Posted on 04/25/2005 7:49:18 PM PDT by Flavius
"have driven lesser men to madness in the past!"
That explains a lot.....;))
I know and I was purposefully baiting you.....:)
Check out the last lines;
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.
A Robin Redbreast in a Cage
Puts all Heaven in a Rage.
A dove house fill’d with doves and pigeons
Shudders Hell thro’ all its regions.
A Dog starv’d at his Master’s Gate
Predicts the ruin of the State.
A Horse misus’d upon the Road
Calls to Heaven for Human blood.
Each outcry of the hunted Hare
A fiber from the Brain does tear.
He who shall train the Horse to War
Shall never pass the Polar Bar.
The Beggar’s Dog and Widow’s Cat,
Feed them and thou wilt grow fat.
The Gnat that sings his Summer song
Poison gets from Slander’s tongue.
The poison of the Snake and Newt
Is the sweat of Envy’s Foot.
A truth that’s told with bad intent
Beats all the Lies you can invent.
It is right it should be so;
Man was made for Joy and Woe;
And when this we rightly know
Thro’ the World we safely go.
Every Night and every Morn
Some to Misery are Born.
Every Morn and every Night
Some are Born to sweet delight.
Some are Born to sweet delight,
Some are Born to Endless Night.
---That depends on whether our knowledge is (relative to what there is to know) vast or tiny. I'm betting that we don't know nearly as much as we think we do. Scientist are not famous for their humility.
Okay. I'll hope you were just joking. :-)
So, how about you? Do you admit that your position is based on your faith that there is no God, or do you have irrefutable evidence that God does not exist?
There is a difference between forming an opinion and believing that "you have irrefutable evidence that God does not exist." I don't believe in God, but if someone gives me a good enough reason, then I will change my mind. As I said before, I am not religious because religion makes no sense to me. This means two things:
Then you are an agnostic.
An atheist is convinced there is no God, whereas, an agnostic just doesn't know.
I used to be an agnostic. 39 years and I used to think I was a "confirmed agnostic" because I really did not want or feel a need to change my view on the issue.
I agree with you about religions. That is why I am not a member of any religious order, although I am a Christian.
As a Christian, I don't believe I need a church, a pope, or any other human being to deliver my salvation. Jesus said that He would give it to me and I believe Him.
As for how an agnostic gains faith in God, the slippery slope begins when you open your heart to the possibility and start to read the Bible.
Even as a skeptic, it is a slippery slope.
Then you are an agnostic.
An atheist is convinced there is no God, whereas, an agnostic just doesn't know.
I used to be an agnostic. 39 years and I used to think I was a "confirmed agnostic" because I really did not want or feel a need to change my view on the issue.
I agree with you about religions. That is why I am not a member of any religious order, although I am a Christian.
As a Christian, I don't believe I need a church, a pope, or any other human being to deliver my salvation. Jesus said that He would give it to me and I believe Him.
As for how an agnostic gains faith in God, the slippery slope begins when you open your heart to the possibility and start to read the Bible.
Even as a skeptic, it is a slippery slope.
From Dictionary.com (a reliable source):
a·the·ist n.
One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
ag·nos·tic n.
While I can't strongly deny the existence of God or gods, I don't believe there are any divine beings. I would say that it is impossible to know whether there is a God or not, but IMHO, signs point to no.
As for how an agnostic gains faith in God, the slippery slope begins when you open your heart to the possibility and start to read the Bible.
I've read pieces, mainly from the Torah/Old Testament and parts from the New Testament. However, from what I've heard from those trying to convert me, religion doesn't make any sense.
For instance, you believe that Jesus is your sole salvation. Humanity predated Jesus. What is your merciful God doing about those people? I won't put words in your mouth, but some of the answers I've heard to that question were fairly ridiculous.
These data were obtained from the Cassini spacecraft, flying by Titan. The GCMS chemical data from Huygens that landed on the surface still has not yet been released.
I think there's a simple confusion which arises in discussion of the age of the atmosphere and the origin of the methane. That is, the planet itself is overlooked as a source of methane for the atmosphere. I think it's obvious that the methane is primoridal, and when we read about the atmosphere not being primordial, this is meant in strict terms. The atmosphere can be replenished by simple physical processes from methane resident in the planet body.
I have an old SciAm reprint on The Planets, and it has a 1982 article on Titan, and the ideas there seem to hold up very well to the Cassini-Huygens findings. From the article: "Twenty years ago Stanley L. Miller of the University of California at San Diego predicted that the icy moons of Saturn should include methane hydrate (CH4.7H2O), that is, methane trapped in water ice."
Thus my answer: Not by your silly illogic, no.
Silly boy -- my "silly illogic" was merely to take you at your word.
Whatever you say. I really can't be bothered with this stupidity any further.
LOL!
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