even went so far as to tell her she's not Christian, an action which is clearly against Christ's specific command."

I didn't catch that one, but I recall being the recipient of a lynch mob on one thread where I agreed with the Phillipine government giving financial incentives to families who have fewer children, in an effort to end dire poverty. I suspect these are the same people, because instead of agreeing to disagree, they branded me as Satanic for asserting that couples should have the choice over their family size and for my opinion that people should not have more kids than they or their nation can feed. It took me awhile, but eventually I was called a "feminist" for the sin of sharing my genealogy findings and asserting women today should not have to have baby after baby until they die in childbirth. I don't recall ever throwing names and insults at these nice folks, even after they had, in just about every post.

"I consider folks who would say such things enemies of the Word. Still, I understand I must love them."

Not necessarily enemies of the word, but of the spirit, the kind, loving spirit of Christ.


517 posted on 04/27/2005 9:25:54 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: Protagoras
Not a bit.

Just checking. It seems you took offense to others who disagreed with you.

I would just see it for what it is if you came on a Christian thread and attempted to tell Chirsitians how they should treat each other according to the scriptures.


Are you saying this is a Christian thread? Sorry, I don't buy that premise.
518 posted on 04/27/2005 9:27:07 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
The bible was a book written by a bunch of men back in the day.

Actually, you are incorrect. It's not a book. So much for that.

Jesus was a man who lived and died back in the day. I understand that a lot of people believe that there is more significant meaning to both, but I personally don't happen to believe that there is.

What significance did they think he had and the bible have? Just so we know what you don't happen to agree with.

519 posted on 04/27/2005 9:29:32 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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To: Old Mountain man
Nowhere did I say they were not Christians.

So you contend that people can be Christians if they haven't "come to Christ"?

520 posted on 04/27/2005 9:31:09 AM PDT by Protagoras (Evolution is amazing... I wonder who invented it?)
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