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For the GOP--a warning
GOPUSA ^ | April 25, 2005 | Vincent Fiore

Posted on 04/26/2005 4:19:34 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee

For The GOP, A Warning By Vincent Fiore April 25, 2005

These days, it's hard to tell just who the majority party in Washington really is. But according to the last several national elections, Republicans have won the House, the Senate, and the presidency. As Bush begins his second term with increased majorities in both House and Senate chambers, it seems that the more power Republicans garner via the voters, the less resolve and political courage they display.

If you believe you sense the beginnings of a commentary that may be less than complimentary to the GOP, trust your instincts--you are right. This space is usually filled with anything but hyperventilating rants, as I leave the more exercised and vituperative prose for the posses of the Bush-hating left.

But even dormant volcanoes erupt once in a great while, and normally ground-in-fact writers can otherwise show the occasional adverse effects of frustration.

As Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to move ever-so-stealthily to the right on most every issue that is of consequence, Republicans cannot seem to find their proper voice on nearly anything.

Not just Hillary--though she stands out for the obvious reason of her future presidential run in 2008--but the entire Democratic Party. Like Hillary, the Democratic Party has acted like something they're not, and that is the majority party in Washington.

Sure, Democrats cannot muster the votes to pass their own legislation, but they do a more than credible job on blocking President Bush's agenda. Some of the success of Democrats can be chalked up to incidental events, like the always-helpful op-ed pages of the mainstream media, along with high gasoline prices and low stock market performances.

But the primary reason for the Democratic Party's success to date is its ability to adhere to partisan discipline and unity, and the GOP's unwillingness to engage them as a majority party.

Early successes aside, like the class action tort reform bill and the more recent Bankruptcy Reform Act of 2005, the Republican-led Congress has had one oar in the water most of the time.

From the alleged wrong-doing of House majority leader Tom Delay, to the botched job of touting Social Security reform, to the breathtaking lack of clamorous support for United Nations nominee John Bolton, Republicans--as a party--have not done nearly enough to refute liberal propaganda and obstructionists actions.

Republicans in Congress have done a wretched job at protecting and supporting the president with regard to Social Security reform. Senate members have been capricious in their support and strategy in changing Senate rules in answer to the Democrats' unprecedented filibustering of ten Bush nominees to the Circuit Courts.

Equally at fault in this widening gap of leadership is President Bush himself. Though the vast majority of Americans want illegal immigration stopped--even to the extent of closing the borders--Bush has developed a political tin-ear on the issue. Democratic Senators Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer are now outflanking him by calling for tougher border protection.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; gop
We the People control the government, we need to hold ALL accountable to do what we put them in office to do. We should put the pressure on our officials to do what needs to be done...to work with the Republican House and Senate and stop blocking issues and causing problems. If you are sick of it, start writing your leaders.
1 posted on 04/26/2005 4:19:36 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
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To: FeeinTennessee

The republicans basically MAKE ME SICK!


2 posted on 04/26/2005 4:21:30 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( Theresa Marie SCHINDLER - We will NEVER FORGET! - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

The Republican'ts just take your letters and use them to create fund-raising lists. When Bush comes up with an "exit strategy" for the millions of illegal invaders already here in the U.S. - and follows through on it - then I'll think about talking to them again.


3 posted on 04/26/2005 4:26:46 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Saundra Duffy

Their lack of leadership in the Senate is what is screwing everything up. If we had a Tom DeLay in the Senate, you wouldn't see this butt kissing of the RINO's. You either toe the line or he pulls your committee chairmanships and puts you omn the committee to decide the new color of the hallways in federal buildings.


4 posted on 04/26/2005 4:27:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: FeeinTennessee

I have said it before and I will say it again. The GOP are cowards when it comes to holding these rotten liberals responsible to what they have done to this great country. They think that if they just play nice, that the Democrats will like them. After 40 years of of Demorcats ramming the liberal agenda down our throats, you'd think that the Republicans would have learned a valuable lesson. No matter how much you capitulate and appease liberals, they will still hate you. It's time for the GOP to finally grow a pair, and start breaking some kneecaps. We have a limited amount of time to undo some of the damage that the radical left has done to this country but somehow I just don't think they are up to the task. I hope that I am wrong.


5 posted on 04/26/2005 4:29:16 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Emmett McCarthy

The Republican'ts just take your letters and use them to create fund-raising lists. When Bush comes up with an "exit strategy" for the millions of illegal invaders already here in the U.S. - and follows through on it - then I'll think about talking to them again.


You aren't gonna get anything done by pouting about the situation. Write them, let them hear from you!


6 posted on 04/26/2005 4:40:46 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
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To: JarheadFromFlorida

Unfortunately, you are not wrong. So sad...


7 posted on 04/26/2005 4:46:56 PM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: FeeinTennessee

The Republicans and the Dumocrats are in Bed together! That's the ONLY explaination. They both want to undo the US Constitution but for different reasons.

The Republicans want Cheap Labor and Oil Deals with Mexico!

The Dummos want to and have been replacing the US Constitution with the EU Socialist Constitution. The losers in all of the are the Patriotic American People who have placed their trust in both of these parties.

They have both went into agreements with the UN for the WTO, The Sea Treaty, The Unconstitutional Hate Crimes passed in the US, There are many other's that we are not aware of that's for sure, but we have certainly been paying for it!! They have to try to get us to disarm, they are in great fear, as they should be, of the right of the US Citizen to bear arms. They know what that means and that it will be a great accomplishment when they achieve that goal.

We need to elect under favorite sons and daughters a write in Candidate who we KNOW and who we know will stand up for the US Constitution. This can be done and we the citizenry CAN DO IT!


8 posted on 04/26/2005 4:52:45 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie (Defend the US CONSTITUTION - Locked and Loaded)
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To: FeeinTennessee

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." President 'Teddy' Roosevelt

PS And yes, I voted for him--VERY reluctantly and ONLY because I did not want to have as our "Commander in Chief," someone who had done great harm to us Vietnam Vets as well as being, a "Traitor."

9 posted on 04/26/2005 4:54:30 PM PDT by An American Patriot ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME"-- the opportunity to get the Hell out of here! Bye Bye VT- Hello, VA.)
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To: FeeinTennessee
Page two of the excerpted article:
I can think of no worse a party-dividing issue and majority-killer as that of America's immigration policy, and President Bush's widely perceived "back-door amnesty" for some 11 million illegal aliens in the country today. Discussions on immigration today are akin to discussions on Social Security 20 years ago: Say the wrong thing, and you may experience the fatal effects of the new "third rail" of politics.

Basically though, there is the expectation of "To the victor go the spoils" that most people are fuming over. Republicans have not had this firm a grip on Washington for over 75 years. The country has gone through a mini-realignment of sorts since the GOP captured the House in 1994. The electorate is decidedly more traditional and conservative in its social demeanor.

So it is hard to come to grips with the fact that the Republican Party--from the president on down--has behaved like a majority-in-denial, content to be acknowledged as the premiere power in Washington, but lacking the iron-will and killer instinct of latter-day Democratic majorities that dominated the American political scene for decades.

What do Republicans in Washington say to the millions who volunteered for the Bush/Cheney 2004 election, giving up their days and nights to go door-to-door and make tens of millions of "get to the polls" phone calls, while donating unprecedented millions to the campaign?

Would they say "Well, we tried, but we were cowed into submission by the op-ed pages of the New York Times and the Washington Post"?

Or would they say that the opposition was "Just too tough to overcome, so we decided to moderate our views instead of fighting upon the mandate given us by the voters"?

Republican political palsy and its effect on the party rank and file are as yet unknown. While some are monolithic in their support for a Republican majority in government, others are becoming increasingly alienated with the party's lack of backbone and its political dithering on core issues. By the 2006 midterm elections, things will be clearer, and Republicans may regret their inactions upon these very core issues.

Last November, 122 million people voted or 60.7% of the voting-age public. That is the highest percentage since 1968. Out of this, some 62 million-plus voted for a Republican president, and increased his majorities in both houses of Congress to work with.

If Republicans do not set their sights on what these millions of voters sent them there to do, they will feel the beginnings of their wrath in 2006, and experience the full measure of it in 2008. A warning to the majority party in Washington: Put up or get put out.


10 posted on 04/26/2005 4:57:26 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The problem is that, now they have power, they're scared of losing it. Like seniors -- the older people get the more concerned they become about not getting killed.


11 posted on 04/26/2005 4:58:49 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: FeeinTennessee
I agree with you.

Accountability is necessary.

Writing, however, won't get the job done.

That's right!

We've been writing, letters and checks for TEN YEARS.

What we have to show for it is bigger government, intrusive laws and regulations, massive spending of OUR money, and an arrogant administration that cares more about mexicans than Americans.

we've been had.


I'll vote against these policies before I waste my time sending letters that will continue to be ignored.
12 posted on 04/26/2005 5:00:35 PM PDT by WhiteGuy ("a taxpayer dollar must be spent wisely, or not at all" - GW BUSH </sarcasm>)
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To: upchuck

If Republicans do not set their sights on what these millions of voters sent them there to do, they will feel the beginnings of their wrath in 2006, and experience the full measure of it in 2008. A warning to the majority party in Washington: Put up or get put out.


I read it. And this isn't the solution to the problem....electing democrats. I still am a firm Republican and I still back the President. We put him in office to work for us. True. But we have to continue to hold them to account. Where are all those voters who voted for Bush last year? They should still be busy writing and calling their leaders, the President to make sure that they hear us. I don't want special interests deciding what is best for me. And they are getting the upper hand, we are letting them.


13 posted on 04/26/2005 5:03:41 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
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To: Saundra Duffy

I'm sick of all politicians, including the republicans.


14 posted on 04/26/2005 5:11:05 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: upchuck
The MINOs care more about what the dems and MSM think about them than what conservatives do. I feel the way a black should feel about the democrat party, taken for granted. Check my tagline for how I handled the matter.
15 posted on 04/26/2005 5:17:09 PM PDT by Founding Father (A proud "vigilante." My money goes to support Minutemen, not Republicans.)
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To: JarheadFromFlorida

Yes, and I'm ready to fight, and that doesn't just mean with paper and pen. Outrage upon outrage upon outrage, there will come a point...


16 posted on 04/26/2005 5:21:36 PM PDT by brushcop
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To: FeeinTennessee

It is the whimpishness of the weakest kneeded bunch since the crowd that bailed on Nixon that could send the GOP to its doom in '06 and '08.


17 posted on 04/26/2005 5:24:28 PM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: expatpat

Okaying "not to lose" is wimp politics and doesn't win voters.


18 posted on 04/26/2005 5:24:39 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
They have to try to get us to disarm, they are in great fear, as they should be, of the right of the US Citizen to bear arms.

"But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security."

My hypothetical question is this: Given the sedition laws how could we ever organize to the point of throwing off the government?

19 posted on 04/26/2005 5:27:09 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: FeeinTennessee

I think the Repubs are in a bad situation by having the majorities. There's too much ambassadorship happening, because they don't want to appear too ram-roddy and gloaty by using their majorities to their (supposed) advantage. They're walking a real political tightrope (with which they're hanging themselves.) It's the big boys version of giving every kid a trophy, or of not praising academic success, because it might hurt the others' feelings.


20 posted on 04/26/2005 5:30:00 PM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No, certainly not Freepers.


21 posted on 04/26/2005 5:35:04 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: expatpat

you don't get elected to public office without having 'handles' that are used to control you.

the powers that be, international globalists and money changers have the goods on at least 61 of our Senators. They have the goods on OUR man as well, or he would have pulled the plug on quite a few things per OUR demands.

we are frustrated with the marionette's on the stage, and are ignoring the evidence that they ALL have strings on them.

get out of line, the man comes and takes you away or your daddy, or your daughter, whatever is most precious to you.
the republicans are no more for our sovereignty than are the chicoms. and all of them are dancing to a predetermined tune.

the phony appearance of a democratic republic, without the subservience of the politicians to the will of the founders or the voters is what we have. it LOOKS like we vote to choose, but the outcome varies but little. More government, less freedom, keeping ever less of what we have justly earned.

With most of us paying a taxation level directly or indirectly that FAR exceeds that of serfs in Feudal Europe in the dark ages, it is clear what we are today. Slaves with the appearance of freedom, but no real choices or individual liberty... ALL must be for the good of the commonality... aka socialistic communism... that includes the 'religion as government' crowd too.

It's not that the republicans are becoming dems, or vice versa, it's that they are both controlled by the powers that be. And their debates, fights and struggles in polity are but a cover for the unidirectional ratchet of slavery they are codifying into our laws and ordinances, by the tens of thousands of pages EVERY YEAR.

it's all over but the death camps... aka, our cities under martial law to maintain order, once the fake money runs out.


22 posted on 04/26/2005 5:39:55 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (pass me the unix please.)
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To: FeeinTennessee

I'm a Republican. I used to be a Libertarian, but went back to the GOP to try and change it for the better. I am disgusted with the RINO's in the party and will be raising a lot of he** with my elected officials. I will be asking them all some very embarassing questions in public.

I can and will be putting presure on my representatives. Count on it.


23 posted on 04/26/2005 5:44:00 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Phlap

Do any of you want to see Hillary Clinton elected President? Because if we don't stand up for the party that at least remembers our heritage and our great foundations this country was built upon, we are doomed! I will continue to vote Republican, but I can sure let my lawmakers know what I expect out of them. Including democrats. They need to hear from the American public.


24 posted on 04/26/2005 5:51:00 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee (FIGHT BACK, LET THEM HEAR YOU! Use your talents!)
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To: Archon of the East

Start talking to your neighbor about the things are are bothering you, you will be pleasantly surprised to find there are a lot of people who feel the same as you, maybe even stronger than you! Listen to each other, you will know what to do and when to do what you beleive is best!

If you read of the US Revolutionary war, there are "Fires" here and "Fires" there, but they all had one ting in common. The fight against the British! In this instance it is our own politicians. So I would say probably there will be demonstrations in front of their offices demanding that they do the jobs we sent them to DC to do.

If not, recall and impeachments would be in order. How far the people during the Revolution took things and to what level of animosity was up to those people. We should not have to riot or go to war to get our politicians ear!

The point being, making sure the politicians get the point that we sent them to DC to make laws in the INTEREST of the AMERICAN people. TO listen to their Constituents and vote as the MAJORITY of those Constituents tells them to and to defend and protect the US Constitution. If they won't do the job -- we will send someone there who will!!

This includes the President.


25 posted on 04/26/2005 5:56:45 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie (Defend the US CONSTITUTION - Locked and Loaded)
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To: FeeinTennessee

I'm not pouting. I'm stating the facts as they are. They get your name and address and flood your mailbox and harrass you with phone calls. "We will win this fight with your contribution" and blah, blah. I'm on with the "Not One Dime" folks who say to them, "We've given you the power, now freakin' use it". Abortion, queer marriage, illegal immigration - nothing but fund-raising blurbs for them.


26 posted on 04/26/2005 5:57:20 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Saundra Duffy
The conservatives in America do not have a party to represent their interest.The republican party pandered to the conservative voters to win the election and then they proceeded to move left.At first I thought Michael Savage was blowing hot air when he claimed that president Bush was helping the Clinton's repair their image so Hillary could run for president in 08 but now I think there may be some truth to that claim.The only difference between today's political parties is only the letter in front of the name.It's like one big club where one hand washes the other.
27 posted on 04/26/2005 5:58:03 PM PDT by rdcorso (The Democratic Party Has Become An Abomination)
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To: Trteamer

THANK YOU Trteamer!!! I'm still fighting, everyone else...don't stop either!


28 posted on 04/26/2005 5:58:20 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Emmett,
We still tell them, "We've got our eye on you. If you don't stand for what you said you would fight for...."...that's what you do. But thing is, there are just a few people doing the necessary work. If more of the conservative public would get on the ball and do what's needed like the rest of us, we could make a difference. :)


29 posted on 04/26/2005 6:02:16 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
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To: FeeinTennessee

The GOP just refused to compromise on judges.

I hear national verifiable ID is being left in by the Senate which most people thought it would cut that out.

I do think that the Republicans can be too civil at times.

I also think the issue of illegals is hard to cut off for the Federal government because that could literally cause the collapse of Mexico.
I believe that is why there has been no big movement on illegals.

I do agree that we have to get to more secured borders and no free ride for law breaking illegals though.


30 posted on 04/26/2005 6:03:16 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: FeeinTennessee; Southack; jveritas; All
These days, it's hard to tell just who the majority party in Washington really is. But according to the last several national elections, Republicans have won the House, the Senate, and the presidency. As Bush begins his second term with increased majorities in both House and Senate chambers, it seems that the more power Republicans garner via the voters, the less resolve and political courage they display.

Looks like I'm not the only one who's gotten a burr under his saddle. :o)

I hope the various warnings forwarded to the GOP will make an impact. I really do.

31 posted on 04/26/2005 6:03:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Not Elected Pope Since 4/19/2005.)
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To: rdcorso

I've seen the Bushs' close leanings with the Clintons lately. I am ignoring it. It's all politics. Hillary winning in '08 will only happen if we fall for her lies. I'm focusing on what's more important now, getting conservative judges appointed, etc.


32 posted on 04/26/2005 6:04:59 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
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To: A CA Guy

I agree with you on the illegal immigrant issue. I applaud the minutemen, so proud of them!


33 posted on 04/26/2005 6:06:11 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee
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To: FeeinTennessee

I'm here in Tennessee, too. What runs through my mind when I hear this kind of talk are the lines from an old Billy Joe Shaver song-"I'll believe it when I see it
And I haven't seen it yet.
Don't mind me - just keep on talkin' -
I'm just lookin' for my hat"
I guess appropriately the song title is "Ain't No God in Mexico".


34 posted on 04/26/2005 6:11:08 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: 26lemoncharlie

'..a lot of people feel the same as you..'..'probably there will be demonstrations..'


I would agree that probably many people are unhappy with the behavior of those WE elected. But, sadly, many people seem to be unwilling to 'walk their talk'. How many people showed up in DC at FR's March for Justice?! How many people actually call their Representative....even when they're given a toll free number? Not enough.


35 posted on 04/26/2005 6:27:11 PM PDT by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: FeeinTennessee
[ If you are sick of it, start writing your leaders. ]

Some of us have been SICK since 1986.. "Read my lips no new taxes".. have hoped, prayed, and worked for what we have now..

What we have now makes us even SICKer..
WHY.?. We were MORONS thinking a republican juggernaut would clean house..
WE were WRONG... DON'T EVEN say have some patience..

WARNING: The Party is SICK...
And a LARGE number of republicans are ready to PUKE..

36 posted on 04/26/2005 6:29:00 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
Start talking to your neighbor about the things are are bothering you, you will be pleasantly surprised to find there are a lot of people who feel the same as you, maybe even stronger than you! Listen to each other, you will know what to do and when to do what you beleive is best!

Good advice, the hard part is actually getting them to write, to become active before it gets out of control, but this site has given me hope that the "knickers are still pressed" and ready for duty.

37 posted on 04/26/2005 6:54:32 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: FeeinTennessee
I will continue to vote Republican, but I can sure let my lawmakers know what I expect out of them. Including democrats.

That brings up a point. I live in Colorado, and Ken Salazar is one of my Senators. I never write or call him because he is a democrat. I figure he doesn't represent me. Well, That sob works for ME, and I intend to remind him of that. I will be a thorn in his side!

38 posted on 04/26/2005 7:24:05 PM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: JarheadFromFlorida

Post #5 you totally nailed it.


39 posted on 04/26/2005 7:26:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: FeeinTennessee

You are doing fine. Too many of the posts on this thread sound more like DU than FR.


40 posted on 04/26/2005 8:23:58 PM PDT by expatpat
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