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Democrats Stage Rally for Social Security (Caption the QUEEN!)
Yahoo News ^ | 4/26/05 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 04/26/2005 2:56:41 PM PDT by Libloather

Democrats Stage Rally for Social Security
30 minutes ago
By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent

WASHINGTON - From the buttoned-down confines of a Senate hearing room to a boisterous outdoor rally nearby, Democrats took on President Bush and his Social Security proposals with gusto on Tuesday and rebuffed pleas for bipartisanship from frustrated Republicans.

"If he's going out to push for privatization, let's help him pack," Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois said to cheers from a sun-splashed crowd on the lawn across the street from the Capitol. He was ridiculing Bush's heavily publicized 60-day tour to build support for his proposals.

"Personal accounts unravels the Social Security safety net in a way that makes it hard to find common ground," said Sen. Ron Wyden (news, bio, voting record) of Oregon, one of several Democrats who criticized the president's recommendations at a lengthy Senate Finance Committee hearing.

The Republicans didn't just sit and take it.

"Those of you that are bad-mouthing every other suggestion out there, suggest your own plans," Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley (news, bio, voting record), the normally mild-mannered committee chairman erupted at one point during the hearing. "Doing nothing is not an option, because doing nothing is a cut in benefits," he added. "Grandpa Grassley gets Social Security, but my granddaughter, when she retires 56 years from now, if we do nothing, is going to get this cut that you're talking about."

Taken together, the hearing and the rally underscored the hardening of partisan differences in the three months since Bush called on Congress to enact solvency legislation that included an option for younger workers to invest part of their payroll taxes on their own.

The president was in Galveston, Texas, during the day, the latest in a string of appearances designed to build support for his plan. His cross-country campaign neared an end as a Washington Post-ABC News poll showed public support had declined for his plan for personal accounts.

Against that backdrop, Bush's top political aide, Karl Rove, journeyed to the Capitol for a meeting with GOP senators that one participant said included a discussion of Social Security. The White House and Bush's Republican allies in Congress have been struggling for weeks to advance legislation that meets the two goals Bush has stated — placing the program on a stable financial footing while creating the voluntary personal accounts for younger workers.

His proposal, which Democrats unvaryingly refer to as privatization, envisions deep cuts in guaranteed benefits for future retirees.

House Republicans, confronting solid Democratic opposition and fearing a political backlash in 2006, have made it clear they want the Senate to move first on legislation that would make major changes in Social Security.

But efforts to do so are hampered by the same Democratic opposition and by skittishness among several members of the GOP's own rank and file. After weeks of insisting that any legislation would have to be bipartisan, Grassley said recently he might try to craft a measure that had only Republican support.

Even that may prove difficult, given the breakdown of votes on the committee, although he said after the day's session he remained determined to try.

"We need to start somewhere and we don't need to have unanimity among Republicans to start," said Sen. Craig Thomas (news, bio, voting record) of Wyoming, one of 10 Republicans on the panel, which has eight Democrats.

Grassley gaveled the meeting to order with a reference to the rally that Bush's opponents organized for later in the day.

"Outside the hearing room today, we have political theater and dramatic attempts to polarize Social Security along partisan lines," he said.

"I ask my fellow committee members to resist the temptation to allow such theatrics to pervade this hearing room. If there is ever going to be a bipartisan consensus for reform, the process must begin in this committee, and there's no time like the present to get started."

Sen. Max Baucus (news, bio, voting record), D-Mont., responded moments later by agreeing changes were needed to assure that Social Security can pay full promised benefits after 2052. "But we do not need to privatize Social Security to save it," he said.

Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., who lost to Bush in the 2004 election, said it was the president who had failed to put a plan on the table. Referring to a proposal he made during his bid for the White House, Kerry called for repealing Bush-era tax cuts for the nation's top wage-earners to help shore up Social Security's finances.

"We're going to do something," he said of the need to address Social Security funding difficulties. "We're not going to do nothing."

Grassley called the hearing in an attempt to review competing proposals that would make Social Security permanently solvent. Three of the alternatives call for personal accounts, while a fourth does not.

For much of the hearing, though, the witnesses played the role of foils for senators seeking to elicit information favorable to their own views. Democrats prodded one witness to verify that a plan similar to Bush's would result in large new federal borrowing. Republicans called on another witness to affirm that without changes, Social Security would not be able to pay full benefits beginning at mid-century.


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KEYWORDS: caption; clinton; democrats; hillary; queen; rally; rats; security; social; socialsecurity; stage
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Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., joins a rally against the privatization of Social Security, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, April 26, 2005, in Washington. Man on the right is James Roosevelt Jr. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)
1 posted on 04/26/2005 2:56:55 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

She's got the Mao suit look down.


2 posted on 04/26/2005 2:58:32 PM PDT by hang 'em ("You can't buy the People unless yer for the People" - William Jefferson Clinton)
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To: MurryMom

You better get another job - I'm gonna want more than my fair share of gubmint handouts. All I need is a few strong backs to donate to my retirement accounts. RATS will do nicely...


3 posted on 04/26/2005 2:59:20 PM PDT by Libloather (Start Hillary's recount now - just to get it out of the way...)
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To: hang 'em

I was thinkin Fidel


4 posted on 04/26/2005 2:59:41 PM PDT by Minnesoootan
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To: Libloather

If I were in the army, I'd ask her not to wear that color.


5 posted on 04/26/2005 3:00:10 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Libloather

Kim Jon Il has bad hair day.


6 posted on 04/26/2005 3:00:15 PM PDT by colette (Liberalism has no brakes)
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To: hang 'em

My VERY First thought!


7 posted on 04/26/2005 3:00:53 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Minnesoootan; hang 'em
Reminds me of something Linc from The Mod Squad might wear.

Solid.

8 posted on 04/26/2005 3:01:17 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Libloather
Title should read "Democrats Rally for Bankrupcy" because SS is a ponzi scheme and there's no money in the lockbox. Aren't these people capable of FIXING anything? Always tearing people, policies and programs down without offering a workable alternative.

As responsible as teenagers.

9 posted on 04/26/2005 3:05:58 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Libloather

GOOD for Grassley. Nice to start seeing Spine start to contagiously flow amongst the Republican Senators. Fire it right back at them and show NO mercy.


10 posted on 04/26/2005 3:06:14 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Libloather

11 posted on 04/26/2005 3:07:25 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: itsamelman

Who would have known?


12 posted on 04/26/2005 3:09:28 PM PDT by catpuppy
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To: Libloather
"Hi everybody! I am a rug-munching dyke bitch"
(sorry, I am not feeling very clever today)
13 posted on 04/26/2005 3:10:16 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be attainable"- Albert Einstein)
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To: itsamelman

So that's why she looks so ronery.


14 posted on 04/26/2005 3:11:33 PM PDT by Redcloak (But what do I know? I'm just a right-wing nut in his PJs whackin' on a keyboard..)
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To: colette

bingo. ping to #11.


15 posted on 04/26/2005 3:11:33 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: Libloather

16 posted on 04/26/2005 3:14:46 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: itsamelman

It's like Kim Jong Il dyed his hair, and lost some weight! Scary.


17 posted on 04/26/2005 3:15:43 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (DUmmies in mourning. World is a better place.)
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To: Libloather

Congress unabatedly continuing to spend the Social Security surplus while investing NONE of it is the real risky scheme.

"Do you want your Social Security turned over to those on Wall Street?"

YES! Anyone but Congress!


18 posted on 04/26/2005 3:18:29 PM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Libloather

19 posted on 04/26/2005 3:22:04 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: Roots; dschemmer

Check out this picture of Hillary with a picture of Kim Jong Il.


20 posted on 04/26/2005 3:22:56 PM PDT by Simmy2.5 (DUmmies in mourning. World is a better place.)
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To: itsamelman

Reminds me of that Saturday night live skit, Pat. Is Pat a girl or a boy? I can`t tell in both pictures.


21 posted on 04/26/2005 3:29:14 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver (ALL YOU BASE ARE BELONG TO US)
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To: Libloather
This was the headline for the same AP story in today's Minneapolis Star & Sickle:

"Democrats eagerly take on Bush over Social Security"

And while I do my best not to be a nattering nabob, have you noticed which party has no difficulty whatsoever showing its gonads (including, ahem, Hillary), and which party couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag?

Sorry...but I'm not encouraged.

Rush's recent comments notwithstanding, the libs are still in charge.

22 posted on 04/26/2005 3:37:05 PM PDT by daler
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Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., waves to the crowd as he joins a rally against the privatization of Social Security, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, April 26, 2005, in Washington. Man on the right is James Roosevelt Jr. From the buttoned-down confines of a Senate hearing room to a boisterous outdoor rally nearby, Democrats took on President Bush and his Social Security proposals with gusto on Tuesday and rebuffed pleas for bipartisanship from frustrated Republicans. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)


Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., joins a rally against the privatization of Social Security, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, April 26, 2005, in Washington. Man on the right is James Roosevelt Jr. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)


Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., joins a rally against the privatization of Social Security, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, April 26, 2005, in Washington. Man on the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)


Sen. Mark L. Pryor, D-Ark., joins a rally against the privatization of Social Security, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, April 26, 2005, in Washington. Man on the right is James Roosevelt Jr. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)


A man uses a protest sign to shield himself from the sun during a rally on Capitol Hill held to protest President George W. Bush's plan to privatize Social Security, April 26, 2005. A U.S. Senate panel today showed no sign of being able to bridge sharp partisan differences over President Bush's plan to create individual investment accounts out of the Social Security retirement program. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque


A man talks standing behind a placard talks on his cell phone during a rally on Capitol Hill held to protest President Bush's plan to privatize Social Security, April 26, 2005. A U.S. Senate panel today showed no sign of being able to bridge sharp partisan differences over President George W. Bush's plan to create individual investment accounts out of the Social Security retirement program. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque


From left, Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD), Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL), Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid join hands onstage as they are cheered by supporters at a rally on Capitol Hill against the privatization of Social Security April 26, 2005. A U.S. Senate panel today showed no sign of being able to bridge sharp partisan differences over President Bush's plan to create individual investment accounts out of the Social Security retirement program. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque


Grandson of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, James Roosevelt Jr., gives his applause welcoming Democratic lawmakers joining a rally against the privatization of Social Security, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, April 26, 2005, in Washington. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)


Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid join hands onstage as they cheered by supporters at a rally on Capitol Hill against the privatization of Social Security April 26, 2005. A U.S. Senate panel today showed no sign of being able to bridge sharp partisan differences over President Bush's plan to create individual investment accounts out of the Social Security retirement program. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque


Gladys Mitchell, 80, right, from Washington, and Louise Hobbs, 71, left, from New York, N.Y. join a rally against the privatization of Social Security, on Capitol Hill, Tuesday, April 26, 2005, in Washington. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ceneta)


Jeff Slade, 25, left, and Henry Horne Jr., right, share their views on President Bush's Social Security plan in Galveston, Texas, Tuesday, April 26, 2005. More than 100 people demonstrated outside President Bush's roundtable discussion of his plan to reform Social Security, some to oppose the plan and others, they said, to help Bush set the record straight. (AP Photo/ Carlos Javier Sanchez)

23 posted on 04/26/2005 3:37:41 PM PDT by Libloather (Start Hillary's recount now - just to get it out of the way...)
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To: Blurblogger

That looks like a cigar on her nose. Bill musta been copying what he saw her doing with it when he and Monica.....

Well, you know the rest.


24 posted on 04/26/2005 3:39:09 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Libloather
At least, most of her "Royal Highness'" office showed up for the "rally".
25 posted on 04/26/2005 3:44:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Libloather

What a bunch of LUNATICS!

"It's not wise to privatize".

I bet the woman doesn't even know why she is there. Neither do the so-called leaders. It's just that they are against anything Pres. Bush is for. We wouldn't want the "American People" to have the same choice as our "leaders" now would we?! I guess they are only pro-choice when it comes to abortion.


27 posted on 04/26/2005 3:49:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: itsamelman

I'm so glad you in the press are for us and against those fanatical christian right-wing extremists

/SARCASM OFF

28 posted on 04/26/2005 3:52:44 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: coosamtn

That's not even funny!! You know it's a larger suit and the angle of the sun is hiding her caboose.


29 posted on 04/26/2005 3:53:54 PM PDT by rabidralph (My truck appreciates the rest of you driving fuel-efficient vehicles.)
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To: Libloather

It appears to me that there's really not many people there. This a publicity stunt aimed for the mainstream media.


30 posted on 04/26/2005 3:56:05 PM PDT by 38special (What a bunch of fools!)
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To: Libloather

31 posted on 04/26/2005 3:56:19 PM PDT by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: 38special
It appears to me that there's really not many people there. This a publicity stunt aimed for the mainstream media.

Office staff and family members and the OLD MEDIA "reports" it as if it's news.

32 posted on 04/26/2005 3:59:03 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: coosamtn
Looks like the witch has lost A LOT of weight! AIDS?

Probably creative, digital photography and a couple of sunglassed goons in the room, when the final photos were "approved" for release.

She can lose weight, but the evil runs to the bone.

33 posted on 04/26/2005 4:06:45 PM PDT by digger48
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To: sr4402

Alan Alda in drag.


34 posted on 04/26/2005 4:09:18 PM PDT by 7.63Broom (The Left- Poison for America's Soul)
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To: 38special
It appears to me that there's really not many people there. This a publicity stunt aimed for the mainstream media.

It's the usual "rent-a-mob" losers that go to all of these rallies. They had to get back to their "Free Mumia" marches right afterwards.

35 posted on 04/26/2005 4:12:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Minutemen: Just doing the jobs that American politicians won't do.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
If you or I started such a retirement scheme, we'd be arrested for fraud. The gov't gets away with it.

ol' hoghead

36 posted on 04/26/2005 4:21:44 PM PDT by ol' hoghead
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To: Libloather

Interesting that the reporter didn't mention labor union one damned time in the story, when it was obvious that virtually all of the attendees belonged to unions.

Had he asked around, he might have found that they were being paid to attend.


37 posted on 04/26/2005 4:24:47 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Libloather
Republicans called on another witness to affirm that without changes, Social Security would not be able to pay full benefits beginning at mid-century.

Mid century????? Social Security will not be able to pay full benefits beginning in about 2017 without a massive infusion of tax dollars or borrowing from the public. Remember the non-existent "Trust Fund"? It's empty.

And for anyone who thinks that raising taxes or raising caps on income subject to FICA, they would only pour more money into the "Trust Fund" to be borrowed and spent and then repaid one more time by the taxpayers.

38 posted on 04/26/2005 4:29:31 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Brett66
Ted Kennedy stole Mary Jo Kopechne's Social Security check.

39 posted on 04/26/2005 4:32:35 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Wolverine

Yeah! Now that you mention it, there's a picture of Ted Kennedy! Where is the obligatory picture of an oldsmoblie or Mary Jo's forever young photo?


41 posted on 04/26/2005 4:52:26 PM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Libloather

Didn't Hitler have a nice brown leather coat like that for touring in his car? ;p


42 posted on 04/26/2005 4:54:40 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: Libloather
It's a PONZI PARTY!
43 posted on 04/26/2005 4:59:35 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (The MRS wanted to go to an expensive place to eat so I took her to the gas station.)
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To: Libloather

You young whippersnapper! I'll punch you in the nose and take 12.4% of your wallet.

44 posted on 04/26/2005 5:11:50 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: Libloather

45 posted on 04/26/2005 5:25:00 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (It takes all kinds of critters...to make Farmer Vincents fritters)
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To: Libloather

No more intergenerational Ponzi schemes, thank you very much.


46 posted on 04/26/2005 5:25:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Blurblogger

Good L-rd. She really is wearing the Chairman Mao suit.


47 posted on 04/26/2005 5:26:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: Simmy2.5
It's like Kim Jong Il dyed his hair, and lost some weight! Scary.

Not so much a loss of weight, perhaps more of a shift of weight from "gut to butt".

48 posted on 04/26/2005 5:29:33 PM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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To: Libloather


Which side will be alive to see Social Security fail?
49 posted on 04/26/2005 5:44:12 PM PDT by Roots (www.GOPatUCR.com)
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To: Libloather

Oh look, Hillary in her favorite chairman Mao coat. How quaint.

(arf)


50 posted on 04/26/2005 5:47:41 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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