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Moms Make Lousy Dads
IntellectualConservative.com ^ | April 26, 2005 | Burt Prelutsky

Posted on 04/27/2005 10:16:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Fathers are absolutely essential to boys. I spent a summer living at my Grandmother's house when I was 12, because my family was building a new house, and they didn't want I and my sister living in the mess. This was the only time in my life that I got into trouble. Nothing major, of course, but began to get involved with vandalism and the like. When the house was finished, and I came back home, I spent all of the next 6 months right by my dad every minute I was at home. I can't explain exactly why, but dads are so very important to a boy that age.


21 posted on 04/27/2005 10:58:34 AM PDT by SoDak (Hoist That Rag!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I'm a single Dad with a son, who is now 15. Been raising pretty much by myself since he was 4, a lot of help from his Grandma. He seems to be turning out good, ethical and street smart; academics are terrible but improving now. Conversely, I worry a lot about him not having a mother's love and influence in his life.


22 posted on 04/27/2005 11:00:20 AM PDT by CATravelAgent (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Capriole
I'm betting you don't hear this nearly often enough:

I try to be both mother and father to my little son by taking him fishing and camping, teaching him about guns, encouraging him to take risks instead of being like most timid, worried mothers, putting him on horseback, etc.

You are not trying to be a mother and a father; you are succeeding at being an excellent parent. Your son is blessed to have you!

23 posted on 04/27/2005 11:00:44 AM PDT by grellis ("Unless, God forbid, there are two Placentas walking around"--FR demkicker)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
It is a horrible spiral.

Children without fathers ---> Fathers who don't know how to be husbands and fathers ---> Children without fathers.

24 posted on 04/27/2005 11:01:19 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Inasmuch as more and more women are eager to hand off their offspring to a nanny, a granny or a nursery school, you have to wonder why most of them even bother giving birth.

I have never heard a response to this statement that comes close to passing the sniff test.

25 posted on 04/27/2005 11:03:35 AM PDT by grellis ("Unless, God forbid, there are two Placentas walking around"--FR demkicker)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It's not just the sons. Girls need their fathers too.

I have a staunch environmentalist feminist friend from college that adopted a baby girl from South America. The four year-old is now completely undisciplined, as the mother considers herself above "harsh" methods of discipline. Every other book in the house deals with environmentalism, as the mother is trying to turn the daughter into a clone of herself. It's already clear the daughter's personality is very different, so there are probably going to be some huge fights in a decade or so.

If a father was around, there's a good chance he would say "Dear, our daughter doesn't have to like everything you like." The two-parent system forces compromises and is thus a check on an individual's narcisism.

Let's face it: single moms can be very narcissistic when raising daughters. They often view the daughter as an extension of themselves.

Flame away.


26 posted on 04/27/2005 11:09:46 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Doesn't mention the most obvious reason a father is important.

When a boy reaches about 15 it is highly educational for him to be knocked clear across the room for lipping off to his mom.

I know it was for me.


27 posted on 04/27/2005 11:16:55 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I'd say the same is true for daughters. They need their fathers in their lives. If a father isn't possible, a grandfather or uncle who can make a strong commitment to filling the gap as much as possible.

I'd like to strongly recommend the book Always Daddy's Girl by H. Norman Wright: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0830727620 (opens a new window) to men who are fathers of daughters. It's a powerful book.
28 posted on 04/27/2005 11:18:16 AM PDT by UlmoLordOfWaters
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
And just because so many of the morons in Hollywood have turned single motherhood into just another fad, sort of like collagen lips and plastic bosoms, doesn’t make it a good idea.

Looks like one Hollweird single mother, Liz Hurley, after enjoying the child birth and being reported as "radiant" has has second thoughts. Now she thinks single motherhood "sucks." See: http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4441174

29 posted on 04/27/2005 11:22:00 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: kx9088
Each in a different gender form
ABSOLUTELY!
30 posted on 04/27/2005 11:22:08 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Restorer
to be knocked clear across the room ...
In this "politically correct, touchy, feeley world people underestimate the value of a good old fashioned butt kickin'

Cordially,
GE
31 posted on 04/27/2005 11:25:07 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Be careful. Big Brothers and Big Sisters are infested with homosexuals and sexual predators. Think about it, how many adult men (especially married men) have time to spend with someone else's kids?


32 posted on 04/27/2005 11:26:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Our man in washington
No flames here. Kids need two parents in their life.

I think that boys, especially, need a strong male role model. Wife has a number of male friends.....all of them are dysfunctional, liberal, gay, or a combination of the three. In all cases, the father either isn't on the scene, or is a complete limp-handshaking wimp.

Boys need a male role model - or, barring that - a strong female model - in their lives. My hat is off to the single Mom who wasn't afraid to let her kid take chances, shoot guns, etc etc etc. It's the nature of boys to test their limits, and it's much easier to recover from testing them at age 12 or 14, than at 30. :-)

33 posted on 04/27/2005 11:27:29 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Restorer

"When a boy reaches about 15 it is highly educational for him to be knocked clear across the room for lipping off to his mom."

Most execellent "fathering" there, LOL! Our son will be 18 next month, and we've had a few of those moments when he was 15 & 16. I especially loved his, "You're not my Mother!" crack when I was hassling him about the losers he was hanging out with. (I'm his StepMom, but adopted him when he was four. Bio-Mom is in the picture to some extent.)

I told him I was greatly RELIEVED that I wasn't his Mother, and from here on out I wasn't going to bother to feed, clothe or shelter him. I got a nice 'Letter of Appology' within a week. I'm framing it, and presenting it to him when he becomes a Father. (Another DECADE from now, please!)


34 posted on 04/27/2005 11:35:29 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Announcer: In other news, water rolls down hill.

Leftist: That's stereotyping!

Ping to self for later.


35 posted on 04/27/2005 11:40:32 AM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

"Be careful. Big Brothers and Big Sisters are infested with homosexuals and sexual predators."

I guess having been a "Big" myself, I give BB/BS the benefit of the doubt. The screening process for myself, and a few other women I asked to join was gruelling and endless. It was easily 6 months before we got our "littles."

I've never heard of any problems with the Big Brothers in my local area. Some guys just plain LIKE kids, and are looking forward to being Dads themselves one day. My husband (and I, to a great extent) spend a lot of time with our Godson and nieces and nephews, now that our son is nearly out of the nest. It's do-able for men, depending upon what their family situation is.

But, best to be safe when kids are concerned.


36 posted on 04/27/2005 11:40:55 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Our man in washington
You are absolutely correct.

At 14, my daughter forced me out of her life with her mother's encouragement and active participation. I was told at the time that I was the most horrible influence in her life and I should just "do the right thing" and go away. Her mother could barely contain her glee.

Now my daughter is 19, unmarried, unemployed, and pregnant with the father long gone. When my ex called to inform me, she preceeded with "This is all your fault".

Hmmph. Imagine that...

37 posted on 04/27/2005 11:46:49 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: banker
"I'll make the argument that little girls need dads just as badly"

So VERY true! Children of both sexes need parents of both sexes. Period. They learn different and valuable lessons from each. Do you think God a plan? :)

38 posted on 04/27/2005 11:59:39 AM PDT by sageb1
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To: sageb1

oops...had a plan


39 posted on 04/27/2005 12:00:10 PM PDT by sageb1
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To: Capriole

I have the opposite problem. Being the father of two children I try to be a mother as well as a father. It is my hardest job. In fact it's impossible! I just have to manage as best I can. They see their mother fairly regularly but it is not enough.


40 posted on 04/27/2005 1:17:32 PM PDT by protest1
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