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Microsoft to add 'black box' to Windows
CNet.News.com ^ | 4/26/2005 | Ina Fried

Posted on 04/26/2005 8:35:51 AM PDT by Mike Bates

SEATTLE--In a move that could rankle privacy advocates, Microsoft said Monday that it is adding the PC equivalent of a flight data recorder to the next version of Windows, in an effort to better understand and prevent computer crashes.

The tool will build on the existing Watson error-reporting tool in Windows but will provide Microsoft with much deeper information, including what programs were running at the time of the error and even the contents of documents that were being created. Businesses will also choose whether they want their own technology managers to receive such data when an employee's machine crashes.

"Think of it as a flight data recorder, so that any time there's a problem, that 'black box' is there helping us work together and diagnose what's going on," Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates said during a speech at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference here.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: crashes; gates; lowqualitycrap; privacy; recorder; wankers; windows
A black box to go with the blue screen.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

1 posted on 04/26/2005 8:35:58 AM PDT by Mike Bates
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To: ShadowAce

ping


2 posted on 04/26/2005 8:38:18 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: Mike Bates
Gee, only 3 years after the Macintosh Crash Reporter.
Microsoft is getting faster.
3 posted on 04/26/2005 8:39:45 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

4 posted on 04/26/2005 8:41:54 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Mike Bates

So are the same freepers who whine about Google "monitoring" you going to stop using future M$ releases now?


5 posted on 04/26/2005 8:44:33 AM PDT by Brian328i
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To: Brian328i

Are there FReepers who whine? Tell me it isn't so!


6 posted on 04/26/2005 8:46:14 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

That'll go over like flatulence in a place of worship.


7 posted on 04/26/2005 8:46:49 AM PDT by wolfpat (dum vivimus, vivamus)
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To: Mike Bates

A black box for post-mortem analysis, LOL?


8 posted on 04/26/2005 8:47:39 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Brian328i

two words "RED HAT"


9 posted on 04/26/2005 8:48:35 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: wolfpat

Or, that will go over like a pregnant pole vaulter.


10 posted on 04/26/2005 8:49:12 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: CheneyChick

Or a do it yourself lobotomy kit.


11 posted on 04/26/2005 8:55:33 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: sopwith

One word ... SUSE !


12 posted on 04/26/2005 9:13:27 AM PDT by dartuser (Many people think that questioning Darwinian evolution must be equivalent to espousing creationism.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Gee, only 3 years after the Macintosh Crash Reporter. Microsoft is getting faster.

Macs don't crash, remember?

13 posted on 04/26/2005 9:27:17 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God We Trust. All Others We Monitor.)
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To: Mike Bates

It will take some 15 year old geek about 1/2 an hour to create a program that will disable the "black box".


14 posted on 04/26/2005 9:29:24 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Macs don't crash, remember?

The system doesn't crash, but some apps do. Microsoft software is no better on OS X than on Windows in that regard.
They generally don't anymore, that's why the Crash Reporter was a good idea.

15 posted on 04/26/2005 9:33:42 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Mike Bates
If done properly, this is a very good idea. I have done my share of software testing and having a repository of bug reports is an incredibly handy tool. I am very surprised Microsoft didn't do this a long time ago.

As for the privacy concerns, Microsoft can't even build a reliable O/S, why should I think they can build a reliable database of customers? Non-issue as far as I am concerned. For those really concerned, just have it as an opt-in feature where those who enable it get some kind of bonus features.

16 posted on 04/26/2005 9:34:02 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: COEXERJ145

Maybe less if he doesn't have MTV turned on.


17 posted on 04/26/2005 9:34:35 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates
"Businesses will also choose whether they want their own technology managers to receive such data when an employee's machine crashes."

Uh huh.

Error message:
STOP: c0000218 {Registry File Failure} The registry cannot load the hive (file): \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SOFTWARE when user robertpaulsen attempted to connect to hotnakedteencheerleaders.com

18 posted on 04/26/2005 9:46:51 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Mike Bates
Why in the world would Microsoft need to know the contents of documents and email to prevent crashes? Gates has lost his mind. If business wants this they can install a standalone program and if Microsoft is that concerned about it they can offer that program for free.
19 posted on 04/26/2005 9:48:54 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: robertpaulsen

Tell the tech manager you just look at that site for the articles.


20 posted on 04/26/2005 9:51:01 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: jordan8
Why in the world would Microsoft need to know the contents of documents and email. . .

Inquiring minds want to know.

21 posted on 04/26/2005 9:51:54 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Gee, only 3 years after the Macintosh Crash Reporter.
Microsoft is getting faster.

Actually, if you knew what you were talking about you'd know that Watson has been used in Windows since 3.1x.

They're just expanding it.

22 posted on 04/26/2005 9:57:18 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (“I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses" Patrick Swazey)
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To: Brian328i
So are the same freepers who whine about Google "monitoring" you going to stop using future M$ releases now?

YES!! Actually I stopped using Microsoft software about 4 years ago. I've been far more productive ever since.

23 posted on 04/26/2005 10:01:13 AM PDT by usapatriot28
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To: sopwith
two words "RED HAT"

No! One word: "SLACKWARE"


24 posted on 04/26/2005 10:19:32 AM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: Mike Bates
Just another nail in the coffin of privacy.

If you want to see what MSFT is compiling now about you already, go to "Advanced settings" on Spybot and turn on "usage tracks".

Quite unbelievable.
25 posted on 04/26/2005 10:23:52 AM PDT by oldcomputerguy
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To: Mike Bates; Peanut Gallery

26 posted on 04/26/2005 10:24:21 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (C: May the Force be with you. P: And also with you.)
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To: Mike Bates

Is this more than Windows XP does today? When a program crashes in XP it asks you if you want to send a report to MS. If the OS blue screens, it creates a huge dump file.


27 posted on 04/26/2005 10:29:00 AM PDT by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: IamConservative

Don't know that what is currently created includes the actual docs on which you may have been working. Then again, I usually use a hammer to fix my machine when it acts up.


28 posted on 04/26/2005 10:31:19 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: rdb3
No words: BSD! :-)

No! One word: "SLACKWARE"

29 posted on 04/26/2005 11:15:38 AM PDT by Salo
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To: Salo
Okay, you little devil!


30 posted on 04/26/2005 11:18:13 AM PDT by rdb3 (To the world, you're one person. To one person, you may be the world.)
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To: robertpaulsen
STOP: c0000218 {Registry File Failure} The registry cannot load the hive (file): \SystemRoot\System32\Config\SOFTWARE when user robertpaulsen attempted to connect to hotnakedteencheerleaders.com

Is this cut-and-paste, or prophecy? ;-P

31 posted on 04/26/2005 11:31:38 AM PDT by MortMan (Quiet reflection does not involve a mirror.)
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To: Mike Bates

Wow, an emailed core dump.


32 posted on 04/26/2005 11:47:48 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CheneyChick
Or, that will go over like a pregnant pole vaulter.

I thought that was how you GOT pregnant!

33 posted on 04/26/2005 4:16:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Mike Bates
Or a do it yourself lobotomy kit.

Personally, I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

34 posted on 04/26/2005 4:17:29 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: jordan8
Why in the world would Microsoft need to know the contents of documents and email to prevent crashes?

Well, Gates WAS a big Toon supporter, he whose administration tried (unsucessfully, thank God) to bring the Clipper chip to a PC [very] near you.

35 posted on 04/26/2005 4:20:30 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Mike Bates

Go ahead build your black effing box. I won't be using whatever OS it's part of.


36 posted on 04/26/2005 4:22:10 PM PDT by dennisw (takemetotheriver dropmeinthewater)
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To: Mike Bates

Microsoft should equip their computers with reusable airbags.


37 posted on 04/26/2005 5:00:05 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: killjoy

I think the fact that Gates has taken a marginal product and made it the dominant OS, destroying or absorbing many other companies, that he's proven he's very good at anything that will make him money.


38 posted on 04/26/2005 5:05:10 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (It was a joke. You know, humor. Like the funny kind. Only different.)
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To: Richard Kimball

Actually Gates is very lucky. He hit the equivalent of the lottery twice in his business dealings. In each instance he tried to give the store away and was refused by those with even less intelligence or possibly foresight.


39 posted on 04/26/2005 5:17:41 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Richard Kimball
I think the fact that Gates has taken a marginal product and made it the dominant OS, destroying or absorbing many other companies, that he's proven he's very good at anything that will make him money.

Microsoft is filled with brilliant people. Unfortunately, they are not the ones writing code.

40 posted on 04/26/2005 7:03:05 PM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: CheneyChick

ROTFLMAO

Splat!


41 posted on 04/27/2005 2:54:09 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423)
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